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200churches Podcast: Ministry Encouragement for Pastors of Small Churches

Jeff and Jonny are pastors who want to encourage pastors of “smaller” churches. All most pastors see online are the churches that have grown into the thousands in just a few years, the ones that spread out around the city through multiple services and multiple campuses. The ministry leaders with the most influence are the mega church pastors with mega ministries, staffs, and dollars. Praise God for what He is doing in these large and influential churches! We benefit from their vision and influence.Jeff and Jonny know that there are hundreds of thousands, that have 200 or less in attendance. The work of these pastors and ministries can get lost in the shuffle, and they want to encourage, equip, support, inspire, and cheer on the pastors of 200churches – those churches with around 200 people, give or take a hundred or two! When they talk with guests like N.T. Wright, Scot McKnight, Dan Reiland, Carey Nieuwhof and so many more, they always turn the conversation to small church pastoral ministry.With humor, passion, conviction, and care Jeff and Jonny share methods and inspiration for the small church pastor. If you are a lay, bi-vocational, or solo pastor, the 200churches Podcast is for YOU!

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Episode 166 - A Theology of How the Church Works - with Scot McKnight

Jeff and Jonny talk with Dr. Scot McKnight from Northern Seminary about the messages in his book, A Fellowship of Differents! This is a long, rich, theologically alive conversation! Enjoy!


23 Mar 2016

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Episode 177 - Teaching The Text: A Conversation with NT Scholar Jeannine Brown

A deep dive into the importance of understanding the text of Scripture in both the theory and practice of small church ministry. Dr. Jeannine Brown joins us to talk about her life's work, NT scholarship & teaching pastors!Jeannine is a New Testament scholar, author, and Seminary professor. She talked with us about her journey to being an author and professor, as well as her work in the New Testament, and especially the commentaries she has written and how they have changed her.The first 55 minutes are the actual episode and the last 15 contain extra material on the changing nature of seminaries and theological education today. This was a huge JOY - to record with Jeannine!

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8 Jun 2016

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Episode 349 - How Pastors Manage Suffering, Grow, and Finish Well with Ken Roberts

Ken Roberts, from https://www.kenlroberts.com joins us to talk about suffering and struggle, growth, survival, and finishing well as pastors. This is so practical and encouraging!


27 May 2020

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Episode 94 - 15 Years In His 200church - A Conversation With A Pastor Listener

Jeff and Jonny talk with 200church Pastor Chad Payne. Chad has served for 15 years in his 200church and talks about the blessings and battles of pastoral ministry. You will be encouraged and challenged!


5 Nov 2014

Rank #4

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Episode 106 - Beyond Burnout - This Pastor Turned Psychologist Offers Hope!

Dr. Mike Ferguson joins Jeff to talk about his passion to help small church pastors with burnout, depression, and loneliness. Dr. Mike pastored for 20 years, burned out, recovered, and then became a psychologist to help pastors and churches! This episode rocks and gives hope at the same time! And yes, Jonny is highly insulted and put out for not being in on the call with Mike…


28 Jan 2015

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Episode 43 - Small Church Pastors and Pornography Addiction

In this episode Jonny and Jeff are joined by their friend Nathan Stob, the Director of Atlas Ministries in their town. Nathan counsels and helps men in their community with all kinds of life issues, including porn addiction. This is a serious discussion of the spiritual silent killer: porn. If you struggle with this, or if you need to help others who struggle, we know this episode will help and encourage you.


6 Nov 2013

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Episode 300 - What Millennials Look For In A Church with Tiffany Deluccia

Tiffany Deluccia, the Director of Marketing & Communications at The Unstuck Group, joins the guys on Episode 300 to talk about what millennial parents look for in a church. Then we add some throwback fun on the end of the episode! In fact, the last nine minutes of the episode is the entire first episode ever of the podcast, from January 2013! Enjoy!

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31 Oct 2018

Rank #7

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Episode 25 - How To Turn Around A Messy 200church

Jonny and Jeff are joined by Greg Atkinson, the Campus Pastor at Forest Park Carthage, near Joplin MO. Greg is an author and speaker, but his heart is in the local church and he is first a pastor. Greg shares what it took for him to turn his messy 200church around.


3 Jul 2013

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Episode 285 - Staffing Principles and Strategies That Work Even In Small Churches with Sarah Bouma from the Unstuck Group

Sarah Bouma works with Tony Morgan and his Unstuck Group, (www.theunstuckgroup.com) coaching churches in the areas of staffing and structure. She was recently at Jeff's church and was so gracious to stick around and record a podcast episode with Jeff! Jonny and Jeff are together for the IN and OUT of this episode, and promo a great small church conference opportunity coming up this October!


11 Jul 2018

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Episode 121 - How To Freshen Up Your Sunday Morning Experience!

Dan "The Animal" Reiland joins the guys for this episode and talks about the evaluative questions to ask in assessing your Sunday morning experience. This is a very full, often serious, yet also humorous and fun episode. You will be both encouraged and challenged. We promise!


13 May 2015

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Episode 104 – The Challenge of Pastoring Toxic People in Your 200Church

Small Church Pastor Coach Dave Jacobs rejoins Jonny and Jeff to talk about the challenge of toxic people in our churches, and how to handle them. The worst thing you could do is ignore them!


14 Jan 2015

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Episode 237 - When Pastors Move - Jeff & Jonny's Story

Big transitions in both Jeff and Jonny's ministries this year! At this release, Jonny has left Orange City, and Jeff is on his way in about one month. They tell their stories of grit and grimace, faith and failure! Or... just their stories... of how God is moving them on to other ministries, while continuing to unite their hearts together to advocate for the cause of small church pastors everywhere!


2 Aug 2017

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Episode 242 - Leading in Uncharted Territory with Tod Bolsinger

Jonny talks with Tod Bolsinger about his recent book "Canoeing the Mountains" and leading the church in the post-Christian world we find ourselves in. Jonny is joined in this interview by Suzanne Vogel and Jeff even pops in for the beginning and ending!


6 Sep 2017

Rank #13

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Episode 23 - Five Technologies Every 200church Must Engage With

Jonny and Jeff talk about social media that every 200church must engage with. It's easier than ever to stay connected with people, we just have to do it. Here are five social media technologies that your church must engage with, or be left out...


19 Jun 2013

Rank #14

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Episode 146 - Igniting Authentic Worship in Your Small Church

Jeff and Jonny talk with Jeremiah Hollis, an Australian worship leader, about how to ignite authentic and genuine worship in your small church worship experiences. Jeremiah has led worship in their church, and is much loved!


4 Nov 2015

Rank #15

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Episode 24 - How To Lead and Influence Older People As A Young Leader

Jeff and Jonny answer a question sent in by Tyler Eiland. He asked about how to lead people in his church who have been attending the church he pastors for twice as long as he has been alive... Good question Tyler! Many of us younger leaders have to deal with that reality. The guys give 8 ideas for leading and influencing the older people in your church.


26 Jun 2013

Rank #16

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Episode 119 - Keep the Volunteer Pipeline Flowing For Successful Ministry Successions

With Jeff sick, Jonny pulls off a masterful performance with Australian Pastor Coach and Mentor, John Finkelde! They talk about how to create positive ministry successions in your small church, and keep the volunteer pipeline flowing. John is the founder of www.GrowAHealthyChurch.com.


29 Apr 2015

Rank #17

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Episode 31 - Founder of NewSmallChurch.com Talks Small Church Ministry

Jeff and Jonny talk with Karl Vaters, a 200church pastor from Orange County, CA and founder of NewSmallChurch.com, a blog devoted to Small Church ministry. This is only 30 minutes of an almost hour long conversation we enjoyed. Karl is full of vision and energy, and most importantly, passion for the body of Christ! Karl will definitely be back to join us again on the podcast!


14 Aug 2013

Rank #18

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Episode 324 - Small Churches and HOPE with Rob Douglas

Rob Douglas, denominational leader and pastoral coach, joins Jeff to talk about what impacts small church pastors, and just a little bit about how we can encourage one another in ministry, as Jeff and Rob did for each other in this episode!


1 Jun 2019

Rank #19

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Episode 55 - Six Words For Small Churches with Dan Reiland

Jonny and Jeff talk with Dan Reiland about some very cool dynamics of small churches - 6 Words For Small Churches! Dan joins the guys every last Wednesday of the month. Dan is the executive pastor at 12stone Church in Lawrenceville GA.


29 Jan 2014

Rank #20