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Working Without Pants is the podcast for agency owners and consultants who are wanting to win more clients and better clients for their business.Each week, Jake Jorgovan brings you interviews with industry leaders and experts on how to win more clients for your agency or consulting practice.Past guests have included Brennan Dunn, Brent Weaver, Kai Davis, Philip Morgan, Brian Casel, Blair Enns, and many more. Learn more at https://jake-jorgovan.com/podcast

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Working Without Pants is the podcast for agency owners and consultants who are wanting to win more clients and better clients for their business.Each week, Jake Jorgovan brings you interviews with industry leaders and experts on how to win more clients for your agency or consulting practice.Past guests have included Brennan Dunn, Brent Weaver, Kai Davis, Philip Morgan, Brian Casel, Blair Enns, and many more. Learn more at https://jake-jorgovan.com/podcast

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Awesome show, highly recommend!

By J. Barshop - May 30 2018
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Jake and his guests provide some incredibly compelling and actionable content on how to effectively grow your consulting business / agency, without draining your bank account (and well-being) Highly recommend listening and subscribing to Working Without Pants if you want the knowledge and mindsets to navigate the many complexities that come with this line of work (and reach your overall business goals as a result)!

Great podcast

By رنا الكوفي - Dec 18 2014
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I strongly recommend this podcast for anybody want to start a freelancing career.

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Awesome show, highly recommend!

By J. Barshop - May 30 2018
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Jake and his guests provide some incredibly compelling and actionable content on how to effectively grow your consulting business / agency, without draining your bank account (and well-being) Highly recommend listening and subscribing to Working Without Pants if you want the knowledge and mindsets to navigate the many complexities that come with this line of work (and reach your overall business goals as a result)!

Great podcast

By رنا الكوفي - Dec 18 2014
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I strongly recommend this podcast for anybody want to start a freelancing career.
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Working Without Pants is the podcast for agency owners and consultants who are wanting to win more clients and better clients for their business.Each week, Jake Jorgovan brings you interviews with industry leaders and experts on how to win more clients for your agency or consulting practice.Past guests have included Brennan Dunn, Brent Weaver, Kai Davis, Philip Morgan, Brian Casel, Blair Enns, and many more. Learn more at https://jake-jorgovan.com/podcast

Rank #1: How to generate leads on Linkedin - Part 1

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Welcome to the first of a 3-part solo series on Linkedin prospecting.

As you know, one of the main areas I focus on is helping agencies and consultants get new clients. While I used LinkedIn a lot for research, I didn’t really know much about using it for lead generation.

I decided to change that, and after implementing tactics and strategies to do this, I had 40 strong leads and closed at least $30,000 in business in just a few months.

In this episode, I’m going to talk about profile optimization and how to ramp up traffic to your LinkedIn profile.

For full show notes go to jake-jorgovan.com/podcast/095 ... This episode is sponsored by Outbound Creative

Outbound Creative helps agencies and consultancies win their dream clients through eye-catching outreach campaigns. Learn more at OutboundCreative.com

Oct 05 2017

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Rank #2: 142: Hiring your first salesperson with Damian Thompson

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If you’re thinking about hiring a salesperson for your business, you NEED to give this episode a listen. Damian Thompson and I discuss the reasons behind why we cringe when someone says, “I’ve got a sales problem- so I’m going to hire a salesperson.” This is the wrong mindset!    Damian is the Founder & Chief Training Officer of Salesability. He’s been involved in software services and consultative selling since the mid-to-late 90s, so he knows a thing or two when it comes to when, or why, you should be hiring a salesperson. He’s always been “that” guy who was sent off to start selling and building a team in different locations around the world. He’s helped countless amounts of people who were small business owners who didn’t see themselves as a salesperson but needed to utilize sales to grow their business.   Trust me when I say this episode is extremely important to listen to and will change your perspective when thinking about sales for your business. There’s a robust amount of information here- everything from “why” you want to hire a salesperson, the misunderstandings people have about a salesperson’s role in your business, to the processes you should have in place when hiring one.  This is a subject I feel passionate about and hope you will find this truly useful for your business.

Oct 18 2019

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Rank #3: 060: Implementing the Rockefeller Habits with Andy Bailey

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If your business is not utilizing the Rockefeller Habits, then listen up because this episode is for you.

Over the course of my career, I have noticed a consistent trend across all of my best clients and successful entrepreneurs.

All of them are implementing the Rockefeller Habits.

That consistent trend I have seen across my best clients has lead me to asking Andy to come on the show. Andy is the CEO of Petra Coach which is a coaching and consulting company that helps firms implement the Rockefeller Habits.

In this interview, Andy explains what the Rockefeller Habits are. The key components, and why all companies should consider implementing these practices.

If you aren’t using the Rockefeller Habit’s already, then I highly recommend you listen to this interview and also check out many of the free resources on Andy’s website.

Mar 22 2016

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Rank #4: Badass branding and packaging services with Pia Silva

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Pia Silva and her partner are the owners of Worstofall Design, an agency that builds badass brands without the bullshit.

Pia's model is extremely unique. Instead of being a traditional branding agency, her and her partner work in a unique way. They do 1-2 day intensive branding sessions with their clients called "BrandUps" where they build the client’s entire brand and strategy right there in person.

They charge $10k per Brandup and regularly schedule 3 of these per month. That means in roughly 6 working days per month, Pia and her partner generate $30k in revenue!

In this interview, we dive into how Pia created this model, and how others can use elements of this in their own business.

For full show notes go to jake-jorgovan.com/podcast/080 ...

This episode is sponsored by Outbound Creative

Outbound Creative helps agencies and consultancies win their dream clients through eye-catching outreach campaigns. Learn more at OutboundCreative.com

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Mar 07 2017

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Rank #5: 135: $0-2M ARR content agency in less than 24 months with Nat Eliason

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In this week's episode, I talk with Nat Eliason, CEO & Founder of Growth Machine. Using a “systems-first” approach and by producing great content, he quickly grew this business from zero to 2 million ARR in less than 2 years and now has a 10-person team working around the U.S.   Growth Machine is an SEO-focused content marketing agency that mostly works with eCommerce and tech companies by managing their blog content production.    With ad costs increasing, more businesses are looking for someone who can create, optimize, and promote content, while also giving them the best chance of ranking high in Google searches. With high-quality writers that consistently meet deadlines and by following a very structured system, Growth Machine delivers great results for their clients.    Listen in to hear a robust episode full of valuable information. Nat also wraps up with two important suggestions for anyone in the early stages of starting their own content business. Break out your notepad and pen for this one, folks!

Jul 18 2019

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Rank #6: Business development for agencies with Drew McLellan

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On the podcast this week, I had Drew McLellan of the Agency Management Institute.

If you are an agency, and you haven’t heard of the Agency Management Institute, you should definitely check them out. They come alongside small to mid-sized agencies to help them run their businesses better.

Drew has been an agency owner for over 20 years now, and has a lot of experience with what makes agencies work well. In this episode, we talk about getting new clients and keeping current clients happy.

I hope you enjoy this interview as much as I do and that you can walk away with some ideas of how to keep your sales pipeline steady.

For full show notes go to jake-jorgovan.com/podcast/084 ... This episode is sponsored by Outbound Creative Outbound Creative helps agencies and consultancies win their dream clients through eye-catching outreach campaigns. Learn more at OutboundCreative.com. WinYourDreamClients.com

May 09 2017

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Rank #7: 072: Russ Perry on starting and scaling a productized design service

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Russ Perry is the founder of Design Pickle, a productized graphic design service. 

Design Pickle can free up your marketing team to work on bigger initiatives, while they take care of things like business cards, brochures, posters, etc. It’s amazingly simple: just sign up and get matched with a dedicated designer for unlimited designs at a flat rate of $370/mo.

You’ll really get some value out of this episode if you want to productize a service. We dive into how Russ started Design Pickle, scaled it to over $100K in monthly recurring revenue in 1.5 years, challenges he’s faced and big insights/ideas he’s discovered. His thought process in starting the business was fascinating.

 

Highlights of this episode: 

[3:25] Scratching an itch: After closing his agency, Russ sought a simple way to find vetted help for quick graphic design work (ie, business cards, brochures, etc). As a consultant, he developed a system for doing this stuff (ie, business). His clients were having success with it, so he moved into branding this service and launching it to the public. Plus, Russ loves pickles. So, voila, Design Pickle.

[6:00] Starting DP was really scary. Russ was facing unemployment and dreaded getting a job. He thought long and hard about what kind of lifestyle he desired. As a consultant, he discovered that managing production design met most of his lifestyle requirements. The business structure really came out of this clarity about his ideal lifestyle.

[9:25] A financial model is the only business plan you need (how you will make money). Russ discusses how he priced the service, and quickly raised prices, allowing for investments in growth.

[11:40] To acquire initial customers, start with a very simple solution. Then it’s all about getting out there and communicating that value. Russ was the best spammer alive. Almost got kicked out of a professional organization for it. Also, be profitable, so you can invest in strategic growth opportunities.

[14:15] In less than two years, Design Pickle has steadily and consistently grown to over $100K MRR, 1000 signups and 380 active users!

[15:15] Lessons from running a crappy business, and having a strong culture, has allowed Russ to grow the business so quickly. It’s all about the people. Keep it simple and stay the course!

[18:15] On avoiding going into other directions...Why not start CopyCucumber.com? Because he’s barely scratched the surface with Design Pickle.

[19:25] Being removed from day-to-day tasks is huge in ensuring the ship is running smoothly and in moving things forward. Russ’s role: Mechanic of the Pickle Machine, Voice of the Brand, Front Line of Sales, Strategic Navigator.

[21:10] On managing a team across the world. Besides the 2 others in Arizona, all the designers and managers are in the Philippines. The team is like a family, though, Russ realized when he was able to go to Philippines for the first time. Moving forward, he’ll be investing in meetups, conferences.

[24:20] Clients’ deserve respect and to be shown that their work is important. Put your all into the work and build relationships.  

[26:15] To grow your agency, get out and meet people in the flesh. Be real. Russ’s secret: he goes to conferences and gives out free pickles. People eat them up.  

[28:20] Everyone want to have fun, connect with real people. Plus, engaging people with authenticity and developing real relationships helps if things go sideways.

[29:40] Going forward, it’s all about finding more people they can help, taking the time to reach them, and communicating the value in Design Pickle.

[32:30] Cash flow is a challenge in expanding with sales/marketing/advertising. Always stay ahead of hiring, so you can handle the work if you take on new clients. The current model can handle doubling or tripling, but beyond that, it may need investments in software and other things to continue growing.

[35:25]Design Pickle offers a 14-day, risk-free trial. If you email Russ and let him know you signed up from the podcast, you’ll get a free pickle!

[37:10] For agencies: You can use DP for client work...but Russ recommends getting a feel first, so the team can get to know you and your brand before taking on your client work.

Learn More:  This episode is sponsored by Outbound Creative

Outbound Creative helps agencies and consultancies win their dream clients through eye-catching outreach campaigns. Learn more at OutboundCreative.com

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Sep 29 2016

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Rank #8: 070: David Reske on building a digital marketing agency

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David Reske is the founder and CEO of digital marketing agency Nowspeed.

He’s built a phenomenal business over the last 10-15 years. David is incredibly clearheaded and sophisticated about Nowspeed. But the journey has not been without challenges.

In this episode, we discuss his business, what's works, and what hasn't.

Highlights of this episode: 

[3:15] The kind of people you hire creates the kind of atmosphere and culture your company will have.

[3:50] Nowspeed has evolved over the years to use whatever tools are available to drive engagement, traffic and leads.

[5:00] Dave started the company with his wife, which offers great flexibility for her as a working mother. But, leave business outside the shower!

[7:20] The digital marketing landscape has grown much more sophisticated, and it’s much harder now to land the big boys as clients.

[9:00] Nowspeed differentiates itself through platinum level service and expertise that goes beyond the capabilities of most internal marketing teams.

[12:30] In his business, Dave works primarily as strategist, accountability partner, business developer, management coach, and process/service tweaker.

[14:10] It’s risky for a service business to have one customer account for a large portion of the business.

[15:25] The way Nowspeed is structured, account leads communicate and work with clients and strategy, and they manage a team of experts who work in their particular expertise to execute the campaigns.

[17:10] There’s no magic bullet to getting work. They do the stuff they offer- inbound/content marketing,  SEO, PPC, social media- to drive leads. But they are also very active in partnering with other agencies/consultants to drive referrals.

[19:20] Dave spends half of his time doing strategic sales/business development. They only reach out locally, but they have leads/clients from all over the US/world.

[20:45] Dave loves integrating all the pieces of the puzzle.

[22:18] Hiring when desperate = Big Mistake! Instead, Nowspeed hires (mainly fresh college grads) and trains in classes.

[26:30] You don’t know what systems/process you need, until you really NEED them. So it’s a continuous evolution, discovering new challenges/things that need fixing. It helps to get your team involved in this.

 

Resources Mentioned in this Episode:  This episode is sponsored by Outbound Creative

Outbound Creative helps agencies and consultancies win their dream clients through eye-catching outreach campaigns. Learn more at OutboundCreative.com

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Sep 14 2016

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Rank #9: Strategic partnerships with Michael Sacca of Crew

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On this episode of Working Without Pants, I had the pleasure of interviewing the former President of Crew, Michael Sacca. When Michael came to Crew, he was the head of partnerships, and we get to talk a lot about how he worked on creating valuable partnerships in that role.

We also get an in-depth look at some of his outbound campaigns and how he crafted these to best reach his audience.

This was a fun interview with a ton of insight, and I hope you enjoy it as much as I did.

For full show notes go to jake-jorgovan.com/podcast/081 ...

This episode is sponsored by Outbound Creative

Outbound Creative helps agencies and consultancies win their dream clients through eye-catching outreach campaigns. Learn more at OutboundCreative.com

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Apr 17 2017

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Rank #10: 125: 7 Linkedin Outreach Frameworks that generate results Part 1

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Part 1: Frameworks 1-3

At Lead Cookie, we have run over 150 Linkedin outreach campaigns. Each one for has different value propositions for different types of businesses. Through these campaigns, we have come across 7 core frameworks that we use over and over again to generate results for our clients. In this podcast, I am going to share each of these frameworks in more detail and provide you with some examples.

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Jan 22 2019

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Rank #11: 123: Building a content marketing agency with Say Gabriel

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In this episode, I speak with Say Gabriel of Anansi Content Solutions. Anansi helps businesses or organizations connect with the people who want to throw money at them! This is done through effective communication and content.

Say's work revolves around being the bridge between the creative empathic space of understanding the people served and what they need and value by creating positioning statements and messaging around a company's brand so that people can reach them and connect with them. Just hearing this description, which essentially defines Content Marketing, gives you an idea of the power of choose the right words to convey meaning.

Communication skills sit at the core of a good business, tune in to hear about Say's work, including how she creates content and acquires customers.

Jan 12 2019

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Rank #12: 144: Predictions on the future of LinkedIn

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What is the future of LinkedIn? This question comes up a lot in conversations with friends, podcast hosts, prospects, and peers.   LinkedIn, as a platform, is becoming the epicenter of business communication. B2B marketers and sales teams are flocking to the platform, and in a post-GDPR world, it has become one of the most reliable and powerful sales channels.   But what is to come? As the founder of one of the top LinkedIn lead generation companies, I am very close to the platform. Our team has seen the platform evolve and grow. I have spoken to individuals on LinkedIn's advisory board and I have heard many rumors of discussions from others in the industry.   What I am predicting here is not fact or am I 100% certain of this. But I have a decent level of confidence in these predictions and so I am sharing them in hopes they bring you value. Join me in today's solo episode as I dive into my 8 predictions for the future of LinkedIn!

Oct 30 2019

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Rank #13: Building a boutique 2-person consultancy with Bright Umbrella

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I recently attended the HOW Design Live Conference and had the opportunity to meet up with Lea and Emily from Bright Umbrella. Bright Umbrella is a 2-person design and development agency that focuses on the education sector.   In our interview, I got to talk to Lea and Emily about how they started out, what they have learned, and some of the things they are doing to grow their business today. For full show notes go to jake-jorgovan.com/podcast/089 ... This episode is sponsored by Outbound Creative Outbound Creative helps agencies and consultancies win their dream clients through eye-catching outreach campaigns. Learn more at OutboundCreative.com

Jun 20 2017

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Rank #14: 071: Jason Swenk on starting, scaling and selling a digital agency

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After growing Solar Velocity from nothing to an 8-figure agency, selling it and getting bored on the beach, Jason Swenk began helping other agency owners. He now teaches the lessons he’s learned along the way at JasonSwenk.com

Jason shares his incredible insights in this episode, oozing with his spunky personality. 

 

Highlights of this episode: 

[4:10] It all started with a NSync parody site, then he started making $500 websites, quit his job at Arthur Andersen before they destroyed the world, and in 2-3 years was making $200K websites. So thanks Justin Timberlake!

[6:00] The company really took off once he started examining what we didn’t want to do (working with clients), and put systems in place so the business could go on without him.

[7:20] He kept upgrading the offerings based on what clients needed. As your price increases, so too does the need to communicate how you are unique.

[8:40] To really scale, the Agency Owner (does everything) needs to transition to the Agency CEO (focuses on vision, strategy, coaching). The first step is hiring a project manager!

[11:50] Assume you’re project manager will screw up. If you’re scared of that, get out of business. Jason encourages (one-time) failures for learning purposes. Systems>>Talent.

[14:30] Everyone on his team took personality tests, and they tried to find people to fill in the gaps. It’s more important that a new hire shares the company’s core values, then technical know-how. Value-based hiring led to Solar Velocity’s becoming the Best Place to Work in Atlanta, which snowballed into better & better people applying.

[16:20] He replaced Quarterly Reviews with Quarterly Coaching, because employers are your #1 asset, so management’s job is not to condemn, but to help make employees better and achieve their goals. Your office environment should reflect your personality. Be yourself. He made a fun environment, and those that didn’t like it could leave.

[19:20] Growth revolved around generating the pipeline through 1) strategic partnerships (not just trading leads, but building practice areas to specialize in), 1) outbound strategy, and 2) inbound strategy (gotta capture that info!) and 3) strategic partnerships- which is not just trading leads, but actually building practice areas to specialize in. They specialized in Sitefinity.

[22:00] Partner with an up-and-coming technology (not Wordpress or Facebook). Help them out before expecting anything in return. That’s what they did with Sitefinity- when they had success with it for a client, they made a case study to help Sitefinity communicate their value better. So Finity sent them Hitachi, Legalzoom, and other amazing clients.

[24:35] Successful people make money, but significant people affect other people/businesses by helping, not just taking...Helping>>Selling

[25:40] Don’t reach out to everyone. Go after a select few. Do extensive research. Think about who would need your service (ie, companies spending $10K+ on AdWords)? Provide value in the initial touch, and make a foot-in-the-door offer. DO NOT SEND A PROPOSAL!

[31:40] Chances of making money are 20X after they buy the foot-in-the-door offer, and you can qualify them. There is no bad agency client...only a bad prospect or a bad process.

[32:20] Building processes is about diving deep after a project is completed, to see what went right and what went wrong. Map it out and make adjustments. It takes a lot of f**k-ups.

[33:45] “If something were to happen to me, would this company survive?” worried Jason. Employees are like family, so it’s not just about you.

[35:15] Jason assisted with sales, just to bring in his colorful personality and make sure everyone was doing their job.

[36:10] They sold the business to a strategic partner who wanted to get into what Solar Velocity was doing. Only 0.25% of agencies get sold, so don’t feel like that is what it takes to “make it.” Money doesn’t ensure happiness.

[37:00] When considering selling, if they ask you questions, ask the same questions to them. And if people start asking to buy on the low, go through the process and learn from it. It won’t hurt, as long as you don’t give up valuable secrets. ​

[38:55] If you don’t like the offer, stop there or waste your time. And he explains how to tell if the buyers are serious, or they just want to steal your secret sauce. And don’t get too excited during the due diligence phase--that’s when most agencies go out of business, so assume it won’t go through.

[40:45] After selling, Jason was out in 9 months. He never got his earn out (losing millions), but he learned a valuable lesson and has made that money back by teaching other agency owners through his mistakes.

[41:40] Earnouts are based on growth rate and profit margin. Agencies between $2-10M are hard to sell. Don’t sell if you’re making bank.

[44:10] So why did Jason sell? The business outgrew his partner, and he got bored and wanted something new.

[44:40] Nowadays, he helps agency owners scale, teaching them how we started, grew and sold his agency. His goal is to be the #1 resource in the world for agency owners. Check out his podcast, video show, and the Agency Playbook (12 systems to scale and grow your agency).

[47:15] Jason doesn't read. He learns from doing & failing. Just wing it.

 

Resources Mentioned in this Episode:  This episode is sponsored by Outbound Creative

Outbound Creative helps agencies and consultancies win their dream clients through eye-catching outreach campaigns. Learn more at OutboundCreative.com

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Sep 21 2016

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Rank #15: 067: Ben Lee on productizing the discovery process

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Ben Lee is the founder and CEO of Neon Roots, an award-winning agile development agency.

Interestingly, the majority Neon Roots’ revenue does not come from actual developing, but rather from their discovery program, called Rootstrap, which guides entrepreneurs from the vaguest idea of an app, to a development-ready prototype.

Ben dives into how Rootstrap took on a life of it’s own, why discovery is so important, his untraditional sales team and other insights into how he’s built his business.

Highlights of this episode:

[2:20] Ben has to wear pants at work now, but he did work with Snoop Dogg’s management company before moving to his new location in West Hollywood, and he talks about random run-ins with celebrities

[4:55] He and his co-founder started Neon Roots to challenge the traditional agency model, and actually practice what is preached about agile methods, lean startup, etc.

[6:00] He discusses the bloated, risk-avoidant and unhappy lifestyle common in the service industry, and how he ditched it to start something new- pioneering AR/VR before the market was ready

[7:15] Story carding and discovery was a way to qualify clients, manage expectations, and truly aligned interests- and was incredibly successful

[10:27] How the Rootstrap offer evolved, and how it was influenced by Ben’s background in hospitality

[13:50] He discusses the psychology that goes into the Rootstrap customer experience

[16:00] The Rootstrap Swag Box is a powerful component of the whole experience, triggering positive emotions, and taking on a life of its own as a storytelling mechanism- whether it’s for a 23 year-old first time entrepreneur or Tony Robbins

[19:10] Competitors talk about the Swag Box

[19:37] Discovery and other engagement activities after kickoff are all about providing value to the customer

[21:45] Rootstrap has built a reputation among VCs, from whom they get a lot of deal flow

[22:13] Brand grows in thought-leadership

[23:30] He doesn’t hire sales people, but many former participants sell for him by simply sharing their stories

[25:10] Offering free advice over the phone for young entrepreneurs who aren’t yet a good fit is great for building relationships, which have resulted in referrals several years later

[29:20] Embarrassing sleazy sales guy vs the former participants who aren’t sure their confident enough for sales

[30:39] The sales cycle involves less commitment, or going on dates before you get engaged

[32:35] They (over)deliver so much value that other agencies resell Rootstrap

[33:05] Rootstrap vs ongoing consulting, and why many Rootstrap participants don’t convert because they don’t have an internal dev team or they need help fundraising

[35:18] The solution to a hybrid agency is proper siloing. Going forward, Neon Roots will be doing more creative stuff, which can happen because the service side is completely separate- plus Rootstrap Studios in Uruguay

[40:40] Ben gives his words of wisdom to agency owners to build their way up and increase sales

[42:25] You can reformulate lean/agile methods to any industry/business

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Aug 19 2016

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Rank #16: 107: Why you should talk prospects out of working with you with Jonathan Stark

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In this episode, we interview Jonathan Stark who is a business coach for independent software consultants.

In this interview, we dive into Jonathan's background and how he found his super defined niche which enabled him to charge premium rates for his services.

We also dive into this concept on why you should talk prospects out of working with you. It's a contrarian concept at first but by the end of this interview, I am confident you will agree.

Jun 05 2018

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Rank #17: How to generate leads on Linkedin - Part 2

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This is part 2 in our 3-part series on LinkedIn lead generation.

In this episode, we’re going to dive in on how to use outbound connection requests to generate leads and conversations on LinkedIn.

With my new service, Lead Cookie, we generate leads for our customers on LinkedIn. We’ve had some people who literally told us they need us to stop, because we were generating more leads than they could handle.

If you don’t have time to optimize your LinkedIn profile and use all its capabilities to generate leads, find us at LeadCookie.com.

For full show notes go to jake-jorgovan.com/podcast/096 ... This episode is sponsored by Outbound Creative

Outbound Creative helps agencies and consultancies win their dream clients through eye-catching outreach campaigns. Learn more at OutboundCreative.com

Oct 05 2017

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Rank #18: 146: Grow your business through speaking with Carol Cox

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If you’ve been thinking about speaking as an avenue to grow your business, join me In this week’s episode with Carol Cox, Founder and CEO of Speaking Your Brand. Carol is an expert at coaching entrepreneurs and executives on how to launch and build their speaking career for short-term, and long-term, results.   Carol reminds us just how valuable speaking engagements and being around people truly are these days. With all of the social media, content creation, and all the “followers” people obtain, we all forget just how impactful it can be when you meet and learn from someone in person. We discuss in detail how narrowing down your focus of topic to a very specific niche can really make you stand out from everyone else. Carol dives into some great tips on how to market yourself as a speaker and how people can inquire about you so that you can get premium and paid engagements.    Listen in to find out how you can get a free guide if you’d like more information on how speaking can help grow your business. You can also listen in to Carol’s podcast where she talks about all things related to speaking- from content to lead generation, and from sales to monetizing your speeches. Enjoy!

Nov 14 2019

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Rank #19: 145: Million Dollar Consulting with Alan Weiss

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In this week’s episode, join me in hearing tons of advice from Alan Weiss, author of a phenomenal book called “Million Dollar Consulting,” or as I like to call it, The “Bible” of Consulting, which is one of numerous books and articles he’s written. Alan is also the owner of Summit Consulting Group that provides management consulting services to clients across the globe.    During Alan’s professional journey, he quickly learned he could charge for the value of his consulting services, to which he’s pioneered value-based fees. Alan is also all about simplifying everything to place more speed on doing business and getting results. Overcomplicating processes won’t grow your business. Alan hones in on his core values of focusing on what’s important and why you should “carve away everything that doesn’t look like a career.”   The “Million Dollar Consulting” book is at the heart of everything I learned to start my businesses- my mindset, the tactics, the concepts behind charging for value, and more. Listen here to get more insight and tons of value out of this. And don’t forget to check out Alan Weiss.com, where you can find his blog and free articles, videos, audios, and locations for his next attendance.

Nov 07 2019

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Rank #20: 068: Dan Englander on account management

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Dan Englander is the founder of SalesSchema.com, and the author of Mastering Account Management and The B2B Sales Blueprint.

Dan is an expert on growing sales, and specifically, getting the most value out of existing clients, which is often ignored in sales.

We dive into his experiences in ramping up sales at one of the first video explainer companies and winning massive Fortune 500 accounts (like Verizon, Showtime, Bank of America, Venmo), before he started his own consultancy.

Highlights of this episode:

[1:44] In the blistering New York summer, Dan wears shorts to work from home, and will often stroll over to a coffee shop- it gets him in a different mindset and is helpful for separating tasks.

[2:20] Before he was the braggadocious founder of SalesSchema.com, Dan knew nothing about sales. As the first employee of Idea Rocket, he learned sales and made it work.

[3:50] His initial sales process was not cutting it.

[4:20] Things started to turn around. PPC and PR was effective, but winning the show opening for the Showtime Series Weeds help establish them as an authority.

[4:50] Fortune 500 companies find vendors the same way startups do. They won those initial big accounts by becoming a safe bet.

[5:45] The initial big wins gave them validation, and created a snowball effect.

[5:55] The main challenge for their first big sales was convincing them that something so unorthodox (at the time) as investing five figures in cartoon was a safe investment.

[8:15] As the market grew, the game changed from “buy a car not a horse” to “buy a Mercedes not a Honda.”

[8:55] Eventually, they got to a point (which most agencies get to) where the struggle was qualifying and prioritizing.

[9:35] How Dan goes about qualifying and prioritizing for better clients.

[11:18] Dan’s got different arrows in the quiver, that is 2 or 3 different sales processes for the different levels of clients.

[13:10] Establish immediate value by giving prospects a taste of what it’s like to worth with you.

[13:40] The biggest stopping point for many creative agencies is prep work. In order to overcome this, they would offer scripts to their videos, to get in the door and prepare the client.

[15:55] Account management is basically a role that combines client services and sales.

[17:04] Selling to existing customers should be easier than selling to new people, but its potential goes untapped, because most go about it the wrong, awkward way.

[18:25] Start with a partnership mindset. Don’t just randomly hit them up for new business. Build the next steps into your initial process. Be relevant. Find ways to help.

[20:00] Jake has found that quarterly reviews are a great way to reconnect and gauge the impact your work has had.

[20:55] Don’t send donuts.

[21:15] Partnerships are a long game- there’s more ways to pull value from an account than just selling the same product again.

[22:25] Dan discusses his approach to getting referrals from clients.

[24:10] What to look for in hiring a salesperson / account manager: if they could write well, they’re halfway there.

[25:34] Asking the right questions is the most important part of sales. Subject matter expertise is overrated.

[26:44] Aaron Ross stands out as useful to any company trying to implement a sales process.

[27:23] Neil Rackham was ahead of his time.

[28:55] While many young entrepreneurs want a step-by-step guide to succeeding, it’s more about the mindsets that enable success.

[29:35] Dan’s first book is the Chicken Soup for the Soul of account management. Check out the link below for a free copy.

[30:42] By the hard questions early on, you will save time and find more opportunities.

 

Resources from this episode:  This episode is sponsored by Outbound Creative

Outbound Creative helps agencies and consultancies win their dream clients through eye-catching outreach campaigns. Learn more at OutboundCreative.com

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152: Ghostwriting Best Selling Books at Scale with Kevin Anderson

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In this “best selling” episode, Kevin Anderson joins us from Kevin Anderson & Associates. With offices in New York City, Nashville, and Los Angeles, Kevin’s firm is made up of a team of New York Times bestselling writers, editors, and publishing consultants- offering all three of these top-notch services and producing high-quality content for their clients.    Kevin Anderson & Associates buckle down with dedication to each client to help formulate the content to ghostwrite their books-- whether it is starting from scratch from a few ideas or helping someone edit and rewrite a book they’ve already written. Kevin’s firm is also well connected to some of the industry’s best literary agents, marketers, publicists, and more to help make a book successful once it’s written. Many clients come to Kevin’s team specifically because of connections Kevin has to a variety of people in the industry and the marketing strategies they use.    If you are thinking about writing your own book but not sure where to start, or if you are looking into hiring ghostwriters, be sure and join us here for some great insights with Kevin!

Jan 22 2020

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151: The Business of Authority with Jonathan Stark

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If you are charging hourly and have a hit ceiling, this episode is definitely for you! This week, Jonathan Stark joins me once again as we dive into his “mission to rid the world of hourly billing.” He’s a former software developer and is now the author of Hourly Billing Is Nuts, the host of a podcast called Ditching Hourly, cohost of Business of Authority, and writes a daily newsletter about pricing for independent professionals.    Join us here to learn some awesome techniques and avenues to become an authority figure, broaden your network, connect more intimately with your audience, and command higher rates. This includes something as simple, yet huge, with daily emailing. Jonathan is determined to help consultants become authorities in their field so they can break out of that rut of trading time for money.    This interview was truly relevant to me and has sparked some ideas for my own business. I know you’ll want to take notes on this one. Dive in here and then go check out Jonathan’s website at ValuePricingBootCamp.com.

Jan 17 2020

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150: Establishing your point of view with Philip Morgan

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Philip Morgan is a good friend of mine and joins us this week for the second time on here because he’s got some great insights to share! For good reason, his LinkedIn description says, “I'm a pusherman. I get paid to push people beyond their comfort zone so they can become the self-made experts they aspire to be.” 

Philip helps small business owners build a point of view and to take a stance for what they believe in, which helps set them apart from others and propels their business forward just by creating this. He challenges people to do things that take their current level of expertise and amplify it in order to monetize their expertise. 

Find out here what Philip means when he says that you need to pick a group of people you “feel love” for. Philip goes into detail on how you can specialize and narrow your focus to be in better control with your marketing and how you can build your credibility after declaring your specialty on your website. Don’t miss out on Philip’s great advice and opinions that will have you chuckling!

Dec 19 2019

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149: Sales for Nerds with Reuben Swartz

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In this week’s episode, learn how to release the vicious cycle of selling that only leaves you feeling frustrated and fake. Join us as Reuben Swartz, head of the Sales for Nerds podcast and Founder of Mimiran- a CRM for people who hate “selling,” talks through all of the failed approaches he’s attempted at sales and what has finally brought him to his success with customers.

Reuben is not a “natural-born” salesperson, but he thought he was prepared for what would make him successful at sales. He quickly learned this was not the case and, for a long time, felt like he was insecure and pretending with his clients. In fact, it took him years to figure out that proposals to his clients were not about him… it was about the client. Fast forward to today, he has created Mimiran and now on a mission to help others avoid what he went through when approaching sales.

Join us here to get some value you will appreciate and take the pressure off yourself by being authentic and honest with your customers. Reuben created a mad lib that he wants to share with you that will benefit you and your clients when it comes to creating a proposal. His headline on LinkedIn is Get more clients by “teaching,” not “marketing” and “helping,” not “selling.” Find out all the details here!

Dec 12 2019

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148: Selling your agency with Peter Levitan

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Peter Levitan joins us in this week’s episode to discuss how he went about selling his agency and some words of advice for those who are thinking about selling theirs. Currently living in Mexico, Peter is a Business Development Consultant for advertising agencies around the world. Before that, he bought, and then eventually sold, his advertising agency in Oregon by managing the process himself.    Ask yourself the critical question, “Would you buy your agency?” If it’s not a solid “yes,” you may want to rethink selling. Also, very few agencies have a solid business plan, and this is key.   If you don’t have a business plan in place, you need one. How else will you stand out? We use the term “un-ignorable” many times in this episode while focusing on what that means for your business.    Listen in to Peter’s story and what you should be thinking about if selling your agency is crossing your mind. Find out why some businesses are not ready to be sold, what others look for when seeking to buy an agency, and dive into some business tactics to set your agency up to be “un-ignorable.” You can find out more by visiting PeterLevitan.com as well.

Dec 05 2019

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147: Networking through podcasts with Steve Gordon

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In this week’s episode, Steve Gordan joins us who also happens to host podcasts of his own. In fact, we dive specifically into how podcasts can be a great tool to use to help grow your business. Steve is the Founder of Unstoppable CEO and specializes in helping agencies get great clients who are ready to hire you.   With all the noise out there between marketing strategies, business funnels, and complex sales training programs, you need a unique way to develop trust with people. You need to strategically build relationships with other people and approach them in a different way. In fact, one of the things we touch on in this episode is how you can simplify your business just simply by aligning with human behavior.    This episode should have you asking yourself how you think of using podcasts for your business. An audience is great, but the relationships that you build from the podcast interviews are the ones that you can nurture and expand on to grow your business.    Listen in and get some great tips on why committing to your podcast long-term is the way to go. When you’re done, visit UnstoppableCEO.net/nopants to get a copy of the last book Steve wrote called “The Exponential Network Strategy.”

Nov 21 2019

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146: Grow your business through speaking with Carol Cox

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If you’ve been thinking about speaking as an avenue to grow your business, join me In this week’s episode with Carol Cox, Founder and CEO of Speaking Your Brand. Carol is an expert at coaching entrepreneurs and executives on how to launch and build their speaking career for short-term, and long-term, results.   Carol reminds us just how valuable speaking engagements and being around people truly are these days. With all of the social media, content creation, and all the “followers” people obtain, we all forget just how impactful it can be when you meet and learn from someone in person. We discuss in detail how narrowing down your focus of topic to a very specific niche can really make you stand out from everyone else. Carol dives into some great tips on how to market yourself as a speaker and how people can inquire about you so that you can get premium and paid engagements.    Listen in to find out how you can get a free guide if you’d like more information on how speaking can help grow your business. You can also listen in to Carol’s podcast where she talks about all things related to speaking- from content to lead generation, and from sales to monetizing your speeches. Enjoy!

Nov 14 2019

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145: Million Dollar Consulting with Alan Weiss

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In this week’s episode, join me in hearing tons of advice from Alan Weiss, author of a phenomenal book called “Million Dollar Consulting,” or as I like to call it, The “Bible” of Consulting, which is one of numerous books and articles he’s written. Alan is also the owner of Summit Consulting Group that provides management consulting services to clients across the globe.    During Alan’s professional journey, he quickly learned he could charge for the value of his consulting services, to which he’s pioneered value-based fees. Alan is also all about simplifying everything to place more speed on doing business and getting results. Overcomplicating processes won’t grow your business. Alan hones in on his core values of focusing on what’s important and why you should “carve away everything that doesn’t look like a career.”   The “Million Dollar Consulting” book is at the heart of everything I learned to start my businesses- my mindset, the tactics, the concepts behind charging for value, and more. Listen here to get more insight and tons of value out of this. And don’t forget to check out Alan Weiss.com, where you can find his blog and free articles, videos, audios, and locations for his next attendance.

Nov 07 2019

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144: Predictions on the future of LinkedIn

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What is the future of LinkedIn? This question comes up a lot in conversations with friends, podcast hosts, prospects, and peers.   LinkedIn, as a platform, is becoming the epicenter of business communication. B2B marketers and sales teams are flocking to the platform, and in a post-GDPR world, it has become one of the most reliable and powerful sales channels.   But what is to come? As the founder of one of the top LinkedIn lead generation companies, I am very close to the platform. Our team has seen the platform evolve and grow. I have spoken to individuals on LinkedIn's advisory board and I have heard many rumors of discussions from others in the industry.   What I am predicting here is not fact or am I 100% certain of this. But I have a decent level of confidence in these predictions and so I am sharing them in hopes they bring you value. Join me in today's solo episode as I dive into my 8 predictions for the future of LinkedIn!

Oct 30 2019

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143: Self-reliance with John Jantsch

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Catch this week’s episode with John Jantsch, President at Duct Tape Marketing and author of his newest book I’m already loving called “The Self-Reliant Entrepreneur.”

John has appeared on here before, and with his years and expertise in small business marketing, it’s a no-brainer to bring him back on the podcast now that he has published his sixth book. This book is a bit different than his first five that are all about how-to-do marketing. But “The Self-Reliant Entrepreneur” is structured more as a daily-read with a new meditational message for each day you turn a new page. Each entry shares a message or excerpt that comes from entrepreneurial writings from the 19th Century time period when “thinking for yourself” became more prominent during a time of political and cultural differences in the U.S. John gets his reader to take a bit of a more philosophical look at themselves, adds his own thoughts, and then follows that up with a question to challenge someone for that day.

The “Self-Reliant Entrepreneur” was just released this week, and I highly recommend everyone take a read. I am already applying this to my life and my business and can see I’ll be getting value from this for years to come as well. I know you will too. You can find your copy online or in any of your local bookstores. But first, listen here for some insight from John himself and get a sneak peek into the Jan 1st entry as John narrates straight out of the book. You’re going to like this one!

Oct 24 2019

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142: Hiring your first salesperson with Damian Thompson

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If you’re thinking about hiring a salesperson for your business, you NEED to give this episode a listen. Damian Thompson and I discuss the reasons behind why we cringe when someone says, “I’ve got a sales problem- so I’m going to hire a salesperson.” This is the wrong mindset!    Damian is the Founder & Chief Training Officer of Salesability. He’s been involved in software services and consultative selling since the mid-to-late 90s, so he knows a thing or two when it comes to when, or why, you should be hiring a salesperson. He’s always been “that” guy who was sent off to start selling and building a team in different locations around the world. He’s helped countless amounts of people who were small business owners who didn’t see themselves as a salesperson but needed to utilize sales to grow their business.   Trust me when I say this episode is extremely important to listen to and will change your perspective when thinking about sales for your business. There’s a robust amount of information here- everything from “why” you want to hire a salesperson, the misunderstandings people have about a salesperson’s role in your business, to the processes you should have in place when hiring one.  This is a subject I feel passionate about and hope you will find this truly useful for your business.

Oct 18 2019

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141: Selling your company (and giving proceeds to charity) with Michael Thomas

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In this episode, I listen to the Founder and CEO of Campfire Labs, Michael Thomas, describe his entrepreneurial journey and I am blown away at his generosity and his frame of mind when it comes to giving back.    Michael had a successful company that he decided to sell back in 2017, and because it was during a political turning point, he felt the need to help others so he pledged 25% of the proceeds to charitable causes. He then spent half a year volunteering with refugees in Greece, where he came to learn the lifestyle of people with difficult circumstances.   About a year after returning from his volunteer work, Michael started his new company, Campfire Labs, a journalistic-style content agency. But he wanted to continue helping others, so Michael and his partner give 50% of Campfire’s equity and profits to charitable causes.    Tune into this episode to get some inspiring details about Michael’s passion for giving to charity and how he did so. This interview won’t let you down...

Oct 10 2019

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140: Marketing for consultants with Michael Zipursky

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In this week’s eye-opening episode, I dive into a great interview with Michael Zipursky, coach and CEO of Consulting Success.  With a background in building and consulting businesses in North America and with multibillion-dollar businesses in Japan, he’s developed a coaching program that began as a blog and then morphed into what is now helping hundreds of consultants build successful businesses by adding six to seven figures to their annual revenues.    You may notice a familiar face here because I’ve interviewed Michael before. I’ve brought him back because recently his company conducted a Marketing for Consultants Study that I find fascinating and is full of valuable information and which marketing techniques can help build a successful business.   In this detailed study, 34,000 consultants were surveyed to find out what is actually working in their marketing techniques- what tactics they’re using and getting results from. The survey identifies and compares what high-performing consultants are doing vs low-performing consultants. Learn what the best practices are that we can all benefit from. For instance, what type of marketing works best and how much should you invest in marketing? Michael and I discuss in detail how you can shift your mindset for marketing costs from an expense to an investment. We’ll dive into some data from the survey to help give you a better understanding of what others are “investing.”    We also explore network effects, the simplicity of a phone call, and other marketing tactics that you may or may not already be using. Where should you be putting your money in when it comes to marketing? Listen here to find out and explore more on the survey at https://www.consultingsuccess.com/marketing-for-consultants-study.

Oct 02 2019

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139: Building a world-class content marketing agency with Mary Ellen Slayter

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In this episode, I talk with Mary Ellen Slayter , CEO and team leader at Rep Cap, which is a content marketing agency that specializes in creating thought leadership, strategies, and plans for B2B industries. She is also the Publisher and Founder of ManagingEditor.com.   Mary Ellen pursues most of her work in Insurance and HR Tech, but worked her way through her journalism career by writing for things like B2B newsletters, career advice columns, and as a finance editor. She has an understanding of large technical and financial terms and has a multitude of knowledge pulled from her professional experience and from her studies in college to get her degree.     Mary Ellen has an edge that makes her stand out from others- she is comfortable writing content for her clients that most other writers want to stay away from. And after taking her own ideas and organizing them into processes through a project management tool, she’s created a team of writers that have similar values on the quality of their writing. Each member of her team has a background in the field of expertise their clients are in, so being able to understand the jargon their clients use helps her team produce top notch content. No “content sludge” here!    Join me here for some insight into how Mary Ellen helps sell the incredible ideas her clients come up with- and just how she is able to pull information from her smart, reserved clients. If you are looking for more information, please visit ManagingEditor.com.

Sep 26 2019

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138: Getting real and raw with Franco Cabral

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In this week’s episode, I sit down and have a very honest conversation with Franco Cabral , who is the CEO of inMark Media Group and owner of his personal brand at FrancoCabral.com. InMark Media Group helps small to medium sized businesses with their brand and advertising inside almost 700 supermarkets across the nation.     In just three and a half years, Franco rapidly grew his sales team for inMark Media Group, but it took a lot more time and energy with his personal growth for him to get to where he is today.  Franco had it all- or at least it would seem that way on paper, or looking from the outside in. However, it was only when he reached a pivotal moment that he realized how unhappy and unfulfilling life really was. In this episode, Franco shares his amazing story of how he went from studying to become a doctor, to working in sales and becoming a National Sales Director, and then building his own business by using his credibility and reputation within the field.    Franco is someone I look up to and am always learning something from. I feel like I can relate to some of his story with personal growth and I hope this hits home for many of you. Join me in this open and honest episode that describes the process Franco entailed to get to his success today- success with his business and in his personal life.   For anyone looking to hear more from Franco Cabral’s podcast, please visit inMarkMG.com and click on the link to his podcast or you can find it as The Honest Liar Podcast.

Sep 19 2019

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137: Building a 35+ person remote content agency with Devin Bramhall of Animalz

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In this noteworthy episode, I sit down with Devin Bramhall , Director of Marketing with Animalz, a content marketing agency that works with huge name customers. It was founded as a co-located company in NYC by a man named Walter Chen. Because the best talent isn’t all in one location, the team has expanded to more than 35 people spread across the world who wanted both structure and freedom in their lives. Walter brought Devin and her team on to run this company, and by providing the space these leaders need along with a solid infrastructure in place, the business took off and major growth happened just within the last year.   Quality work is so important in this business, so Animalz takes several approaches to be sure this can happen. They invest heavily in their people, within the company, and with their clients. For Animalz, it was important to create a repeatable structure to follow.  And with training, a lot of investment into the clients, and digging into each subject matter, quality is then built into the process. Animalz will model their work as if they are embedded in each company, as a content marketer working there. They also do everything possible to align with the customer throughout the entire process.   For anyone building up their agency, this is a great episode to listen to! Devin dives into the importance of having a repeatable process in place, keeping the creatives within your company motivated to produce high-quality work, and how to keep your clients engaged throughout the process. Hear how she ensures a relationship is built with the client and how to get them to commit to the process before even starting on content.  Here we go…

Aug 01 2019

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136: High-value writing for high-profile prospects with Jessica Mehring

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On this episode, I speak with Jessica Mehring, CEO and Senior Copywriter at Horizon Peak Consulting, a content marketing agency that produces very technical and difficult work for companies focused on enterprise sales.   Jessica started her copywriting career in the corporate world, and though she was good at what she did, she eventually hit a plateau, so she took the necessary steps to discovering exactly what her niche was. She is now an expert at what she does and has very high standards for her team and for the work her business provides to huge-brand clients.   Horizon Peak Consulting offers each client a high level of trust and very high-quality work. Right off the bat, companies can see measurable results on her website, and with Jessica focusing on the end-customer, putting in the research needed and above-and-beyond efforts needed to be able to write superior quality content, she can help her clients hit their targeted goals and KPIs.   Listen to this week’s episode to hear how far Jessica has come in her career, as well as the specifics on Jessica’s detailed onboarding process and how she sets expectations from the get-go.

Jul 24 2019

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135: $0-2M ARR content agency in less than 24 months with Nat Eliason

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In this week's episode, I talk with Nat Eliason, CEO & Founder of Growth Machine. Using a “systems-first” approach and by producing great content, he quickly grew this business from zero to 2 million ARR in less than 2 years and now has a 10-person team working around the U.S.   Growth Machine is an SEO-focused content marketing agency that mostly works with eCommerce and tech companies by managing their blog content production.    With ad costs increasing, more businesses are looking for someone who can create, optimize, and promote content, while also giving them the best chance of ranking high in Google searches. With high-quality writers that consistently meet deadlines and by following a very structured system, Growth Machine delivers great results for their clients.    Listen in to hear a robust episode full of valuable information. Nat also wraps up with two important suggestions for anyone in the early stages of starting their own content business. Break out your notepad and pen for this one, folks!

Jul 18 2019

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134: Becoming a thought leader with Jason Van Orden

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On this week’s episode, I speak with Jason Van Orden who calls himself a “thought leader business strategist”- essentially taking someone who is an expert in their field and turning them into a thought leader within that industry.   Whether someone is already a thought leader and wants to grow what they have or someone who is just learning how to become a thought leader, Jason helps guide them by providing valuable marketing strategies to turn their stuff into digital assets.   It’s not about the latest, greatest tactic to get the attention of your target audience. It’s about using a strategy to get you onto the correct platforms and using your unique voice within all of it, especially when there is so much noise on the internet. What will make you stand out and how do you make it clear who you are online? Jason shares here what the 3 R’s are when trying to reach your goal audience and why they’re so important.   Tune in to listen to some great tips from Jason and what his thoughts and recommendations on how to market yourself using the right content and the right channels are.  You can learn more about what Jason does through JasonVanOrden.com.

Jul 11 2019

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133: Building a ghostwriting agency with Lacy Boggs

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In this episode, I speak with Lacy Boggs , director of The Content Direction Agency -writing high quality content and creating bespoke content marketing strategies for online entrepreneurs.

Determined to stay home with her baby about 8 years ago, Lacy quit her regular job as a journalist, started writing a food blog and eventually started ghostwriting for some big authors. She has an amazing talent of being able to write content from each client’s own tone of voice, so this led her to starting her own agency. She started as a solo freelance writer to growing into a team of 10 while only working 20 hours per week.

Listen here to learn all about how Lacy grew The Content Direction Agency, how her incredible team is able to produce content that is used to its full potential, and why the agency model was the better decision for her to scale her business.

Jun 26 2019

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Awesome show, highly recommend!

By J. Barshop - May 30 2018
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Jake and his guests provide some incredibly compelling and actionable content on how to effectively grow your consulting business / agency, without draining your bank account (and well-being) Highly recommend listening and subscribing to Working Without Pants if you want the knowledge and mindsets to navigate the many complexities that come with this line of work (and reach your overall business goals as a result)!

Great podcast

By رنا الكوفي - Dec 18 2014
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I strongly recommend this podcast for anybody want to start a freelancing career.