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The Third Wave

The Third Wave Podcast explores the many minds of the emerging psychedelic renaissance. Through conversations with thought leaders across various disciplines, we explore how psychedelics, when used with intention and responsibility, catalyze transformation on both an individual and collective level.Are you a newbie fresh off an incredible first psychedelic experience? An experienced psychonaut with decades of use? Or just an interested bystander, curious about the relevance of psychedelics to health and wellness?Regardless of your why, our podcast gives you a unique look into how psychedelic substances change culture and society for the better.

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Janet Chang - A Year-Long Microdosing Experiment

Janet Chang, digital marketer and entrepreneur, talks to us about her experiences with microdosing. With a background in professional sports and personal development, Janet has applied her own style of testing and tracking to her microdosing experiment. We hear about the benefits and pitfalls she discovered after microdosing psilocybin mushrooms at work for over a year. For a full summary and show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/janet-chang To support the podcast, join us on Patreon! https://patreon.com/thethirdwave

1hr 4mins

16 Jul 2017

Rank #1

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Ingmar Gorman, Ph.D. - Microdosing with Caution

Ingmar Gorman, Ph.D. clinical psychologist and principal investigator in MAPS’ research into MDMA-assisted psychotherapy, is our guest this week. Ingmar shares with us his journey into the world of psychedelic therapy, and what he hopes the research at MAPS can achieve. We also discuss the rise of microdosing, and why Ingmar believes we should be cautious about its benefits. For show links: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-47-ingmar-gorman/ Sign up to our microdosing course! https://thethirdwave.co/microdosing-course/

1hr 10mins

16 Apr 2018

Rank #2

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Tao Lin - The Optimal Environment for Microdosing

Tao Lin, celebrated novelist and poet, describes the perception-altering effects of psychedelics and microdosing, and how they’ve influenced his outlook on life. Tao discusses the importance of listening to ancestral wisdom, and how plant medicines can be used with other complementary practices to improve our lives. We talk about the damages of modern life, and what a rural lifestyle could offer us. For show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-54-tao-lin/ Sign up to our extensive microdosing course: https://thethirdwave.co/microdosing-course/


8 Jul 2018

Rank #3

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Ingmar Gorman, Ph.D. & Elizabeth Nielson, Ph.D. - Curating an Optimal Psychedelic Experience

Psychedelic psychotherapists Ingmar Gorman and Elizabeth Nielson speak at our 3W Nodes event in NYC about preparing for and integrating a psychedelic experience. These experienced psychologists share the best techniques for getting the most out of a psychedelic trip. For show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/episode-65-ingmar-gorman-elizabeth-nielson/ Sign up to our microdosing course here: https://thethirdwave.co/microdosing-course/

1hr 24mins

6 Jan 2019

Rank #4

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Steven Kotler - Flow States and Psychedelics

Steven Kotler, expert on flow states and Director of Research for the Flow Genome Project, talks to us about his first experiences of flow, and how psychedelics have played a part in his career. We discuss the problems facing our society, and how a scientific understanding of flow states could help us change the way we approach vital cultural issues. For a full summary, and show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/steven-kotler Help us out by becoming a Patron! https://patreon.com/thethirdwave

1hr 10mins

14 Aug 2017

Rank #5

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Ben Greenfield - What Does a World-Class Fitness Coach Have to Say About Microdosing?

As one of the world’s top fitness coaches, Ben Greenfield has a lot of experience with self-optimization. So what does he have to say about psychedelics and psychedelic microdosing as tools for personal development? We discuss rites of passage, ego loss, and holistic health – and how spirituality can be an important complement to physical fitness.  Disclaimer:in this podcast, Ben briefly discusses stem cell therapies. These are unapproved and have often been associated with deadly scams. Please don’t take Ben’s experiments as medical advice. For show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-55-ben-greenfield/ Join our microdosing course to learn more! https://thethirdwave.co/microdosing-course/

1hr 3mins

20 Jul 2018

Rank #6

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Dana Larsen - The World’s First Microdosing Mushroom Dispensary

Dana Larsen, well-known cannabis rights activist, joins host Paul Austin to discuss his new microdosing mushroom dispensary in Vancouver, British Columbia. Dana has fought unjust cannabis laws for several years, opening one of Canada's first cannabis dispensaries in 2008. Applying the lessons learned from his path as a cannabis activist, Dana is now utilizing his valuable experience to destigmatize psychedelics. His goal is to normalize psilocybin mushrooms for healing and personal growth.  Podcast highlights: Dana's path of civil disobedience and why he chose to open some of the first cannabis dispensaries in Canada Why Dana is now using his experience in cannabis activism and applying it to psilocybin How Dana makes a living as an activist - and why he wants others to follow a similar path for cannabis and psychedelics


22 Oct 2019

Rank #7

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Kim Iglinsky - Finding Purpose with Psychedelics

From fashion model to psychedelic guide – Kim Iglinsky has an unusual career path. Kim describes how her upbringing in an Israeli Kibbutz, followed by an unsatisfying career in modelling, led to her seeking love and belonging in psychedelic ritual. Ayahuasca played an important part in the transformation that helped her find meaning and fulfilment in life. She describes her practices of psychedelic integration, and how her microdosing regime keeps her depression at bay. For show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-58-kim-iglinsky/ Learn more about microdosing: https://thethirdwave.co/microdosing-course/

1hr 1min

2 Sep 2018

Rank #8

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Matt Cooper - Psychedelics and Fitness

Physical fitness is the focus of this week’s episode! We’re joined by nutritionist and fitness coach Matt Cooper, who explains how microdosing can help optimize both mind and body. He describes how his experiences with psychedelics have helped him become a healthier person, and where microdosing would fit in with a fitness and wellbeing protocol. For show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/matt-cooper Sign up to our exclusive microdosing course: https://thethirdwave.co/microdosing-course


4 Mar 2018

Rank #9

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Gerard Adams - Ayahuasca, Conscious Leadership, and Creating Meaningful Movements

Gerard Adams, widely known as the “Millenial Mentor”, joins host Paul Austin to discuss leadership and how plant medicine impacted Gerard's perspective on what matters most in business and in life.   In 2015, Gerard Adams sold Elite Daily for $50 million. Many things have changed since that defining day, including the beginning of his practice with plant medicine. Integrating the insights learned from 5-MeO-DMT and ayahuasca has helped Gerard to weave together new models of business and conscsiousness, creating inspiring roadmaps for young leaders across the globe.

1hr 13mins

20 Nov 2019

Rank #10

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Dennis McKenna, Ph.D. - Plant Medicines and Religion

Ethnopharmacologist and psychedelic icon Dennis McKenna treats us to a discussion on psychedelic medicines, plant intelligence, and the failures of organized religion. Dennis explains what lessons can be learned from psychedelic plants, and what we can do to avoid the imminent obliteration of humanity. For show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-46-dennis-mckenna/ Sign up to our extensive microdosing course: https://thethirdwave.co/microdosing-course/


8 Apr 2018

Rank #11

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Will Siu, Ph.D. - The Future of Psychedelics: Medicalization, Microdosing, and the Mainstream

Join us at our 3W Node event in New York, with our guest Dr. Will Siu, a psychiatrist who has been trained as a psychedelic therapist by MAPS. He talks about the problems with conventional therapy, and explains how psychedelic-assisted therapy could take up some of the slack. For show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-63-will-siu/ Sign up for our microdosing course! https://thethirdwave.co/microdosing-course/

1hr 24mins

25 Nov 2018

Rank #12

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James W Jesso - Encountering the Shadow Side

James W. Jesso is a public speaker and author who is a world-leading psychedelic expert. In our interview with James, we discuss the ‘shadow side’ of our lives, and how psilocybin mushrooms could help us come into contact with it. James believes that encountering our deepest fears and unknowns will allow us to be more in control of our lives. For show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-49-james-jesso/ Join our microdosing community: https://thethirdwave.co/microdosing-course/


13 May 2018

Rank #13

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Adam Strauss - A Fresh Perspective on OCD

Although Adam Strauss named his popular show “The Mushroom Cure,” his psychedelic knowledge doesn’t end at psilocybin mushrooms. In this episode, Adam shares with us the good and bad of his psychedelic experiences – from solipsistic nightmares to curative perspective shifts. We hear about Adam’s opinion on microdosing, and how exposing his vulnerabilities on stage is just what some people need. For show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-57-adam-strauss/ For more information about microdosing, sign up to our extensive course: https://thethirdwave.co/microdosing-course/

1hr 5mins

19 Aug 2018

Rank #14

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Stacey Wallin & Payton Nyquvest - Waking Up to a New Consciousness: The Future of Transformative Wellness

Stacey Wallin & Payton Nyquvest join Paul Austin to discuss their new project, Numinus, a global network of healing spaces that use a combination of psychedelic medicine and cutting-edge science.  Founded in 2018, Numinus offers a holistic blend of medicine-assisted therapy, psycho-spiritual support and integrative services as a path towards experiencing transformative health. Based in Vancouver, they plan to develop worldwide centers in the coming years.

1hr 22mins

5 Dec 2019

Rank #15

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Bia Labate, Ph.D. - The Future of Ayahuasca

Beatriz Labate, PhD, joins us for a discussion on ayahuasca, shamanism and cultural evolution. Her expertise in anthropology gives her a unique perspective on what the commercialization of ayahuasca means for the future of psychedelics, and how psychedelic traditions and cultures will be affected by the growing mainstream popularity of plant medicines. For a full summary and show links, go here: https://thethirdwave.co/bia-labate To support the podcast, become one of our Patrons! https://patreon.com/thethirdwave

1hr 25mins

27 Aug 2017

Rank #16

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Michael Costuros, Tiffany Liu & Tim Sae Koo - Transitioning From "Business As Usual" With Psychedelics

Psychedelic entrepreneurs Tiffany Liu, Tim Sae Koo, and Michael Costuros join Paul Austin in San Francisco for a conversation on the intersection of psychedelics and business. Can psychedelics help change our exploitative business mindsets, and produce more compassionate, fair practices? For show links go here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-66-costuros-liu-koo/ Sign up to our microdosing course: https://thethirdwave.co/microdosing-course/

1hr 27mins

27 Jan 2019

Rank #17

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James Beshara - Burnout, Rebirth, and Going Beyond Coffee

James Beshara, an angel investor, founder, podcaster, and general startup-helper, joins host Paul Austin to discuss burnout as a founder and what tools James discovered beyond coffee to feel his best. Burnout has become increasingly common in the workplace. It is particularly insidious in the start-up world. In this week’s episode, we talked about James’s new book “Beyond Coffee: A Sustainable Guide to Nootropics, Adaptogens, and Mushrooms” and why doing more as a founder is not equivalent to living a life of meaning and purpose.

1hr 12mins

6 Nov 2019

Rank #18

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Sophia Rokhlin - Keeping Psychedelics Weird

Anthropologist Sophia Rokhlin joins us on the podcast to discuss ayahuasca, sustainability, and the role of microdosing in capitalist society. Sophia shares her experiences with ayahuasca shamans, and describes the issues of sustainability – where should we draw the line when it comes to the commodification of ayahuasca? Sophia also gives her opinion on microdosing, and the dangers of it being used to further corporate ‘growth-at-all-costs’ goals. For show links, see here: https://thethirdwave.co/podcast/episode-56-sophia-rokhlin/ Sign up to our microdosing course: https://thethirdwave.co/microdosing-course/


5 Aug 2018

Rank #19