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Ben Olson (ben@strategyprep.com) and Nathan Fox (nathan@foxlsat.com) started the Thinking LSAT Podcast to become better LSAT teachers, meet LSAT luminaries, and have some fun. Please 1) subscribe, 2) rate and review us, and 3) send us questions. We work for you.

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Ben Olson (ben@strategyprep.com) and Nathan Fox (nathan@foxlsat.com) started the Thinking LSAT Podcast to become better LSAT teachers, meet LSAT luminaries, and have some fun. Please 1) subscribe, 2) rate and review us, and 3) send us questions. We work for you.

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Verbal kick in the butt

By AshLovie - Nov 25 2019
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This podcast has given me the motivation I need to do better on the LSAT. If you’re looking for tips and tricks, look elsewhere. Nathan and Ben will simply tell you how it is, which usually means you just need to keep practicing until you learn how to think more critically and read for understanding the first time. It’s also helpful to hear them rip personal statements to shreds, as it teaches me how to be more critical of my own writing.

Great Podcast

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This podcast is really good, incredibly helpful to listen to in preparation for the LSAT.

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542 Ratings
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487
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26

Verbal kick in the butt

By AshLovie - Nov 25 2019
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This podcast has given me the motivation I need to do better on the LSAT. If you’re looking for tips and tricks, look elsewhere. Nathan and Ben will simply tell you how it is, which usually means you just need to keep practicing until you learn how to think more critically and read for understanding the first time. It’s also helpful to hear them rip personal statements to shreds, as it teaches me how to be more critical of my own writing.

Great Podcast

By GottaHaveLuwawu - Jun 28 2019
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This podcast is really good, incredibly helpful to listen to in preparation for the LSAT.

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Ben Olson (ben@strategyprep.com) and Nathan Fox (nathan@foxlsat.com) started the Thinking LSAT Podcast to become better LSAT teachers, meet LSAT luminaries, and have some fun. Please 1) subscribe, 2) rate and review us, and 3) send us questions. We work for you.

Episode 39: Will Legal Experience and Letters of Recommendation from Lawyers Get You Into Law School?

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Here's what we talk about in this week’s Thinking LSAT podcast:

Andrew asks what we think his chances are of admission to the University of Iowa College of Law. He scored a 155 on the LSAT without any preparation (and is now scoring much higher), and is retaking the test in October. He will have a compelling personal statement, and has impressive extracurricular and leadership activities. He also has a potential letter of recommendation from an attorney.
Carmen will apply to law school next fall. She graduated from California State University, Chico with a bachelor's degree in history and a 3.0 GPA. She also works as a paralegal. She asks if we have tips for studying the LSAT on her own while working full time. She also wonders if there are grants and scholarships available for her first-choice of Lewis & Clark Law School, given her GPA and potential LSAT score. In addition, will her experience as a paralegal help her gain admission?
Danny disagrees with our approach of not reading the question stem first in the Logical Reasoning section. We talk about Danny's approach versus our recommendations.
We also get an update from Andre who took our suggestion to slow down and analyze Reading Comprehension passages.

Here's the link to the LSAT tracker we mention during the show. This lets you track your progress and discover what you need to work on.

Take a listen and let us know what you think.
And don’t forget to sign up for our email newsletter. Everyone who signs up will receive updates and sample chapters of the upcoming Logic Games Playbook! Sign up and we’ll be in touch!

Aug 12 2015

1hr 37mins

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Episode 41: Ann Levine, Law School Expert, Shares Tips for Law School Admission

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Ann Levine, Law School Expert, shares advice and answers questions about law school admission.

What do law school admissions committees do with LSAT score bands?
How does the Law School Admissions Council (LSAC) compute your GPA when you retake a college course and then receive a higher grade?
How does LSAC handle transcripts when you're involved in a dual degree program?
What are the first things you should do to prepare for law school?
Brittany asks if you can submit a letter of recommendation from a high school teacher.
When you're asked to supply bullet points for your own letter of recommendation, what information should you give your recommender?
How do you decide on a personal statement topic when you have several life experiences to share?
Kirk has a bachelor's of music degree in trombone performance. He asks how law school admissions committees will view his degree in music, and should he ask for letters of recommendation from his music professors? He also asks about study abroad programs in law school.
Should you submit your law school application now or wait until after taking the October LSAT?

Be sure to check out Ann's new Law School Expert scholarship program.

After our conversation with Ann, we tackle Logical Reasoning questions 7 and 8 (Section 2) from the June 2007 LSAT.

Don’t forget to try out the LSAT tracker. This lets you track your progress and discover what you need to work on.

Take a listen and let us know what you think.
And don’t forget to sign up for our email newsletter. Everyone who signs up will receive updates and sample chapters of the upcoming Logic Games Playbook! Sign up and we’ll be in touch!

Sep 04 2015

1hr 39mins

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Ep. 125: Plan Don’t Cram

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Thanks to you, dear listeners, our inbox experienced a wave of new listener mail and the guys get to work answering your LSAT questions. But first, exciting LSAC news! It […]

Feb 06 2018

1hr 23mins

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Episode 27: How Important is Blind Review When Taking LSAT Practice Tests?

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In this week’s podcast, we answer three LSAT questions and help a prospective law student decide between multiple admission and scholarship offers. Here's a look at our discussion:

Should I be doing same-day blind review when taking LSAT practice tests? And should I blind review Games and Reading Comprehension questions?
How much do the LSAT tests vary through the years? Should students practice taking the LSAT with current tests or earlier ones?
Should I study Logical Reasoning by question type?

Take a listen and let us know what you think.

And don’t forget to sign up for our email newsletter to learn more about the launch of our upcoming Logic Games book! We’ll be looking for people to read the book and write a few reviews. Interested in helping us out? Sign up and we’ll be in touch!

Feb 25 2015

1hr 14mins

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Ep. 120: Back to the LSAT

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Welcome to 2018, dear listeners. Nathan and Ben ring in the new year by answering a few LSAT questions on air. By popular demand, the guys tackle logical-reasoning and reading-comprehension […]

Jan 02 2018

1hr 27mins

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Episode 63: True Grit, Grititude, and It Looks Like We Made Grit

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Ben recommends Grit by Angela Duckworth, a book that could help with your LSAT prep and studying mindset. In that same vein, he mentions episode 202 of the podcast “The […]

Jun 27 2016

1hr 12mins

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Ep. 176: Hello, LSAT Fundamentals

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Ben’s just finished shoveling his snow-covered driveway, and while Nathan’s pumped to travel east for their joint talk on changes to the LSAT, he’s not thrilled to hear about the […]

Jan 21 2019

1hr 14mins

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Episode 8: Reading Comp strategy; admissions talk with Professor Zachary Calo

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Three totally awesome tips for improving your Reading Comprehension score. Plus law school and admissions talk with Valparaiso University law professor Zachary Calo.

Jul 15 2014

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Ep. 118: To Stem First, or not to Stem First?

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Ben has entered the cryptocurrency market with some speculative “investments” in Bitcoin. And the guys take a shallow dive into the world of personal finance before turning to some interesting […]

Dec 19 2017

1hr 31mins

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Episode 53: How Do You Pace Yourself During the Logical Reasoning Section?

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Nathan finally saw Star Wars: The Force Awakens, and we find the flaws in the film like it’s Question #16 from Section 2 of the June 2007 LSAT. (Spoiler Alert […]

Feb 04 2016

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Ep. 112: Change the World, Get a Better LSAT Score

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Autumn is in full swing (*offer does not apply in LA). The guys tackle a few listener emails, then go deeper on their discussion of accommodated testing. But first, Nathan […]

Nov 07 2017

1hr 14mins

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Ep. 167: The Impersonal Statement

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Even if you’ve got writing chops, it can be tough to write effectively about yourself. When the guys review a personal statement, that’s one of the first things they notice. […]

Nov 19 2018

1hr 9mins

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Episode 25: LSAT Questions from Listeners

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We're back from winter break with answers to LSAT questions from listeners, and some exciting news about an upcoming project!

This year, we are writing a Logic Games book, which we believe, will will be the best resource available for that LSAT section. The book will contain 54 Logic Games with detailed explanations on how each one is completed. We'll be distributing free chapters in spring and summer, and will be looking for people to read the book and write a few reviews. If you want to help us with that, sign up for the email newsletter and watch for more information.

In this week's podcast, we answer several questions from listeners, including:

Is there any way to prepare for the experimental section of the LSAT?
What's the best way to deal with post-LSAT stress?
How is the LSAT score scaled?
What's the best way to answer the following questions: must be true; necessary assumptions; and sufficient assumptions?
Is it realistic to go from a LSAT score of 160 to 170 in three weeks?

Take a listen and let us know what you think.

And don't forget to sign up for our email newsletter to learn more about the launch of our upcoming Logic Games book!

Jan 28 2015

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Episode 67: Or Am I…

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Josh planned to retake the LSAT but then received a recommendation from his pre-law advisor not to do so; now Josh is confused about what he should do. We give […]

Aug 20 2016

1hr 24mins

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Episode 103: The Spirit In Which It’s Intended

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It’s mid-summer, the September LSAT is just weeks away, and the guys are in the thick of LSAT prep season. Nate’s been wildly busy helping aspiring law students gear-up for […]

Aug 07 2017

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Ep. 193: Logic Games Home Runs

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Did you know that if you sort through all of the possible outcomes of any given logic game, it’s likely that you’ll be lookin’ at less than 18 possible outcomes. Not that many, right? And when you know all of the outcomes of a game, chances are you can slay the questions. In this episode, the guys get gnarly with Logic Game 4 from the June 2007 LSAT. They make worlds, they split worlds, and then they split the splits. It gets wild. They also share an email from a law school who wants you to apply to the school so they can give you admissions advice (ummm…insert crying while laughing emoji, pls). Lastly, you’ll hear about the latest from the LSAT Demon, AND you can get a first look at the new Thinking LSAT website. Happy (Logic) gaming!
As always, if you like the show and you want to get more from the Thinking LSAT community, check out the links below. You can connect with other folks studying for the LSAT, and get more useful resources from Nathan and Ben.

Thinking LSAT Facebook Group
Instagram (upcoming events)
LSAT Demon
Strategy Prep
Fox LSAT
Personal Statement Review Package

Important Dates
6/3 – The June LSAT
6/4 – Registration cutoff for the July LSAT (SIGN UP! This puppy is a freebie, and you can cancel your score without penalty AFTER you see how you did…)
6/27 – June scores are released
7/15 – July LSAT

7:17 – Email 1—Alana received a rather amusing and ingenious email from Wash U. Turns out they are writing folks and offering FREE* law-school-admissions advice. Of course, they mention, it sure would be easier to give you said advice if you actually applied to Wash U. so they can review your application documents during the consultation.
The guys half love this slick move by Wash U, but they’re also hearing Admiral Ackbar issuing a warning from the cosmos. On one hand, this move basically starts a negotiation with Wash U. You apply to their school. You get a one on one with their staff so you can feel each other out. Pretty cool so far… But their free advice will probably leave you with some warm and fuzzies about Wash U., increasing your chances of actually attending the school if you get in. On the other hand, whether or not you go to Wash U., you are getting advice from admissions officers who will probably share a valuable perspective on your admissions docs.

We’d love to hear about this experience if any listeners dare to give it a try…

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May 20 2019

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Ep. 113: Personal Statement Problems

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The Dodgers lost the Series. It’s cold in DC. And the guys are revved up for an entire show of answering emails. Tune in to hear your LSAT questions answered. […]

Nov 14 2017

1hr 35mins

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Episode 16: Strategies for LSAT Practice Success

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Nathan has a follow-up tutoring session with Ebony, a student from Dallas, Texas. When we were first introduced to Ebony, she was struggling with a learning disability and was unsure how it would impact her LSAT performance.

In the time after her initial meeting with Nathan, Ebony put into practice the following strategies:

Don’t skip the early questions
Take practice test from a current book LSAT exam (Ebony used Volume 5)
Practice logic games from older tests
Slow down at the end and focus on accuracy (even if you don’t finish)
Skip the science-themed reading comprehension sections if needed

By only working on these strategies, Ebony's practice LSAT scores increased from 152 to 157! She went from answering 32 Logical Reasoning questions correctly to 40; and 16 correct Reading Comprehension questions to 21.

In this episode, Nathan and Ebony also review Logical Reasoning questions and how to approach those for correct answers. They also discuss how to use the Fox LSAT online videos to enhance her LSAT practice sessions.

Sep 04 2014

1hr 12mins

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Ep. 147: Detailed and Nuanced Reading

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Welcome to July dear listeners. Summertime is in full swing, and if you follow your nose you might just smell the lingering scent of Nathan Fox’s BBQ ribs on the […]

Jul 09 2018

1hr 27mins

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Episode 76: How’s She Goin’, Eh?

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Episode 76 is a nod to our Northern neighbors as Nathan records from Toronto, Ontario and we’re joined by Graeme Blake from Montreal, founder of LSAT Hacks. So kick off […]

Dec 02 2016

1hr 27mins

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Ep. 222: The Weird Ones

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We’re just on the heels of the November LSAT, and Nathan’s on a whirlwind trip from LA to San Fran to Tahoe to NYC, but he and Ben settle in for a veritable grab bag of LSAT related questions, PSAs, Advice, and more. Curious about all of the weirdest, hardest LSAT questions? So is Nathan, and he pitches a new book idea to Ben. Wondering about the difference between Necessary Assumption and Necessary Condition questions? Ben comes correct with some LSAT guru wisdom for your noggin. Plus, the guys learn about a helpful corner of the ABA disclosures website, some features of LSAT Writing, and they take a look at a heady personal statement. Read more on our website!

Dec 09 2019

1hr 41mins

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Ep. 221: Choosing Your Personal Statement Topic

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Dec 02 2019

1hr 45mins

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Ep. 220: Success is Counted Sweetest

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The winter winds are blowing, holiday plans are being made, and students’ confident fingertips are tapping away on multi-touch displays for the November 2019 LSAT—all while Nathan and Ben settle in for the last show in November. Buckle up and get ready for a PSA about LSAT accommodations, news about the LSAT Writing sample, and law school application tips from Yale. Plus, the guys get artistic with some poetry, a personal statement from “LA’s Youngest DJ,” and more. Read more on our website!

Nov 25 2019

1hr 44mins

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Ep. 219: What's in a Name?

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We’re just one week out from the November 2019 LSAT and the guys fight through headaches, maladies, and the winter cold to drop some serious LSAT knowledge for y’all. Nathan and Ben answer questions about every step on your journey to a law degree. They weigh some wisdom about the relationship between practice LSAT scores vs. official LSAT scores. They talk about how keeping yourself challenged can help you improve your score with an exploration of “the 85% rule.” Plus, they talk about applying with a low undergraduate GPA, review a personal statement, discuss the benefits and drawbacks of transferring to a new law school after 1L, and more. Read more on our website!

Nov 18 2019

1hr 30mins

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Ep. 218: Scholarship Death Match

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The November LSAT is just two weeks away, and Ben and Nathan receive a grab bag of LSAT and law-school-application questions to answer from their separate havens in DC and on a riverboat! The guys hear a sad tale of a career-ending LSAT conversation, they answer a question about reapplying to law school when you realize you’re at the wrong one, they take a renewed look at ABA 509 reports, and they weigh in on whether or not to put a response in the “ethnicity” section of your law school application. Plus, they answer some questions about the LSAT Demon and they take a cold hard look at a personal statement. Read more on our website!

Nov 11 2019

1hr 39mins

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Ep. 217: Practice vs. Real Life with Ann Levine

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Sometimes test day just sucks. You’ve put in the work. You’ve done 30-minute sections each day. You’ve reviewed. Your practice tests indicate you’ll score in your desired range. But then you sit for the test and for one reason or another you just don’t come out on top. That’s life, and that’s the LSAT. Nathan and Ben are joined by Ann Levine to talk about how your day-of performance won’t always be like your best practices. Plus, the guys rate some wisdom dropped by an elite scorer, they share their favorite beverages, take a look behind the scenes of an email from a law school, and more. Read more on our website!

Nov 04 2019

1hr 13mins

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Ep. 216: Law School Alternatives

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Even though the October LSAT is behind us all, the Thinking LSAT duo takes no vacations. The guys are here to weigh in on your questions about law school and life. Things like—“can’t you just take the effing GRE instead and be done with this BS??”—or, “if I’m not going to be a lawyer, what the hell should I do with my life?!” You know. Things like that. Plus, Nathan warns Ben of the dangers of cold season, the guys offer some advice about big drops in your score, they take a look at a personal statement, and Ben confronts Nathan with some damning evidence that he may be working for the enemy. Read more on our website!

Oct 28 2019

1hr 21mins

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Ep. 215: No More Logic Games?!

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The guys are riding high after their Thinking LSAT Live! classes in NYC. But since they’ve been away, some seriously interesting news about the LSAT has surfaced. According to a recent Above the Law article, the Logic Games may be going the way of the dodo. Plus, LSAC is planning some updates to make your testing experience even more perfect than it already is. The guys cover the latest LSAT news, plus they answer some of your questions about the LSAT Demon, LSAT burnout, and more!

Oct 21 2019

1hr 18mins

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Ep. 214: Mise en Place

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September LSAT scores are rolling in and the October and November tests are just around the corner. Not only that, but the school year is kicked off and campuses are a-flurry with campus tours, interviews, and busy admissions staffers sorting through piles of applications. It’s busy in the world of LSAT, and the guys settle in for a show that’s jam-packed with advice. They take a look at a bunch of insider wisdom from Stanford and UC Berkeley staff, and they offer their own advice about law school personal statements, diversity statements, and letters of recommendation. Read more on our website!

Oct 14 2019

1hr 26mins

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Ep. 213: LSAT Demon Study Schedule

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October is here and the guys are getting pumped up for their return to the city that never sleeps. And they’re not the only ones who are getting jazzed. It looks like this will be the biggest Thinking LSAT Live Class yet. But we’re still a week away, so the guys channel their LSAT energy to answer your questions and to bring you the hottest headlines from the wacky world of LSAT. Ben and Nathan talk about how to shift your thinking around LR and RC questions, they uncover evidence of paper tests being offered for the October LSAT, they consider some advice overheard at the September LSAT, they look at how one disgraced law school is goosing their Bar-passage rates, and more. Read more on our website!

Oct 07 2019

1hr 25mins

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Ep. 212: September LSAT Pandemonium

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We’re hot on the heels of the September LSAT and accounts of the test are flooding in from students and law-school hopefuls. Many folks are describing sheer pandemonium, with last-minute cancellations, madness-inducing test proctoring, and ultra-challenging logic games. Nathan and Ben take a look at some of the tales of woe and tales of pride coming out of the September 2019 LSAT. Plus, the guys get a PSA from a listener, they offer some advice about GPA addendums for splitters, they consider intermediary conclusions vs. “regular” conclusions, and they take a look at a surprisingly great personal statement. Read more on our website!

Sep 30 2019

1hr 32mins

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Ep. 211: What’s the Deal with Law School Prep Courses?

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The September ’19 LSAT is finally behind y’all, but the Thinking LSAT crew never rests. LSAT questions continue to come in, and the guys settle in for a well-rounded episode of news, updates, and listener questions. 

Nathan and Ben answer questions about reading comp and whether you should attend a law school prep course. They also take a look at an email from Maine Law and a listener-submitted personal statement. Plus, the guys talk about why Ben is perpetually tired, hear from a long-time fan now 2L, and they correct an error from a previous episode. Read more on our website!

Sep 23 2019

1hr 26mins

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Ep. 210: The Four Stages of Flaw Awareness

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The leaves are beginning to change. Schools are settling into their first semesters. Law-school hopefuls are busy scurrying about, tidying up their applications or getting ready to take the LSAT. And Nathan and Ben blaze through a bunch of listener questions in this jam-packed episode. The guys talk about LR flaw questions, they try to help a confused listener out of an LG fog, shedding some clarity on conditional-ordering games. They also talk conjunctions on personal statements, online degrees, and whether you should waive the right to review your letters of rec. Plus, the guys hear from a listener with a writing-sample horror story and more. Read more on our website!

Sep 16 2019

1hr 14mins

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Ep. 209: October Test Centers Full?!

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The LSAT is a lot like bowling. You send a ball down the lane, you knock some pins down, you refine your technique, you try again. Eventually, you get a strike and a few spares under your belt and before you know it, you’re the head of your local bowling league, scheduling games and enforcing the league rules. Ben and Nathan each recount some special experiences, some new and some old, about life in the bowling lane. Then the Thinking LSAT duo gets down to business. The guys read through an announcement from LSAC about the October LSAT, they weigh in on a test strategy from a listener, they help a correspondent decide whether to apply early or wait for a better score, and they slice and dice a law-school hopeful’s personal statement. Plus, learn about the upcoming Thinking LSAT live class in NYC, and hear a happy tale of Thinking LSAT friendship straight out of Harvard law. Read more on our website!

Sep 09 2019

1hr 8mins

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Ep. 208: Admissions Advice from Law School Admissions

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The guys have been nothin’ but busy on the LSAT front. Nathan’s been writing his ass off, responding to folks who have smashed that “Ask” button in the LSAT Demon. If you’re studying for the LSAT and you’re not asking questions…you’re not studying. Ben’s also had goggles down and dashboard up, slicing through bug requests like a demonic LSAT ninja. If you’re a Demon user and you notice something amiss with the platform, fire away. Ben’s ready for ya. But at the end of the day, they’re never too busy to stop and answer your LSAT quandaries. The guys get a follow-up about a recent writing sample fail. They consider whether you need to warm-up like an athlete before approaching a section. They take a look at an LG question type. And they burn through another LR question from prep test 71. Plus, Ben and Nathan consider some law-school advice from law school, they get a missive from ex-producer of the podcast, Sarah, and they talk more about Ben’s current read: Non-Violent Communication. Read more on our website!

Sep 02 2019

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Ep. 207: Showing, not Telling, with Peanut Butter

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As the school year draws nigh, law schools are singing their siren’s song to try and lure 1L’s-to-be to their campuses. The guys take a look at a few law-school emails to see how these universities are pitching prospective students. Plus, the Nathan and Ben review a personal statement, and look at some questionable advice about timing yourself during LG sections. But before they dive in, the guys have a lil’ chat about the books they’re reading. Read more on our website!

Aug 27 2019

1hr 28mins

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Bonus: Cancel Your July Score?

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So you sat for the bleeps, bloops, swipes and taps of the digital LSAT in July. Now you’re staring at a score that’s made yer heart sink. What to do!? Do you cancel that sub-standard score? Do you keep it and trudge on? Should you race to sign up for the October and November tests? The guys answer all your burning questions re: cancelling your scores. They cover the (few) benefits of cancelling, share why you should keep your score in most instances, and discuss why you don’t need to hang the veritable hat of your self worth on this one data point.

Aug 23 2019

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Ep. 206: Saying No to Law School, A Love Story

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The guys are enjoying a brief reprieve from the blazing summer heat, and the cooler weather is giving them some extra room to breathe and think about the LSAT. You know, things like why the eff is the registration deadline so freakin’ far out from the actual test date? The guys discuss reports of LSAT testing center shortages and how LSAC may be dealing with the challenges “going digital,” like suddenly needing to manage thousands of devices. Plus, they answer your burning questions about writing samples, testing timing, and they share a love story from someone who decided to opt-out of going to law school. Read more on our website!

Aug 19 2019

1hr 19mins

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Ep. 205: Digital LSAT Tips for Suckers

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We’re in the heart of summer, and things are heating up for Nathan and Ben. Ben’s been hard at work adding features to the LSAT Demon and improving user experience, and Nathan’s been working hard to improve his golf game. The guys take a break to dive into some LSAT updates for you, dear listeners. The guys give some digital LSAT updates, take a look at some pretty wild claims from PowerScore (about their own book series), they read a diversity statement from a listener, and unravel another LR question. Happy listening, and stay cool under the sun, y’all. 

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Aug 12 2019

1hr 15mins

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Ep. 204: LSAT Burpees

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It’s the dead of summer and the guys are cutting all over the place on this adventure and that adventure in the wake of the July LSAT. Ben’s been biking through the countryside, enjoying vistas of abandoned steel mills from the days of yore. Nathan’s getting ready to go on a family vacay where he’ll challenge his nieces and nephews to board games among the giant sequoias. And the two hunker down for an episode of serious logical reasoning. Nathan and Ben tackle two new LR questions from the December 2013 LSAT and take you on every step of their thought process as they do so. Plus, a listener writes in with a perhaps pearl of wisdom about exercising before the LSAT, and the guys shred a personal statement. 

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Aug 05 2019

2hr 9mins

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