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The Next Pats Podcast - A Patriots Podcast

"The Next Pats Podcast" focuses on the NFL Draft and free agency for the New England Patriots. NBC Sports Boston's Phil Perry welcomes guests and breakdowns every aspect of the Patriots offseason, including free-agency and the NFL Draft. New episodes drop every Wednesday!

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Bias aside, Rob Ninkovich explains why his money is on the Patriots to beat the Chiefs

Phil Perry and Rob Ninkovich break down the Patriots win over the Chargers, and preview the Patriots-Chiefs AFC Championship game. (1:00) Rob Ninkovich explains why he was so confident the Patriots would have no problem with the Chargers (3:00) Ninkovich explains why he is not being a homer when he says he would put his money on the Patriots against the Chiefs (7:00) Rob Ninkovich breaks down what the Patriots defense did that was so successful against the Chargers (9:30) Do the Patriots need to change the scheme they used defensively against the Chargers when facing the Chiefs? (12:00) Why were the Chargers so bad on Sunday? Who is to blame? (19:30) How will the weather in Kansas City impact practices and the game on Sunday? (20:30) Rob Ninkovich gives a player perspective on what it is like to play in the cold (23:30) Do the Patriots have to play from ahead to beat the Chiefs? Should they take the ball first if they win the toss? (26:00) How much have the Patriots-Chiefs changed since playing in Week 6?See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

30mins

15 Jan 2019

Rank #1

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Rob Ninkovich thinks losing Josh Gordon actually HELPED the Patriots offense

Phil Perry and Rob Ninkovich break down the Patriots win over the Chiefs. Rob Ninkovich breaks down how the Patriots defense was able to slow down the Chiefs offense, and why he thinks Dee Ford the mistake that cost his team. Nink also explains why he thinks losing Josh Gordon actually helped Tom Brady and the Patriots offense for the playoffs. (1:30) Rob Ninkovich reacts to the Patriots getting the win at Arrowhead Stadium. (2:30) Rob Ninkovich breaks down why he thinks Dee Ford made a critical mistake at a huge time for the Chiefs. (4:30) Rob Ninkovich thinks the roughing the passer call on Tom Brady late in the game was wrong (6:00) Breaking down what Ninkovich saw that made the Patriots shut down Tyreek Hill and slow down Patrick Mahomes. (8:30) What was the biggest difference in the Patriots defense in the first and second half? (10:15) Rob Ninkovich explains why he thinks losing Josh Gordon actually helped the Patriots offense. (12:00) Breaking down the Patriots final 2 drives. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

20mins

22 Jan 2019

Rank #2

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Former NFL QB Bruce Gradkowski wants the Patriots to draft fellow Toldeo QB

Mike Giardi is joined by former NFL quarterback Bruce Gradkowski to discuss the 2018 Draft Class, including Logan Woodside from his alma mater, Toledo. Gradkowski talks about his draft experience and how the combine results are way overblown in terms of translating to success in the league. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

28mins

26 Apr 2018

Rank #3

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The role the draft plays in the Patriots system with Mark Dominik and Kevin Clark

2:21 - Former Tampa Bay Buccaneers GM and contributor on Sirius XM NFL Radio Mark Dominik joins Phil to analyze the Patriots draft strategy in the recent past. He starts by talking about how New England finds success by focusing on the "second draft."5:46 - Mark talks about how the current Collective Bargaining Agreement has effectively wiped out the middle class of NFL players and discusses how the new CBA could fix this problem.9:52 - What kind of moves have the Patriot made in recent drafts and how do those patterns look to play out in this year's draft?12:41 - Phil wraps up the interview by asking Mark if this is the right time for the Patriots to draft Tom Brady's heir.14:54 - Phil is joined by NFL writer for The Ringer Kevin Clark, who starts off by discussing how old New England's roster is compared to the rest of the league and why.20:04 - Kevin explains that stockpiling veteran players is a good move the Patriots because it's much easier for Bill Belichick to fit experienced players into his complicated system. 26:45 - Phil asks if this is the year that the Patriots will make some huge moves in the draft or if they'll continue to acquire veteran players.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

32mins

12 Mar 2019

Rank #4

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How the Patriots executed a great defensive plan vs Rams to win Super Bowl; Edelman a Hall of Famer?; The end of Gronk?

3:10 - Rob Ninkovich describes what it is like watching your former team and teammates win the Super Bowl. Ninkovich says that the whole team had a chip on their shoulder which motivated them throughout.7:20 - How Julian Edelman was able to get open on seemingly every play. Did the Patriots offense wear the Rams defense down?9:50 - Edelman was able to return to form following an ACL injury in the previous season. Ninkovich says that the 4-game suspension at the beginning of this season actually helped Edelman and was a blessing in disguise.11:40 - Is Julian Edelman a Hall of Famer?13:35 - The gameplan that the Patriots put together on defense that allowed them to stop the high-powered offense of the Rams. What did they change that seemed to confuse Jared Goff.21:20 - Brian Flores leaves to go become the head coach of the Dolphins and goes out on top with the Patriots.25:20 - Josh McDaniels and the Patriots offense was not afraid to call the same play over and over again since it was working.28:00 - The legacy of Rob Gronkowski. Will he be back next season?See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

33mins

4 Feb 2019

Rank #5

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Rob Ninkovich breaks down AFC playoff matchups/ Intimidation factor Patriots have over other teams

Rob Ninkovich sits down with Mike Giardi to discuss the AFC playoff matchup, and why he believes in other teams being intimated of the Patriots come playoff time. (1:00)Rob Ninkovich on life after football, and what parts of the game he misses. (2:30) What should the Patriots main focus during their bye week. (3:30) Ninkovich on his first impressions of James Harrison with the Patriots. (9:00) Is this Patriots defense good enough to win a Super Bowl (11:00) Rob Ninkovich on how much other teams are intimidated by Bill Belichick in the playoffs. (13:30) Rob Ninkovich on whether Matt Patricia will make a good head coach, and tells stories of when he would butt heads with him during his career. (21:30) Did the Steelers formulate the perfect plan to beat the Patriots?See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

30mins

1 Jan 2018

Rank #6

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Rob Ninkovich gives his first impressions of Patriots defense/ Dont’a Hightower on his return to the field

Rob Ninkovich and Phil Perry break down the Patriots week 1 win over the Texans. (5:00) Ninkovich gives his first impressions of the Patriots defense under Brian Flores. (8:30) Will the Texans offensive line be the worst line the Patriots face this season? (11:20) What grades do we give the Patriots offense after game 1? (17:00) Dont’a Hightower joins our crew to break down the Patriots week 1 win, and how it felt to be back on the field. (21:00) Rob Ninkovich gives his studs and duds from the Patriots-Texans game. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

29mins

11 Sep 2018

Rank #7

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Troy Brown on what it takes to be a receiver in Belichick's system

2:15 - Phil Perry is joined by Patriots Hall of Famer and three-time Super Bowl champion Troy Brown to break down how different types of receivers are utilized in Bill Belichick's system.6:33 - Troy begins by discussing the role of the slot receiver: How he lines up on the field, and what kind of player he needs to be both physically and mentally.11:11 - Next, Troy defines what the 'Z position' receiver is and gives examples of those versatile types of players from his time in the league.16:25 - Troy finishes by explaining the role of receivers in the 'X position,' the big play makers on the outside, and how the Patriots haven't had a true 'X' since Randy Moss.21:23 - Phil goes through a handful of prospective receivers the Patriots could draft this year and determines if they would fit in the Slot, Z position (26:41), or the X position (30:22) in the Patriots system.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

36mins

23 Mar 2019

Rank #8

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James Harrison is officially a Patriot, but how much will he contribute?

On the latest episode of The Ex-Pats Podcast with Mike Giardi and Dan Koppen...0:38 - The Patriots signed two-time All-Pro linebacker James Harrison to add defensive depth for their playoff push. What role will Harrison play at the end of his career in a new system?6:23 - An overwhelming number of teams in the NFL could be giving their head coaches the boot following the end the of the regular season. 12:53 - Not even the Patriots are immune to coaching staff turnover. Josh McDaniels and Matt Patricia could end up as head coaches of new teams come next season. Which teams would be the most-appealing landing spots for them and what will the Patriots do to fill those voids?24:48 - The Patriots came away with a 37-16 victory over the Buffalo Bills in week 16, with yet another controversial touchdown reversal call. Did the NFL get the call right or do they need to make a change?See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

29mins

27 Dec 2017

Rank #9

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Greg Cosell from NFL Films talks NFL Draft

Mike Giardi chats with Executive Producer of "NFL Matchup" (and NFL Films) Greg Cosell to talk about some of the players that have been linked to the New England Patriots in one way or another for the 2018 NFL Draft. Players discussed in this episode include Louisville QB Lamar Jackson (1:50), Oklahoma St. QB Mason Rudolph (4:55), Washington St. QB Luke Falk (7:13), Maryland WR DJ Moore (9:45), offensive tackles Kolton Miller of UCLA and Connor Williams of Texas (11:37), Edge prospect Lorenzo Carter of Georgia (16:45), LB's Leighton Vander Esch of Boise St. and Rashaan Evans of Alabama (18:25). Also, Cosell talks about a couple of under the radar later round picks he likes - LB Darius Leonard of South Carolina St. and DT Derrick Nnadi of Florida St.Make sure and follow Greg on Twitter @gregcosellSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

24mins

25 Apr 2018

Rank #10

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12-year veteran QB Dan Orlovsky breaks down 2018 Draft quarterback class

0:44 - 12-year NFL veteran QB Dan Orlovsky joins Mike Giardi to break down the quarterbacks in the 2018 Draft. Orlovsky begins by dialing in on what stands out for prime candidates.4:24 - With it being reported that the Patriots have an “affinity” for Baker Mayfield, Orlovsky discusses how Mayfield’s skills will translate in the NFL and if he will be able to mentally handle the responsibility that comes with being an NFL quarterback.9:08 - Whether or not the Patriots use the 2018 draft to find Brady’s long-tern replacement, whomever they draft will try to pick Brady’s brain. Orlovsky talks about how a newly-drafted QB can learn from a veteran and also how he should try to be himself.14:24 - We’ve seen very few backups thrust into a starting role and have as much success as Nick Foles did this season. Orlovsky discusses how an older backup like Foles can help a team and how those types of players prepare themselves. 17:23 - Orlovsky analyzes Jerod Goff’s improvements from 2016 to 2017 and discusses how young struggling quarterbacks need to focus on being mentally strong.Orvlosky breaks down a pair of quarterbacks in the upcoming draft:19:44 - Lamar Jackson27:18 - Mason Rudolph28:06 - Logan WoodsideSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

30mins

6 Apr 2018

Rank #11

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Why playing 'sloppy' vs. Dolphins will actually be good for the Patriots

0:25 - Mike Giardi and Dan Koppen review the Patriots win over the Dolphins on Sunday, the undisciplined nature of Miami, and Kenny Stills comments after the game.3:35 - How Bill Belichick and the Patriots get players to remain disciplined, and if there was any moment of doubt that the Patriots would not win against the Dolphins.7:10 - Koppen explains why winning the game but playing sloppy will actually be good for the Patriots.12:25 - A discussion about Mike Tomlin’s interview, where he looked ahead and talked about the Patriots, 3 weeks before they play.15:05 - A breakdown of the Steelers team and if Tomlin talking and looking ahead to the Patriots will help or hurt them.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

20mins

27 Nov 2017

Rank #12

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Patriots advance to 7th straight AFC title game; Will Jaguars defense give Patriots trouble?

4:15 - Patriots going to 7th straight AFC title game. Mike Giardi and Dan Koppen discuss the ability for the Patriots to coach up their players and put them in a position to succeed.7:55 - Is Koppen finally buying into the Patriots defense and how Matt Patricia deserves more credit than he has been receiving.10:23 - Patriots offense started out a little bit slow against the Titans but then scored 35 unanswered points. Great job by Patriots offensive line giving Brady time and Brady's ability to move around in the pocket and create extra time.14:12 - AFC championship game preview vs. the Jaguars. How are the Jags in this position with Blake Bortles at quarterback? Jags have good running backs and will have same type of gameplan as the Titans. 16:40 - Leonard Fournette injured his ankle in Divisional Round game against the Steelers. How will that affect Jags playing style?17:58 - Breaking down how good the Jaguars defense is, ability to get to the quarterback while only rushing 4 players. How will the Patriots offensive line match up?23:55 - Patriots offense’s confidence is as high as it as been all season long.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

25mins

16 Jan 2018

Rank #13

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Next Pats Podcast: Is this the year the Patriots draft Brady’s heir apparent? Bruce Feldman discusses the 2019 QB class. Will Grier on why HE is the best QB in the draft

(:30) Phil Perry reports from the NFL Combine from Indianapolis the latest news and notes around the Patriots. (6:00) Phil Perry talks with Bruce Feldman, FOX Sports senior college football columnist. They discuss this draft’s QB class, and whether he thinks the Patriots will draft a QB. (15:00) Phil Perry talks with Will Grier who was the QB for the West Virginia Mountaineers. They discuss why Grier thinks he is the best QB in the draft, and why his struggles in Senior Bowl do not reflect his potential. (19:30) Wisconsin FB Alec Ingold discusses being one of the few fullbacks at the combine. How would he feel about joining the Patriots? and what does he think of the Patriots offense utilizing the fullback position. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

24mins

2 Mar 2019

Rank #14

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Rob Ninkovich attended the Bears game and accidentally dressed as an Eagles fan/ Ninkovich on how he would attack Chargers offense

Rob Ninkovich talks with Phil Perry about attending the Bears game this weekend, and why he was accidentally dressed as an Eagles fan. Ninkovich also breaks down the Patriots-Chargers game, and explains how he would attack the Chargers offense. (1:00) Rob Ninkovich was in attendance at the Chicago Bears game this weekend as a fan. He tells Phil Perry what it was like to see Bears fans deal with the crushing loss. (4:30) Ninkovich explains why he accidentally looked like an Eagles fan at the game (8:00) Patriots- Chargers preview, Ninkovich gives his key to a Patriots win. (12:30) How will Gus Bradley’s defensive schemes for Chargers give Tom Brady trouble? (21:00) Will we see a different Rob Gronkowski in the playoffs? (22:30) How can the Patriots defense slow down the Chargers offense? Ninkovich explains why he wouldn’t blitz Philip Rivers. (28:00) Rob Ninkovich predicts who will be the MVP of the Patriots-Chargers game. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

32mins

8 Jan 2019

Rank #15

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Get Ready for Another Ring; Nink is rescued on his roof by the fire department

Phil Perry and Rob Ninkovich are live in Atlanta getting you ready for Super Bowl 53. Nink starts off with story time on wearing his rings to NFL Media Night. Plus, Rob cleans his gutters, and is in need of rescue by the Foxborough fire department. (6:30) Rob and Phil discuss the match-up between the coaches. (8:30) Nink’s three keys to beating the Rams. (20:50) What do the Patriots need to do on offense against L.A.? (23:30) Should the Patriots expect a big game from Ndamokung Suh (30:05) The Patriots need to keep doing what they’re doing in the passing game (31:10) Don’t miss out on Rob’s Aqib Talib impression (33:00) Nink and Phil make their prediction.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

37mins

28 Jan 2019

Rank #16

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Rob Ninkovich on workouts with Julian Edelman, and why we should ease expectations

Phil Perry and Rob Ninkovich break down the Patriots huge win over the Dolphins, and what they can build off going forward. (3:30) How was the defense able to improve so much against the Dolphins? What did they do different? (6:00) How key was Dont’a Hightower’s performance to the dominance on defense? (13:00) How confident are we in the Patriots upcoming matchups?(15:00) How important was running the ball in the Patriots success? (17:30) What should our expectations be for Sony Michel? (19:30) Ninkovich explains why as a player he is not a fan of the Thursday Night games. (21:30) Why does Ninkovich think the Texans and the Colts are ‘soft’ (25:30) Rob Ninkovich talks about working out with Julian Edelman (30:00) Rob Ninkovich explains why he wants expectations on Julian Edelman to be low. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

36mins

2 Oct 2018

Rank #17

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Patriots beat Jets and earn first-round bye; Which team do you want to play in the divisional round?

4:10 - Patriots beat the Jets and get the first-round bye in the playoffs.6:20 - Did something click with Tom Brady? Did he get healthier from the previous week?. Rob Ninkovich says Brady just gained confidence.9:05 - Josh McDaniels and the Patriots adding the missile motions to the playbook. How are defenses going to prepare against it?14:10 - Patriots are using more two-back set than any team in football.19:20 - Are you feeling better about the Patriots run defense now?20:20 - Which team would you want to face in the divisional round: Texans, Ravens, or Chargers?23:10 - Vich of the Week - Trey Flowers. Do You Even Lift Bro? - Adrian Clayborn 26:30 - Phil Perry and Rob Ninkovich’s New Years Resolutions.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

28mins

1 Jan 2019

Rank #18

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Why does Bill Belichick love Iowa players so much? Hawkeyes strength and conditioning coach Chris Doyle explains

2:58 - Strength and conditioning coach for Iowa football Chris Doyle joins Phil Perry to discuss Bill Belichick's fascination with players from Iowa and what kind of traits his players develop that attract NFL coaches.8:26 - Chris explains how the program prepares Iowa players for the NFL and how he approaches both the combine and games with his players.14:19 - Phil asks Chris about a pair of tight ends out of Iowa, T.J. Hockenson and Noah Fant, and wonders how they would fit in the Patriots system.18:16 - Chris discusses the leadership of safety Amani Hooker and defensive lineman Anthony Nelson and how they represent the program.22:05 - Phil ends by asking Chris about wide receiver Nick Easley and his chances of making an NFL roster after being named MVP of the Outback Bowl.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

27mins

9 Apr 2019

Rank #19

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Genius or Insane? Draft Analyst Dane Brugler evaluates Phil's draft picks

2:03 - Phil Perry is joined by NFL Draft Analyst for The Athletic Dane Brugler to go over some of his prospective draft picks that are a little bit on the edge and Dane decides if the picks are genius or insane. They start with quarterbacks Daniel Jones, Ryan Finley, Easton Stick and Eric Dungey.8:45 - Phil and Dane move on to the potential receivers the Patriots could draft: N'Keal Harry, Terry McLaurin and Miles Boykin.14:19 - They finish up with Phil's picks at tight end: Irv Smith Jr., Jace Sternberger and Foster Moreau.23:54 - Phil takes us through his most recent Patriots-specific seven-round mock draft, this time introducing some scenarios in which the Patriots could trade up.30:42 - Phil answers a few mailbag questions, addressing possible safeties and receivers the Patriots could draft, whether or not they will pick up some veteran free agents and the possibility of moving up or down from the No. 32 pick in the draft.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

35mins

21 Mar 2019

Rank #20