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Ben Olson (ben@strategyprep.com) and Nathan Fox (nathan@foxlsat.com) started the Thinking LSAT Podcast to become better LSAT teachers, meet LSAT luminaries, and have some fun. Please 1) subscribe, 2) rate and review us, and 3) send us questions. Don't pay for law school.

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Ben Olson (ben@strategyprep.com) and Nathan Fox (nathan@foxlsat.com) started the Thinking LSAT Podcast to become better LSAT teachers, meet LSAT luminaries, and have some fun. Please 1) subscribe, 2) rate and review us, and 3) send us questions. Don't pay for law school.

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By lbblb3 - May 20 2020
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Solid advice minus any sugar coating. Don’t pay for law school!

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By TheGord - May 04 2020
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This podcast deserves a 5/5 stars! Very good advice from two funny dudes.

iTunes Ratings

612 Ratings
Average Ratings
547
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31

Real talk

By lbblb3 - May 20 2020
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Solid advice minus any sugar coating. Don’t pay for law school!

Amazing!

By TheGord - May 04 2020
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This podcast deserves a 5/5 stars! Very good advice from two funny dudes.
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Thinking LSAT

Latest release on Jul 27, 2020

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Ben Olson (ben@strategyprep.com) and Nathan Fox (nathan@foxlsat.com) started the Thinking LSAT Podcast to become better LSAT teachers, meet LSAT luminaries, and have some fun. Please 1) subscribe, 2) rate and review us, and 3) send us questions. Don't pay for law school.

Rank #1: Episode 70: Big Law Advice from A Recent Graduate

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Ben reads and recommends Alexander Hamilton. The biography by Ron Chernow inspired the recent musical phenomenon and Ben thinks it could also be an inspiration for aspiring lawyers. (5:30) Dreaming of […]

Sep 28 2016

1hr 19mins

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Rank #2: Ep. 154: Getting into law school with Ann Levine

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With all the changes in law school admissions standards over the past year, the guys have received a bunch of questions about putting your best foot forward when applying to […]

Aug 20 2018

1hr 25mins

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Rank #3: Ep. 241: Before You Take the LSAT with Doreen Benyamin

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The guys sit down with Columbia 3L and podcast host, Doreen Benyamin, to talk about what law school is actually like. Benyamin dishes the dirt on what matters in your 1L year, and let’s all y’all know what she wishes she knew before going to law school. Plus, Nathan and Ben help a listener think about how to incorporate their sports career into a personal statement, they consider some advice about how to recreate testing conditions at home, they read a letter from UC Hastings Dean Faigman, and they weigh in on a hypothetical decision between two law schools. Read more on our website!

Apr 13 2020

1hr 24mins

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Rank #4: Episode 97: Last minute advice for the June 2017 LSAT

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00:02:05 – The biggest message is: You’ve either put in the work or not. “The hay is in the barn.” 00:03:36 – Don’t get caught up in “small sample” glitches—it’s […]

Jun 08 2017

1hr 21mins

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Rank #5: Thinking LSAT 35-Minute Timer

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When students write in for self-studying advice, by far the most common piece of advice we give is to take (and thoroughly review) daily 35-minute timed sections. It’s the bread […]

May 22 2018

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Rank #6: Ep. 147: Detailed and Nuanced Reading

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Welcome to July dear listeners. Summertime is in full swing, and if you follow your nose you might just smell the lingering scent of Nathan Fox’s BBQ ribs on the […]

Jul 09 2018

1hr 27mins

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Rank #7: Episode 67: Or Am I…

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Josh planned to retake the LSAT but then received a recommendation from his pre-law advisor not to do so; now Josh is confused about what he should do. We give […]

Aug 20 2016

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Rank #8: Ep. 193: Logic Games Home Runs

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Did you know that if you sort through all of the possible outcomes of any given logic game, it’s likely that you’ll be lookin’ at less than 18 possible outcomes. Not that many, right? And when you know all of the outcomes of a game, chances are you can slay the questions. In this episode, the guys get gnarly with Logic Game 4 from the June 2007 LSAT. They make worlds, they split worlds, and then they split the splits. It gets wild. They also share an email from a law school who wants you to apply to the school so they can give you admissions advice (ummm…insert crying while laughing emoji, pls). Lastly, you’ll hear about the latest from the LSAT Demon, AND you can get a first look at the new Thinking LSAT website. Happy (Logic) gaming!
As always, if you like the show and you want to get more from the Thinking LSAT community, check out the links below. You can connect with other folks studying for the LSAT, and get more useful resources from Nathan and Ben.

Thinking LSAT Facebook Group
Instagram (upcoming events)
LSAT Demon
Strategy Prep
Fox LSAT
Personal Statement Review Package

Important Dates
6/3 – The June LSAT
6/4 – Registration cutoff for the July LSAT (SIGN UP! This puppy is a freebie, and you can cancel your score without penalty AFTER you see how you did…)
6/27 – June scores are released
7/15 – July LSAT

7:17 – Email 1—Alana received a rather amusing and ingenious email from Wash U. Turns out they are writing folks and offering FREE* law-school-admissions advice. Of course, they mention, it sure would be easier to give you said advice if you actually applied to Wash U. so they can review your application documents during the consultation.
The guys half love this slick move by Wash U, but they’re also hearing Admiral Ackbar issuing a warning from the cosmos. On one hand, this move basically starts a negotiation with Wash U. You apply to their school. You get a one on one with their staff so you can feel each other out. Pretty cool so far… But their free advice will probably leave you with some warm and fuzzies about Wash U., increasing your chances of actually attending the school if you get in. On the other hand, whether or not you go to Wash U., you are getting advice from admissions officers who will probably share a valuable perspective on your admissions docs.

We’d love to hear about this experience if any listeners dare to give it a try…

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May 20 2019

1hr 28mins

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Rank #9: Episode 53: How Do You Pace Yourself During the Logical Reasoning Section?

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Nathan finally saw Star Wars: The Force Awakens, and we find the flaws in the film like it’s Question #16 from Section 2 of the June 2007 LSAT. (Spoiler Alert […]

Feb 04 2016

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Rank #10: Episode 88: Let’s Make A Deal

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Unfortunately, Ben just cannot deal! Ads with relentlessly poppy, upbeat, hand-clapping music are making him want to run for the hills. And if the tune features xylophones? Forget about it. […]

Mar 27 2017

1hr 19mins

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Rank #11: Episode 3: Should I cancel my LSAT score?

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Ben and I mildly disagree on whether to bring a watch to test day, then vehemently agree that you should almost never cancel your LSAT score. On the issue of why the test is scaled, not curved, we're equally clueless.  Plus, news from the June 2014 LSAT.

Jun 13 2014

1hr 5mins

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Rank #12: Episode 57: Leveraging Scholarship Offers, When to Start Law School, and Tips for Campus Visits

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After a bad test day and a “questionable” prep guide got him a 147 on the LSAT, Torvald* uses the Thinking LSAT podcast to jump his retake score to a […]

Mar 29 2016

1hr 27mins

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Rank #13: Ep. 141: I turned down Harvard Law School

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The guys jump into a bunch of listener emails and specifically sidestep their usual reports on east- and west-coast weather patterns. Instead, they chat cinema. Fireside style. Nathan talks Deadpool […]

May 29 2018

1hr 21mins

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Rank #14: Ep. 125: Plan Don’t Cram

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Thanks to you, dear listeners, our inbox experienced a wave of new listener mail and the guys get to work answering your LSAT questions. But first, exciting LSAC news! It […]

Feb 06 2018

1hr 23mins

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Rank #15: Ep. 179: Logic Games Fundamentals

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It’s no secret that the Logic Games represent the biggest challenge for most folks who are starting with the LSAT. But the good news? The games are perfectly solvable. That […]

Feb 11 2019

1hr 30mins

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Rank #16: Episode 49: Should a Student Retake the LSAT After Getting a Score of 171?

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One listener has a full-time job, a diagnostic score of 165 and wants to take the June LSAT. She plans to study now, take a break during her busy season at work, and then re-start studying in the spring. Is this a workable study strategy?

Should this listener retake the LSAT after getting a score of 171 on the October test?

A listener from Brazil is studying for the LSAT and has taken five practice tests with scores ranging from 153 to 166. He asks the following questions: Do I have a chance at a scholarship (even with a lower GPA) at a good school? Is a 175 score feasible? Does being an international student make a difference for law school admission?

We also tackle Logical Reasoning question 12 (Section 2) from the June 2007 LSAT.

Got questions you want us to answer in a future podcast? Send us an email!

Thinking LSAT is now on Twitter! Follow us at @thinkinglsat and tweet us a question!

Take a listen and let us know what you think.

Dec 16 2015

1hr 12mins

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Rank #17: Episode 79: Little White Lies and the Diagramming Demon

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Nathan gives five (death)stars to “Rogue One: A Star Wars Story,” while Ben shares a far more lukewarm review of his family’s new dog, a “Mountain Swissy” kind. (0:30) In […]

Dec 31 2016

1hr 11mins

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Rank #18: Ep. 120: Back to the LSAT

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Welcome to 2018, dear listeners. Nathan and Ben ring in the new year by answering a few LSAT questions on air. By popular demand, the guys tackle logical-reasoning and reading-comprehension […]

Jan 02 2018

1hr 27mins

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Rank #19: Ep. 122: Stop statsturbating

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January is in full swing, we’re woefully behind on emails, and Nathan is flexing his Christmas gift to himself: Movie Pass. The guys give a brief review of Star Wars: […]

Jan 16 2018

1hr 27mins

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Rank #20: Episode 78: Think You’re Overthinking? Think Again.

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The guys open Episode 78 by discussing the need to submit a diversity statement with a law school application. Both agree it can be a valuable addition but caution applicants […]

Dec 18 2016

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Ep. 256: The LSAT Paradox

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Speed. Accuracy. Success. Happiness. How do you strike a balance? If you speed through the LSAT, your accuracy may suffer. If you slow down to improve accuracy but never get better at the test, your score will stagnate. If you rush headfirst into law school, you may end up with a mountain of debt in a career that doesn’t meet expectations. In this episode, Nathan and Ben discuss how to use the time to set yourself up for success on the LSAT and beyond. They answer listener questions about aiming for accuracy, how slow is too slow when approaching LR arguments, and whether or not to take a gap year. They also hear from a budding app developer who made an app for checking law-school-app status, and they critique a listener’s personal statement. Read more on our website!

Jul 27 2020

1hr 47mins

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Ep. 255: Law School Transparency with Kyle McEntee

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In this episode, Nathan and Ben sit down with attorney and public policy expert Kyle McEntee to discuss his non-profit, Law School Transparency. The mission of Law School Transparency is to make the process of becoming a lawyer more transparent, affordable, and fair. The guys talk to Kyle about how the law school game has changed over the past decade and explore his data-centric approach to choosing a law school (and a career path once you’re there). Read more on our website!

Jul 20 2020

1hr 23mins

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Ep. 254: Score Preview

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It’s the week of the third-ever LSAT-Flex and now that the summer is in swing, LSAC is dropping announcements left and right. It looks like the LSAT-Flex is here to stay for the summer (at least). But not only that! If it’s your first time taking the test, LSAC announced a major new service that could offer you a big advantage heading into your law school admissions cycle. The guys dish the latest in LSAC news and answer some of your LSAT questions. Nathan and Ben take a look at a last-minute ploy from John Marshall Law School ahead of the fall semester, they hear a horror story about registering for the LSAT Flex, and they hear some advice about prepping for the Flex. Plus, the guys answer an LR question from practice test 65. Read more on our website

Jul 13 2020

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Ep. 253: LSAT-Flex Registration Woes and Hacks

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As the 2020-2021 admissions cycle draws near, many of you may be scrambling to take your LSAT-Flex and get your application packages in line. And you couldn’t have better timing. Applying early and broadly is the best way to nab your best deals for the 2021-2022 school year. To help you in your lawyerly quest, the guys read discuss some ProctorU woes that students have been having, and they also report on some hacks that may help you with registration over the next few months. Nathan and Ben also answer some important questions around when and if you should re-take the test after a disappointing performance, and they read through a rock-solid personal statement that helped earn a bunch of full-ride scholarships. Plus, the guys discuss LGBTQQIA+ diversity statements, tackle an LR question from practice test 65, and more. Read more on our website!

Jul 06 2020

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Ep. 252: The New Law School Admissions Game with Ann Levine

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With the LSAT-Flex and the impact of the new coronavirus, 1L hopefuls and 1Ls in waiting have a lot of questions about attending or applying to law school in the fall. Nathan and Ben sit down with friend of the show and law school expert, Ann Levine, to discuss her latest book and the state of law school admissions in 2020. The guys also talk about converting your LSAT-Flex scores, they hear from a student whose LSAC fee-waiver request was denied, and they answer an LR question from practice test 65. Plus, Nathan and Ben dig into cooperative board games, E-Prime, and they read an LR question drafted by a listener who was inspired by Nathan’s COVID-19 rant. Read more on our website!

Jun 29 2020

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Ep. 251: The Tip Of The Spear

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As the summer gets going and the pandemic wears on, it seems likely that more LSAT-Flex tests will be scheduled. And there are some pretty important things you should know when heading into a remote testing environment. The guys kick off the show with some helpful LSAT-Flex public service announcements to make sure you’re set up for success (and comfort) on the day of your test. Nathan and Ben also discuss how a global pandemic is affecting admissions cycles, they tackle an LR question from prep test 65, and they answer a question from a high school senior about when to start prepping for the LSAT. Plus, the guys hear a success story from a past listener, and they read another email from Dean Faigman of UC Hastings. Read more on our website!

Jun 22 2020

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Ep. 250: LSAT Tips of a Certain Nature

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From fan art to cannon fire, Ben and Nathan kick off the summer—and their 250th episode—with a bang. The guys talk about the benefits of showing up week after week and some of the challenges they faced in creating the show and their businesses along the way. Then they hit the ground running with some news about the LSAT-Flex. They also consider some good ol’ fashioned LSAT advice coming out of Florida Coastal School of Law, they hear from a listener who got inspired by a previous episode, and they chop up another listener’s personal statement. Plus, Nathan and Ben dive into an LR question from practice test 65. Read more on our website!

Jun 15 2020

1hr 42mins

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Ep. 249: June LSAT Grab Bag

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The summer is starting to heat up and the resulting weather is causing Ben to remove trees from his property. The guys talk about Ben’s “death trap” backyard and then dive into LSAT current events. They talk about the upcoming LSAT-Flex in June, July, and probably August, and they take a look at how the test dates differ from previous administrations of the test. They also let you know how you can get a free night in a hotel via LSAC. Plus, the guys hear from a peaceful protester who wants to know if their activism will affect their chances of becoming a lawyer, they judge a listener’s strategy for when they’re down to the wire in an RC section, they answer an LR question from practice test 65 and more. Read more on our website!

Jun 08 2020

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Ep. 248: Rising 2L, Sarah Ashworth

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School’s out for summer. And that means 1Ls are now officially 2Ls—and many of them just bypass/fail grades, due to the coronavirus pandemic. Friend of the show and Thinking LSAT ex-producer, Sarah Ashworth, drops by to discuss her 1L experience with Nathan and Ben. Sarah shares how her first year of law school met her expectations and what she’s looking forward to as she heads into her 2L year. Then she sticks around to discuss LSAC news and LSAT advice with the guys. They cover what to do if you’re stuck in a particular score range, how to handle Character and Fitness inquiries, and they join forces like a gd LSAT Voltron to unlock LG 3 from practice test 65. Read more on our website!

Jun 01 2020

1hr 38mins

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Ep. 247: Tales from the LSAT-Flex

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This month, students across the US sat for the first-ever LSAT-Flex. And you didn’t need a crystal ball to predict that there would be some hiccups in the rollout. The guys hear some LSAT-Flex horror stories and share how LSAT responded to criticism of the LSAT-Flex. Nathan and Ben also offer up some advice about Rule Substitution questions in the Logic Games and talk about how you can get those RC passages to stick so you don’t need to constantly reread them when you’re working through the questions. Plus, the guys try to help an LSAT tutor who’s getting fed up with “lazy” students. Read more on our website!

May 25 2020

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Ep. 246: Bar Prep with Daniel Schweitzer

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Studying for the LSAT, getting your application together, and grinding it out for three years in law school all lead to one final hurdle: the bar exam. The test that stands between you and a career practicing law. The guys interview veteran bar-prep tutor Daniel Schweitzer to get the low-down on the bar exam, what to expect, and how to prepare. Plus, the guys share the origin story of Thinking LSAT and consider a list of flaws you’ll find in LR sections. Read more on our website!

May 18 2020

1hr 35mins

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Ep. 245: Dreaming LSAT

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The guys have been going against the law-school-game grain for so long that Ben is starting to dream about it. After recounting his dream, in which he and Nathan go undercover to the DOJ, the guys jump into a veritable grab bag of LSAT inquiries. They take a look at some news from overseas that LSAT-Flex will not be offered outside of the U.S. They offer some advice about how to manage your time during Logic Games. They weigh some advice about random guessing. And they rip a personal statement to shreds. Plus, Nathan and Ben hear from someone who decided not to go to law school and they read about UC Hastings’s lawsuit with San Francisco. Read more on our website!

May 11 2020

1hr 14mins

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Ep. 244: Desperate Schools, Desperate Measures

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Just as you were recovering from the whiplash that was the announcement of the May LSAT-Flex, LSAC decided to drop another surprise. June LSAT is going the way of the Flex, too! Ben and Nathan talk about the change and give you all the details you need to know if you were registered for the June test. The guys also discuss an advanced strategy for LG, they double down on the importance of predicting answer choices in LR, and they offer up their thinking about parallel reasoning questions. Plus, we get a look at how law schools are getting desperate during a slow admissions cycle. Read more on our website!

May 04 2020

1hr 3mins

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Ep. 243: In the Trenches with LSAT-Flex

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As the pandemic drags on, Nathan, Ben, and all y’all studying for the LSAT are getting used to a new normal. Social distancing. Remote classes. And trying to improve LR during a global health crisis. The guys field questions from folks studying in this brave new world. How do you prepare for the test if you’re an essential worker? What do you do if you can’t focus on ordering games because the world is going to hell? And what should you do if you’re just starting on your LSAT journey? Plus, the guys hear from students who are getting cold feet about going to law school, and others who are getting great promo codes in these fraught times. Read more on our website!

Apr 27 2020

1hr 6mins

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Ep. 242: Law School Promo Codes

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LSAC made some wild changes in the past few weeks. The April LSAT is cancelled, and a new test, LSAT-Flex, is being made available to April LSAT registrants. Nathan and Ben give you everything you need to know (so far) about the unprecedented LSAT-Flex. Plus, the guys take a look at some law schools that are getting a little antsy about incoming 1Ls and offering extra discounts to secure their classes. The guys also talk about why Chipotle sucks, gap years, consider a tip for when you’re in the last few minutes of a section, and hear from a student who ultimately decided against law school. Read more on our website!

Apr 20 2020

1hr 9mins

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Ep. 241: Before You Take the LSAT with Doreen Benyamin

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The guys sit down with Columbia 3L and podcast host, Doreen Benyamin, to talk about what law school is actually like. Benyamin dishes the dirt on what matters in your 1L year, and let’s all y’all know what she wishes she knew before going to law school. Plus, Nathan and Ben help a listener think about how to incorporate their sports career into a personal statement, they consider some advice about how to recreate testing conditions at home, they read a letter from UC Hastings Dean Faigman, and they weigh in on a hypothetical decision between two law schools. Read more on our website!

Apr 13 2020

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Ep. 240: Introducing LSAT Demon Live

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Since the new coronavirus has ushered us all indoors, almost all learning is happening online—that includes getting prepped for the LSAT. In this episode, the guys give you the low down on the latest addition to their online LSAT prep platform: LSAT Demon Live. Plus, Nathan and Ben field a bunch of questions from students wondering how to handle the fact that the spring tests are being cancelled. The answer? Maybe just keep doing the same thing you’ve been doing all along. Read more on our website!

Apr 06 2020

1hr 29mins

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Ep. 239: LSAT in the Time of Corona

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There’s no getting around it. A global pandemic has upended everyday life for almost everyone—including 1L hopefuls and lawyers-to-be. Ben and Nathan field questions about anxiety and uncertainty around the LSAT and law school in the context of the coronavirus pandemic and a looming recession. They share how to prepare for the June LSAT if you feel like the test-prep rug has been pulled out from under yer feet. They discuss the benefits of not going to law school right now. And they offer some food for thought to prospective students who are suddenly faced with going to law school during a recession. Plus, Ben and Nathan talk about meditation and consider what their next careers would be if the LSAT is forever cancelled. Read more on our website!

Mar 30 2020

1hr 13mins

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Ep. 238: How to Ask for Stipends

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Going to law school ain’t cheap. That’s why the Thinking LSAT rebuttable presumption is “don’t pay for law school.” But what about the other costs? Rent, food, transportation. These things can set you back a pretty penny. Nathan and Ben field some questions about to understand scholarship info on ABA 509 reports and how to ask schools for more money to cover expenses beyond tuition. Plus, the guys talk augmented writing tools, how much time to spend on RC passages vs. questions, what’s going on with smaller classes at Wake Forest, and an LSAT Writing #fail. Read more on our website!

Mar 23 2020

1hr 10mins

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Ep. 237: Thinking Social Distancing

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Life and the law school admissions game are a lot different than they were just last week. In this bonus episode, the guys discuss how the coronavirus is impacting their lives, their businesses, and the LSAT. Nathan and Ben share how they’re moving their classes online, they offer an update about their upcoming joint class in NYC (spoiler alert: it’s now available for anyone online), and they dish the dirt on what’s happening with the March LSAT and beyond. Plus, they wildly speculate about the economic implications of the pandemic and talk about how law schools are responding. Read more on our website!

Mar 18 2020

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iTunes Ratings

612 Ratings
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547
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11
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31

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By lbblb3 - May 20 2020
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Solid advice minus any sugar coating. Don’t pay for law school!

Amazing!

By TheGord - May 04 2020
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This podcast deserves a 5/5 stars! Very good advice from two funny dudes.