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Working Without Pants - Creative Entrepreneurship

Working Without Pants is the podcast for agency owners and consultants who are wanting to win more clients and better clients for their business.Each week, Jake Jorgovan brings you interviews with industry leaders and experts on how to win more clients for your agency or consulting practice.Past guests have included Brennan Dunn, Brent Weaver, Kai Davis, Philip Morgan, Brian Casel, Blair Enns, and many more. Learn more at https://jake-jorgovan.com/podcast

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121: Winning new consulting clients with David A. Fields

David is the author of The Irresistible Consultant's The Guide to Winning Clientsand The Executive Guide To Consulting. He joins us on the podcast today to discuss how to get better at the sales part of consulting. David's background was on the corporate side of marketing research and sales. He then became a consultant with a boutique firm and worked his way up to partner and then branched off with a colleague to start his own consulting practice of their own. His partner departed after only a matter of weeks, leaving him without a rainmaker to bring in clients. Tune in to hear the story of what steps he took to turn himself into a rainmaker and learn about the consortium model that made him a successful expert writing guides on how to make sales in consulting. This episode will have you rethinking how you write emails to clients and you'll learn to avoid common pitfalls by anticipating client's responses and getting everything on the table while negotiating.

33mins

11 Dec 2018

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107: Why you should talk prospects out of working with you with Jonathan Stark

In this episode, we interview Jonathan Stark who is a business coach for independent software consultants. In this interview, we dive into Jonathan's background and how he found his super defined niche which enabled him to charge premium rates for his services. We also dive into this concept on why you should talk prospects out of working with you. It's a contrarian concept at first but by the end of this interview, I am confident you will agree.

47mins

5 Jun 2018

Rank #2

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125: 7 Linkedin Outreach Frameworks that generate results Part 1

Part 1: Frameworks 1-3 At Lead Cookie, we have run over 150 Linkedin outreach campaigns. Each one for has different value propositions for different types of businesses. Through these campaigns, we have come across 7 core frameworks that we use over and over again to generate results for our clients. In this podcast, I am going to share each of these frameworks in more detail and provide you with some examples. Blog: 7 Linkedin Outreach Frameworks that Generate Results

26mins

22 Jan 2019

Rank #3

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124: My plan for Zero to $60k in 90 days for my new business

This week's podcast is a special solo episode which I'm also recording for my Youtube channel. After 18 months of building a productized Linkedin Lead Generation service up to ~$60k in MRR, I've decided that it's time to start a second business. In this podcast I am going to talk about my new venture and my 90 day plan to go from zero to $60k in collected revenue. And over the next 90 days, I am going to be sharing the journey and updates along the way as we strive toward and hit this $60k collected goal in Q1 of 2019. 

24mins

16 Jan 2019

Rank #4

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135: $0-2M ARR content agency in less than 24 months with Nat Eliason

In this week's episode, I talk with Nat Eliason, CEO & Founder of Growth Machine. Using a “systems-first” approach and by producing great content, he quickly grew this business from zero to 2 million ARR in less than 2 years and now has a 10-person team working around the U.S.   Growth Machine is an SEO-focused content marketing agency that mostly works with eCommerce and tech companies by managing their blog content production.    With ad costs increasing, more businesses are looking for someone who can create, optimize, and promote content, while also giving them the best chance of ranking high in Google searches. With high-quality writers that consistently meet deadlines and by following a very structured system, Growth Machine delivers great results for their clients.    Listen in to hear a robust episode full of valuable information. Nat also wraps up with two important suggestions for anyone in the early stages of starting their own content business. Break out your notepad and pen for this one, folks!

39mins

18 Jul 2019

Rank #5

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137: Building a 35+ person remote content agency with Devin Bramhall of Animalz

In this noteworthy episode, I sit down with Devin Bramhall , Director of Marketing with Animalz, a content marketing agency that works with huge name customers. It was founded as a co-located company in NYC by a man named Walter Chen. Because the best talent isn’t all in one location, the team has expanded to more than 35 people spread across the world who wanted both structure and freedom in their lives. Walter brought Devin and her team on to run this company, and by providing the space these leaders need along with a solid infrastructure in place, the business took off and major growth happened just within the last year.   Quality work is so important in this business, so Animalz takes several approaches to be sure this can happen. They invest heavily in their people, within the company, and with their clients. For Animalz, it was important to create a repeatable structure to follow.  And with training, a lot of investment into the clients, and digging into each subject matter, quality is then built into the process. Animalz will model their work as if they are embedded in each company, as a content marketer working there. They also do everything possible to align with the customer throughout the entire process.   For anyone building up their agency, this is a great episode to listen to! Devin dives into the importance of having a repeatable process in place, keeping the creatives within your company motivated to produce high-quality work, and how to keep your clients engaged throughout the process. Hear how she ensures a relationship is built with the client and how to get them to commit to the process before even starting on content.  Here we go…

45mins

1 Aug 2019

Rank #6

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105: Recurring revenue with Brent Weaver

In this episode, we talk all about how to generate recurring revenue for your agency with Brent Weaver of uGurus. Brent has some incredible and actionable insights that any agency or consulting firm can begin using immediately to start generating more recurring revenue for your business.

43mins

22 May 2018

Rank #7

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155: Building a Valuable Company with John Warrillow

Why is it so important to start thinking about what acquisition looks like for your business? You’ll want to find out here in this episode with John Warrillow. John is the Founder and President of The Value Builder System and author of the books "The Automatic Customer: Creating a Subscription Business In Any Industry" and "Built to Sell: Creating a Business That Can Thrive Without You.”    Knowing what your intentions are for your business is of the utmost importance. If you want your company to be valuable, or transferable, it has to be able to run without you. Even if you are not planning to sell, this may trigger some lightbulbs for your business and help steer you on the right path for long-term mentality.   I’ve received a ton of value from reading John’s books that caused a huge mindset shift for me, and so I was honored to have the chance of interviewing him. This episode is recommended for anyone going down a productized service path and, I promise, this will change your perspective on your business. We discuss what “Deal Momentum” is and you’ll want to hear this! And don’t forget to check out ValueBuilder.com to learn more.

36mins

20 Feb 2020

Rank #8

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145: Million Dollar Consulting with Alan Weiss

In this week’s episode, join me in hearing tons of advice from Alan Weiss, author of a phenomenal book called “Million Dollar Consulting,” or as I like to call it, The “Bible” of Consulting, which is one of numerous books and articles he’s written. Alan is also the owner of Summit Consulting Group that provides management consulting services to clients across the globe.    During Alan’s professional journey, he quickly learned he could charge for the value of his consulting services, to which he’s pioneered value-based fees. Alan is also all about simplifying everything to place more speed on doing business and getting results. Overcomplicating processes won’t grow your business. Alan hones in on his core values of focusing on what’s important and why you should “carve away everything that doesn’t look like a career.”   The “Million Dollar Consulting” book is at the heart of everything I learned to start my businesses- my mindset, the tactics, the concepts behind charging for value, and more. Listen here to get more insight and tons of value out of this. And don’t forget to check out Alan Weiss.com, where you can find his blog and free articles, videos, audios, and locations for his next attendance.

39mins

7 Nov 2019

Rank #9

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157: Book Yourself Solid with Matthew Kimberley

Matthew Kimberley pours out some amazing insights in this week’s episode that you won’t want to miss! With a background in sales and as an author himself, Matthew has also taken over the entire program called Book Yourself Solid, which was originally created and written by Michael Port.   With Book Yourself Solid, Matthew helps business owners figure out what path is right for them. The book offers frameworks for you to think through this and what fundamental principles and mindset you can apply to reach your business goals. If you need to convert or generate leads, Michael can help you, so long as you are actively doing these things somehow.  It’s about strategies verse the tactics- this is truly an interesting outlook on how you should question your motives.    If people pay you for your time and your expertise, this book and this episode are for you! There are so many great pieces of advice that Matthew dives into here that are both exciting and thoughtful. I realized there are different ways to think about growth for your business… and it’s not always about more money.

40mins

4 Mar 2020

Rank #10

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110: Generate Leads on Linkedin with Wayne Breitbarth

Wayne has been in this game since the early days of LinkedIn. His interest started off as a hobby but when he realized people were really attentive when engaging in public speaking on the topic, he teamed up with his wife to write a book about it. The Power Formula for LinkedIn is now on its 4th Edition and has sold over 100,000 copies. When Wayne first meets with clients (organizations, individuals, colleges and universities, and especially sales teams) all he has to do is show them how to do a basic advanced search and already they are impressed - that's how little people know about the platform! In Wayne's words: "LinkedIn is interesting and can go so many ways because it all comes down to the database it provides access to." In this episode we dive into some unique tactics and business growth methods that you wouldn't normally think about. For instance, have you considered looking into alumni from your school to start seeking leads? Tune in to hear actionable tips and insights on ways to generate more leads and business opportunities through LinkedIn.

37mins

12 Sep 2018

Rank #11

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154: 10x sales with David Ledgerwood

Wherever “Ledge” goes, sales go up! Join this week’s episode to hear what I mean by this and get some great insight into taking leads and rocking a sales execution to help grow your revenue. David Ledgerwood, Managing Partner at Add1Zero, is someone I’ve known for years and I refer to as “Ledge” here. He and his team use a proven process for a 6 to 7-digit annual growth by providing sales strategy, execution, and ops to their clients.    Learn about the “secret sauce” Ledge speaks of here! It’s great. In fact, I just took a lot of notes while interviewing him and have action items I am excited to try.  I have already quadrupled my own sales by working with Ledge before. This is truly insightful and I think you will get tons from this episode, so hurry now and give it a listen.

54mins

13 Feb 2020

Rank #12

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143: Self-reliance with John Jantsch

Catch this week’s episode with John Jantsch, President at Duct Tape Marketing and author of his newest book I’m already loving called “The Self-Reliant Entrepreneur.” John has appeared on here before, and with his years and expertise in small business marketing, it’s a no-brainer to bring him back on the podcast now that he has published his sixth book. This book is a bit different than his first five that are all about how-to-do marketing. But “The Self-Reliant Entrepreneur” is structured more as a daily-read with a new meditational message for each day you turn a new page. Each entry shares a message or excerpt that comes from entrepreneurial writings from the 19th Century time period when “thinking for yourself” became more prominent during a time of political and cultural differences in the U.S. John gets his reader to take a bit of a more philosophical look at themselves, adds his own thoughts, and then follows that up with a question to challenge someone for that day. The “Self-Reliant Entrepreneur” was just released this week, and I highly recommend everyone take a read. I am already applying this to my life and my business and can see I’ll be getting value from this for years to come as well. I know you will too. You can find your copy online or in any of your local bookstores. But first, listen here for some insight from John himself and get a sneak peek into the Jan 1st entry as John narrates straight out of the book. You’re going to like this one!

39mins

24 Oct 2019

Rank #13

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140: Marketing for consultants with Michael Zipursky

In this week’s eye-opening episode, I dive into a great interview with Michael Zipursky, coach and CEO of Consulting Success.  With a background in building and consulting businesses in North America and with multibillion-dollar businesses in Japan, he’s developed a coaching program that began as a blog and then morphed into what is now helping hundreds of consultants build successful businesses by adding six to seven figures to their annual revenues.    You may notice a familiar face here because I’ve interviewed Michael before. I’ve brought him back because recently his company conducted a Marketing for Consultants Study that I find fascinating and is full of valuable information and which marketing techniques can help build a successful business.   In this detailed study, 34,000 consultants were surveyed to find out what is actually working in their marketing techniques- what tactics they’re using and getting results from. The survey identifies and compares what high-performing consultants are doing vs low-performing consultants. Learn what the best practices are that we can all benefit from. For instance, what type of marketing works best and how much should you invest in marketing? Michael and I discuss in detail how you can shift your mindset for marketing costs from an expense to an investment. We’ll dive into some data from the survey to help give you a better understanding of what others are “investing.”    We also explore network effects, the simplicity of a phone call, and other marketing tactics that you may or may not already be using. Where should you be putting your money in when it comes to marketing? Listen here to find out and explore more on the survey at https://www.consultingsuccess.com/marketing-for-consultants-study.

41mins

2 Oct 2019

Rank #14

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146: Grow your business through speaking with Carol Cox

If you’ve been thinking about speaking as an avenue to grow your business, join me In this week’s episode with Carol Cox, Founder and CEO of Speaking Your Brand. Carol is an expert at coaching entrepreneurs and executives on how to launch and build their speaking career for short-term, and long-term, results.   Carol reminds us just how valuable speaking engagements and being around people truly are these days. With all of the social media, content creation, and all the “followers” people obtain, we all forget just how impactful it can be when you meet and learn from someone in person. We discuss in detail how narrowing down your focus of topic to a very specific niche can really make you stand out from everyone else. Carol dives into some great tips on how to market yourself as a speaker and how people can inquire about you so that you can get premium and paid engagements.    Listen in to find out how you can get a free guide if you’d like more information on how speaking can help grow your business. You can also listen in to Carol’s podcast where she talks about all things related to speaking- from content to lead generation, and from sales to monetizing your speeches. Enjoy!

41mins

14 Nov 2019

Rank #15

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144: Predictions on the future of LinkedIn

What is the future of LinkedIn? This question comes up a lot in conversations with friends, podcast hosts, prospects, and peers.   LinkedIn, as a platform, is becoming the epicenter of business communication. B2B marketers and sales teams are flocking to the platform, and in a post-GDPR world, it has become one of the most reliable and powerful sales channels.   But what is to come? As the founder of one of the top LinkedIn lead generation companies, I am very close to the platform. Our team has seen the platform evolve and grow. I have spoken to individuals on LinkedIn's advisory board and I have heard many rumors of discussions from others in the industry.   What I am predicting here is not fact or am I 100% certain of this. But I have a decent level of confidence in these predictions and so I am sharing them in hopes they bring you value. Join me in today's solo episode as I dive into my 8 predictions for the future of LinkedIn!

26mins

30 Oct 2019

Rank #16

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142: Hiring your first salesperson with Damian Thompson

If you’re thinking about hiring a salesperson for your business, you NEED to give this episode a listen. Damian Thompson and I discuss the reasons behind why we cringe when someone says, “I’ve got a sales problem- so I’m going to hire a salesperson.” This is the wrong mindset!    Damian is the Founder & Chief Training Officer of Salesability. He’s been involved in software services and consultative selling since the mid-to-late 90s, so he knows a thing or two when it comes to when, or why, you should be hiring a salesperson. He’s always been “that” guy who was sent off to start selling and building a team in different locations around the world. He’s helped countless amounts of people who were small business owners who didn’t see themselves as a salesperson but needed to utilize sales to grow their business.   Trust me when I say this episode is extremely important to listen to and will change your perspective when thinking about sales for your business. There’s a robust amount of information here- everything from “why” you want to hire a salesperson, the misunderstandings people have about a salesperson’s role in your business, to the processes you should have in place when hiring one.  This is a subject I feel passionate about and hope you will find this truly useful for your business.

49mins

18 Oct 2019

Rank #17