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Ben Olson (ben@strategyprep.com) and Nathan Fox (nathan@foxlsat.com) started the Thinking LSAT Podcast to become better LSAT teachers, meet LSAT luminaries, and have some fun. Please 1) subscribe, 2) rate and review us, and 3) send us questions. We work for you.

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Ben Olson (ben@strategyprep.com) and Nathan Fox (nathan@foxlsat.com) started the Thinking LSAT Podcast to become better LSAT teachers, meet LSAT luminaries, and have some fun. Please 1) subscribe, 2) rate and review us, and 3) send us questions. We work for you.

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By lbblb3 - May 20 2020
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Solid advice minus any sugar coating. Don’t pay for law school!

Amazing!

By TheGord - May 04 2020
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This podcast deserves a 5/5 stars! Very good advice from two funny dudes.

iTunes Ratings

612 Ratings
Average Ratings
547
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11
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31

Real talk

By lbblb3 - May 20 2020
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Solid advice minus any sugar coating. Don’t pay for law school!

Amazing!

By TheGord - May 04 2020
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This podcast deserves a 5/5 stars! Very good advice from two funny dudes.
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Thinking LSAT

Latest release on Jun 01, 2020

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Ben Olson (ben@strategyprep.com) and Nathan Fox (nathan@foxlsat.com) started the Thinking LSAT Podcast to become better LSAT teachers, meet LSAT luminaries, and have some fun. Please 1) subscribe, 2) rate and review us, and 3) send us questions. We work for you.

Rank #1: Episode 70: Big Law Advice from A Recent Graduate

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Ben reads and recommends Alexander Hamilton. The biography by Ron Chernow inspired the recent musical phenomenon and Ben thinks it could also be an inspiration for aspiring lawyers. (5:30) Dreaming of […]

Sep 28 2016

1hr 19mins

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Rank #2: Ep. 154: Getting into law school with Ann Levine

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With all the changes in law school admissions standards over the past year, the guys have received a bunch of questions about putting your best foot forward when applying to […]

Aug 20 2018

1hr 25mins

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Rank #3: Ep. 241: Before You Take the LSAT with Doreen Benyamin

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The guys sit down with Columbia 3L and podcast host, Doreen Benyamin, to talk about what law school is actually like. Benyamin dishes the dirt on what matters in your 1L year, and let’s all y’all know what she wishes she knew before going to law school. Plus, Nathan and Ben help a listener think about how to incorporate their sports career into a personal statement, they consider some advice about how to recreate testing conditions at home, they read a letter from UC Hastings Dean Faigman, and they weigh in on a hypothetical decision between two law schools. Read more on our website!

Apr 13 2020

1hr 24mins

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Rank #4: Episode 97: Last minute advice for the June 2017 LSAT

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00:02:05 – The biggest message is: You’ve either put in the work or not. “The hay is in the barn.” 00:03:36 – Don’t get caught up in “small sample” glitches—it’s […]

Jun 08 2017

1hr 21mins

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Rank #5: Thinking LSAT 35-Minute Timer

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When students write in for self-studying advice, by far the most common piece of advice we give is to take (and thoroughly review) daily 35-minute timed sections. It’s the bread […]

May 22 2018

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Rank #6: Ep. 147: Detailed and Nuanced Reading

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Welcome to July dear listeners. Summertime is in full swing, and if you follow your nose you might just smell the lingering scent of Nathan Fox’s BBQ ribs on the […]

Jul 09 2018

1hr 27mins

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Rank #7: Episode 67: Or Am I…

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Josh planned to retake the LSAT but then received a recommendation from his pre-law advisor not to do so; now Josh is confused about what he should do. We give […]

Aug 20 2016

1hr 24mins

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Rank #8: Ep. 193: Logic Games Home Runs

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Did you know that if you sort through all of the possible outcomes of any given logic game, it’s likely that you’ll be lookin’ at less than 18 possible outcomes. Not that many, right? And when you know all of the outcomes of a game, chances are you can slay the questions. In this episode, the guys get gnarly with Logic Game 4 from the June 2007 LSAT. They make worlds, they split worlds, and then they split the splits. It gets wild. They also share an email from a law school who wants you to apply to the school so they can give you admissions advice (ummm…insert crying while laughing emoji, pls). Lastly, you’ll hear about the latest from the LSAT Demon, AND you can get a first look at the new Thinking LSAT website. Happy (Logic) gaming!
As always, if you like the show and you want to get more from the Thinking LSAT community, check out the links below. You can connect with other folks studying for the LSAT, and get more useful resources from Nathan and Ben.

Thinking LSAT Facebook Group
Instagram (upcoming events)
LSAT Demon
Strategy Prep
Fox LSAT
Personal Statement Review Package

Important Dates
6/3 – The June LSAT
6/4 – Registration cutoff for the July LSAT (SIGN UP! This puppy is a freebie, and you can cancel your score without penalty AFTER you see how you did…)
6/27 – June scores are released
7/15 – July LSAT

7:17 – Email 1—Alana received a rather amusing and ingenious email from Wash U. Turns out they are writing folks and offering FREE* law-school-admissions advice. Of course, they mention, it sure would be easier to give you said advice if you actually applied to Wash U. so they can review your application documents during the consultation.
The guys half love this slick move by Wash U, but they’re also hearing Admiral Ackbar issuing a warning from the cosmos. On one hand, this move basically starts a negotiation with Wash U. You apply to their school. You get a one on one with their staff so you can feel each other out. Pretty cool so far… But their free advice will probably leave you with some warm and fuzzies about Wash U., increasing your chances of actually attending the school if you get in. On the other hand, whether or not you go to Wash U., you are getting advice from admissions officers who will probably share a valuable perspective on your admissions docs.

We’d love to hear about this experience if any listeners dare to give it a try…

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May 20 2019

1hr 28mins

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Rank #9: Episode 53: How Do You Pace Yourself During the Logical Reasoning Section?

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Nathan finally saw Star Wars: The Force Awakens, and we find the flaws in the film like it’s Question #16 from Section 2 of the June 2007 LSAT. (Spoiler Alert […]

Feb 04 2016

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Rank #10: Episode 88: Let’s Make A Deal

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Unfortunately, Ben just cannot deal! Ads with relentlessly poppy, upbeat, hand-clapping music are making him want to run for the hills. And if the tune features xylophones? Forget about it. […]

Mar 27 2017

1hr 19mins

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Rank #11: Episode 3: Should I cancel my LSAT score?

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Ben and I mildly disagree on whether to bring a watch to test day, then vehemently agree that you should almost never cancel your LSAT score. On the issue of why the test is scaled, not curved, we're equally clueless.  Plus, news from the June 2014 LSAT.

Jun 13 2014

1hr 5mins

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Rank #12: Episode 57: Leveraging Scholarship Offers, When to Start Law School, and Tips for Campus Visits

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After a bad test day and a “questionable” prep guide got him a 147 on the LSAT, Torvald* uses the Thinking LSAT podcast to jump his retake score to a […]

Mar 29 2016

1hr 27mins

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Rank #13: Ep. 141: I turned down Harvard Law School

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The guys jump into a bunch of listener emails and specifically sidestep their usual reports on east- and west-coast weather patterns. Instead, they chat cinema. Fireside style. Nathan talks Deadpool […]

May 29 2018

1hr 21mins

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Rank #14: Ep. 125: Plan Don’t Cram

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Thanks to you, dear listeners, our inbox experienced a wave of new listener mail and the guys get to work answering your LSAT questions. But first, exciting LSAC news! It […]

Feb 06 2018

1hr 23mins

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Rank #15: Ep. 179: Logic Games Fundamentals

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It’s no secret that the Logic Games represent the biggest challenge for most folks who are starting with the LSAT. But the good news? The games are perfectly solvable. That […]

Feb 11 2019

1hr 30mins

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Rank #16: Episode 49: Should a Student Retake the LSAT After Getting a Score of 171?

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One listener has a full-time job, a diagnostic score of 165 and wants to take the June LSAT. She plans to study now, take a break during her busy season at work, and then re-start studying in the spring. Is this a workable study strategy?

Should this listener retake the LSAT after getting a score of 171 on the October test?

A listener from Brazil is studying for the LSAT and has taken five practice tests with scores ranging from 153 to 166. He asks the following questions: Do I have a chance at a scholarship (even with a lower GPA) at a good school? Is a 175 score feasible? Does being an international student make a difference for law school admission?

We also tackle Logical Reasoning question 12 (Section 2) from the June 2007 LSAT.

Got questions you want us to answer in a future podcast? Send us an email!

Thinking LSAT is now on Twitter! Follow us at @thinkinglsat and tweet us a question!

Take a listen and let us know what you think.

Dec 16 2015

1hr 12mins

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Rank #17: Episode 79: Little White Lies and the Diagramming Demon

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Nathan gives five (death)stars to “Rogue One: A Star Wars Story,” while Ben shares a far more lukewarm review of his family’s new dog, a “Mountain Swissy” kind. (0:30) In […]

Dec 31 2016

1hr 11mins

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Rank #18: Ep. 120: Back to the LSAT

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Welcome to 2018, dear listeners. Nathan and Ben ring in the new year by answering a few LSAT questions on air. By popular demand, the guys tackle logical-reasoning and reading-comprehension […]

Jan 02 2018

1hr 27mins

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Rank #19: Ep. 122: Stop statsturbating

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January is in full swing, we’re woefully behind on emails, and Nathan is flexing his Christmas gift to himself: Movie Pass. The guys give a brief review of Star Wars: […]

Jan 16 2018

1hr 27mins

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Rank #20: Episode 78: Think You’re Overthinking? Think Again.

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The guys open Episode 78 by discussing the need to submit a diversity statement with a law school application. Both agree it can be a valuable addition but caution applicants […]

Dec 18 2016

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Ep. 248: Rising 2L, Sarah Ashworth

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School’s out for summer. And that means 1Ls are now officially 2Ls—and many of them just bypass/fail grades, due to the coronavirus pandemic. Friend of the show and Thinking LSAT ex-producer, Sarah Ashworth, drops by to discuss her 1L experience with Nathan and Ben. Sarah shares how her first year of law school met her expectations and what she’s looking forward to as she heads into her 2L year. Then she sticks around to discuss LSAC news and LSAT advice with the guys. They cover what to do if you’re stuck in a particular score range, how to handle Character and Fitness inquiries, and they join forces like a gd LSAT Voltron to unlock LG 3 from practice test 65. Read more on our website!

Jun 01 2020

1hr 38mins

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Ep. 247: Tales from the LSAT-Flex

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This month, students across the US sat for the first-ever LSAT-Flex. And you didn’t need a crystal ball to predict that there would be some hiccups in the rollout. The guys hear some LSAT-Flex horror stories and share how LSAT responded to criticism of the LSAT-Flex. Nathan and Ben also offer up some advice about Rule Substitution questions in the Logic Games and talk about how you can get those RC passages to stick so you don’t need to constantly reread them when you’re working through the questions. Plus, the guys try to help an LSAT tutor who’s getting fed up with “lazy” students. Read more on our website!

May 25 2020

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Ep. 246: Bar Prep with Daniel Schweitzer

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Studying for the LSAT, getting your application together, and grinding it out for three years in law school all lead to one final hurdle: the bar exam. The test that stands between you and a career practicing law. The guys interview veteran bar-prep tutor Daniel Schweitzer to get the low-down on the bar exam, what to expect, and how to prepare. Plus, the guys share the origin story of Thinking LSAT and consider a list of flaws you’ll find in LR sections. Read more on our website!

May 18 2020

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Ep. 245: Dreaming LSAT

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The guys have been going against the law-school-game grain for so long that Ben is starting to dream about it. After recounting his dream, in which he and Nathan go undercover to the DOJ, the guys jump into a veritable grab bag of LSAT inquiries. They take a look at some news from overseas that LSAT-Flex will not be offered outside of the U.S. They offer some advice about how to manage your time during Logic Games. They weigh some advice about random guessing. And they rip a personal statement to shreds. Plus, Nathan and Ben hear from someone who decided not to go to law school and they read about UC Hastings’s lawsuit with San Francisco. Read more on our website!

May 11 2020

1hr 14mins

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Ep. 244: Desperate Schools, Desperate Measures

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Just as you were recovering from the whiplash that was the announcement of the May LSAT-Flex, LSAC decided to drop another surprise. June LSAT is going the way of the Flex, too! Ben and Nathan talk about the change and give you all the details you need to know if you were registered for the June test. The guys also discuss an advanced strategy for LG, they double down on the importance of predicting answer choices in LR, and they offer up their thinking about parallel reasoning questions. Plus, we get a look at how law schools are getting desperate during a slow admissions cycle. Read more on our website!

May 04 2020

1hr 3mins

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Ep. 243: In the Trenches with LSAT-Flex

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As the pandemic drags on, Nathan, Ben, and all y’all studying for the LSAT are getting used to a new normal. Social distancing. Remote classes. And trying to improve LR during a global health crisis. The guys field questions from folks studying in this brave new world. How do you prepare for the test if you’re an essential worker? What do you do if you can’t focus on ordering games because the world is going to hell? And what should you do if you’re just starting on your LSAT journey? Plus, the guys hear from students who are getting cold feet about going to law school, and others who are getting great promo codes in these fraught times. Read more on our website!

Apr 27 2020

1hr 6mins

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Ep. 242: Law School Promo Codes

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LSAC made some wild changes in the past few weeks. The April LSAT is cancelled, and a new test, LSAT-Flex, is being made available to April LSAT registrants. Nathan and Ben give you everything you need to know (so far) about the unprecedented LSAT-Flex. Plus, the guys take a look at some law schools that are getting a little antsy about incoming 1Ls and offering extra discounts to secure their classes. The guys also talk about why Chipotle sucks, gap years, consider a tip for when you’re in the last few minutes of a section, and hear from a student who ultimately decided against law school. Read more on our website!

Apr 20 2020

1hr 9mins

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Ep. 241: Before You Take the LSAT with Doreen Benyamin

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The guys sit down with Columbia 3L and podcast host, Doreen Benyamin, to talk about what law school is actually like. Benyamin dishes the dirt on what matters in your 1L year, and let’s all y’all know what she wishes she knew before going to law school. Plus, Nathan and Ben help a listener think about how to incorporate their sports career into a personal statement, they consider some advice about how to recreate testing conditions at home, they read a letter from UC Hastings Dean Faigman, and they weigh in on a hypothetical decision between two law schools. Read more on our website!

Apr 13 2020

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Ep. 240: Introducing LSAT Demon Live

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Since the new coronavirus has ushered us all indoors, almost all learning is happening online—that includes getting prepped for the LSAT. In this episode, the guys give you the low down on the latest addition to their online LSAT prep platform: LSAT Demon Live. Plus, Nathan and Ben field a bunch of questions from students wondering how to handle the fact that the spring tests are being cancelled. The answer? Maybe just keep doing the same thing you’ve been doing all along. Read more on our website!

Apr 06 2020

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Ep. 239: LSAT in the Time of Corona

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There’s no getting around it. A global pandemic has upended everyday life for almost everyone—including 1L hopefuls and lawyers-to-be. Ben and Nathan field questions about anxiety and uncertainty around the LSAT and law school in the context of the coronavirus pandemic and a looming recession. They share how to prepare for the June LSAT if you feel like the test-prep rug has been pulled out from under yer feet. They discuss the benefits of not going to law school right now. And they offer some food for thought to prospective students who are suddenly faced with going to law school during a recession. Plus, Ben and Nathan talk about meditation and consider what their next careers would be if the LSAT is forever cancelled. Read more on our website!

Mar 30 2020

1hr 13mins

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Ep. 238: How to Ask for Stipends

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Going to law school ain’t cheap. That’s why the Thinking LSAT rebuttable presumption is “don’t pay for law school.” But what about the other costs? Rent, food, transportation. These things can set you back a pretty penny. Nathan and Ben field some questions about to understand scholarship info on ABA 509 reports and how to ask schools for more money to cover expenses beyond tuition. Plus, the guys talk augmented writing tools, how much time to spend on RC passages vs. questions, what’s going on with smaller classes at Wake Forest, and an LSAT Writing #fail. Read more on our website!

Mar 23 2020

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Ep. 237: Thinking Social Distancing

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Life and the law school admissions game are a lot different than they were just last week. In this bonus episode, the guys discuss how the coronavirus is impacting their lives, their businesses, and the LSAT. Nathan and Ben share how they’re moving their classes online, they offer an update about their upcoming joint class in NYC (spoiler alert: it’s now available for anyone online), and they dish the dirt on what’s happening with the March LSAT and beyond. Plus, they wildly speculate about the economic implications of the pandemic and talk about how law schools are responding. Read more on our website!

Mar 18 2020

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Ep. 236: Swipe Left for the Next Applicant

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When you’re applying to law school, you gotta put the winningest sh*t upfront. That means your absolute best LSAT score, sweet references, and a personal statement chock full of dating-profile-worthy facts about who you are and what you’ve achieved. The guys hear from a 3L about how Bar prep is a lot like LSAT prep. They offer advice to someone who fears their score (and test-taking ability) is improving too slowly. They take a look at the wild swings in the US News law school rankings outside of the top 20 and help a 2020 1L-to-be decide where to attend. And the guys take a look at a personal statement that would have law school admissions peeps swiping left. Plus, updates on LSAC practice-test licensing and news about how the coronavirus is affecting law schools and the LSAT world. Read more on our website!

Mar 16 2020

1hr 38mins

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Ep. 235: The Waitlist Game of Chicken

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How you prepare for (and how you perform on) the LSAT will affect every step in your law school game—from admissions, to your law school career, passing the bar exam, and on to your legal career. You’re laying the groundwork now for the rest of your lawyerly life, and today’s show proves it out. Nathan and Ben hear from folks who are just beginning their LSAT prep and want advice about their LR pacing or feel like they’re spotting some trends about RC difficulty. They hear from folks looking toward their 1L year and have questions about diversity statements, how to parse ABA 509 reports, and what to do if you’re on the waitlist. And they hear from a former listener and current 1L about how their law career is starting to take shape. Plus Ben and Nathan talk about Ben’s health, the future of medicine, and they announce their upcoming live class in NYC. Read more on our website!

Mar 09 2020

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Ep. 234: Lower Your Cholesterol with LSAT

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The LSAT is sometimes like the doctor’s office. Someone is giving you data and telling you their opinion, and it could all very well be a load of horse sh*t. That’s why you have to approach the LSAT (and life) with serious critical thinking skills. After Ben shares some new learnings about cholesterol and health, the guys dive into an episode full of tips. Nathan and Ben offer advice about when and how to guess when you’re running out of time. They share their thoughts on how to study for the test—do you spend time on your weakest sections, or do you take a more balanced approach? And they help a long-time listener who’s in the throes of law-school-acceptance negotiations. Read more on our website!

Mar 02 2020

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Ep. 233: Do Question Types Matter?

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Nathan’s just getting back in the saddle after vacationing up and down the California and Oregon coasts; Ben’s getting back in the saddle after weathering a winter cold. And after discussing the benefits of making traditions with your friends, the guys jump into a veritable grab bag of LSAT questions from all y’all law school hopefuls out there. Ben and Nathan discuss the importance of understanding LR question types, they talk about how to approach LG sections, they offer some advice on what to do if you experience your score plateauing, they consider just how religious “religious” law schools are, and much more. Read more on our website!

Feb 24 2020

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Ep. 232: Do the Work

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It’s way late in the admissions cycle, and folks are starting to think about applying in the fall. So, naturally, folks are starting to get the 2020 law school itch. They want to know how to make it easy on themselves to nab a great score and get into a great school. Here’s the deal, tho. There is no easy path. You gotta dig in and do the work to achieve your best LSAT score. Nathan and Ben take a look at how schools calculate your LSAC GPA. They answer questions about how to approach “hybrid” games, whether being a paralegal will look good to admissions staffers, and how students in different score ranges think differently about the test. Plus, Nathan talks Oscar picks, the guys talk non-traditional students, and they hear from the newest UC Hastings student. Read more on our website!

Feb 17 2020

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Ep. 231: Law Schools Workin’ Overtime

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Between singing deans, framed “you’re special” awards, and flexible JD programs to fit your schedule, law schools are working overtime to earn your attention and attract your dollars. But as savvy law school hopefuls, y’all know when to call BS. The guys take a look at some absurd and absurdly amusing desperate moves from law schools in 2020. Nathan and Ben also consider some listener wisdom about how to break down an RC passage, they help a student decide how to incorporate her STEM background into her application package, and they critique a listener’s personal statement. Read more on our website!

Feb 10 2020

1hr 44mins

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Ep. 230: Winning, Not Whining

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With all the LSAT question-type buzz words floating around, it can be tough to keep them straight. The guys offer up a definitive list of LR question types, what they mean, and how you should think about answering them. They also take a look at a recent LSAC-hosted event, offer some advice about when and how to use the LSAT Demon, help someone decide if part-time law school is worthwhile, and try to offer some encouraging words to a listener with an “abysmal” cold diagnostic. Plus, Ben and Nathan consider how the old pipes in Nathan’s house may be affecting his health. Read more on our website!

Feb 03 2020

1hr 56mins

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Ep. 229: Hermanas in the Law with Professor Paulina Vera

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In 2018, Paulina Vera created an online community to engage and support Latinas who were heading to law school, in law school, or working in the law. Since Hermanas In The Law has grown to a thriving community of over 10,000 #Lawtinas. Nathan and Ben talk to professor Vera about issues facing minority law students and answer listener-submitted questions. Nathan and Ben also cover the recent test-date announcement from LSAC, they take a look at a scholarship offer from Suffolk Law, and they hear about a pearl of wisdom that helped give an RC boost to a law school hopeful. Plus, the guys talk about whether Ben’s feeling peckish on his new caveman diet. Read more on our website!

Jan 27 2020

1hr 22mins

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iTunes Ratings

612 Ratings
Average Ratings
547
17
11
6
31

Real talk

By lbblb3 - May 20 2020
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Solid advice minus any sugar coating. Don’t pay for law school!

Amazing!

By TheGord - May 04 2020
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This podcast deserves a 5/5 stars! Very good advice from two funny dudes.