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Kay Laurence - Learning About Dogs

Kay Laurence of "Learning About Dogs" in the U.K. and Sue McGuire, a manager of a canine program at an animal shelter near San Francisco join forces to talk about the life we live with dogs. Kay Laurence brings with her more than 40 years of experience working and teaching dogs. Her unique and insightful perspective provides dog trainers and dog people a new way to learn about dogs. Sue McGuire provides the unique perspective of interacting with hundreds of dogs in shelters.

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Connected Walking Means Leave the Clicker at Home

Connection is about being aware of each other. There is a way to find comfort and pleasure in walks for both parties. To become a Master Dog Walker, you will need to develop skills to achieve success. Every Dog Every Day from Learning About Dogs.You can assess the right environment.Respond to changes in the environment.Walk at the right speed for you and your dog.Alter the length of the lead according to demands the situation.Set boundaries--gently.Know what reconnection looks like and continue.The walk with the dog is as much for their benefit as yours. Try not to be selfish and just consider your own agenda.In this episode of Learning About Dogs, Kay Laurence and Sue McGuire discuss what is going on with the whole business of walking with our dogs. A scenario that doesn't necessarily warrant the use of a clicker. And connected walking isn't always about being on lead. Connection happens off leash too.Are you interested in a topic for a future podcast? We encourage you to go to Facebook “Whilst I was listening to the podcast and leave a comment.Courses: Kay Laurence will be conducting an eight-week online  course on Clean Training,  through Learning About Dogs. "This course will focus on examining the component skills that develop really clear communication between two different species with training and teaching that leaves no doubts, no confusion and no uncertainty." This course starts August 14th. Sue McGuire will be teaching a six-week in person course at the Humane Society of Sonoma County in Santa Rosa, California on "Living with Dogs. "This dog-centered approach embraces that dogs are dogs and understanding their innate behaviors opens a world of possibilities of learning for human and dog. The focus is helping people develop the kind of world in which their dogs succeed. This course starts August 17th. A second session will start October 5th.

45mins

24 Jul 2019

Rank #1

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Training Myths: The Three Second Rule

Click - shoveClick - shoveClick - shoveHow many of us have heard that in order for understanding to happen when clicking and reinforcing behavior, the “treat” must be delivered within three seconds of the click?That training protocol was to prevent any other behavior from sneaking in between the click and the reinforcer. Boy is that looking at the process too narrowly.Learning fast does not  mean learning well.In this episode Kay Laurence and Sue McGuire dive into the three second rule fallacy and what we really should be focusing on in the reinforcement process, People who click and shove should be asked, “What are you trying to teach as opposed to what are you trying to suppress? You can't count reinforcement by number of clicks per minute,” says Kay Laurence.  The click represents the start of the reinforcement process. That process can vary, and should, depending on the behavior and placement of the reinforcement. There is an online course on "Reinforcements and Rewards" starting July 10th through Learning About Dogs.

16mins

3 Jul 2019

Rank #2

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Season #2 Premier "FUN" in Training

We're not quite sure why dog training turned into an exercise of "must be fun" or "must be entertaining" in order to be of "value."In this first episode of season two of the "Learning About Dogs" podcast, Kay Laurence of "Learning About Dogs,"  and Sue McGuire discuss what is a behavior and what is a trick? Is there a difference?We have all seen the marketing. Tricks for fun! Agility for fun! How is the dog to know if what is being taught is for fun? The labels we use for human comfort often come at a cost to the dog.All teaching should be done carefully and thoughtfully and for the benefit of the dog and the life they live with us. Article:One Dog's Trick is Another Dog's Lifeskill by Kay LaurenceNew Online Course from Kay Laurence-Learning About DogsTraining Beyond and AboveThis course is for people who relish learning as a community with a plentiful opportunities to travel with new eyes and change the way you look at things.We shall go Beyond and Above the standard recipes that will generate many Aha moments, engineer more questions, dissolve assumptions and challenge habits. This is not a course for replicating demonstration but identifying how to learn from demonstration, select critical points, identify skill sets, build clear task analysis, explore the concepts, adapt and apply the concepts to new conditionsClasses: At Humane Society of Sonoma County, Santa Rosa, CaliforniaTaught by Sue McGuire TAKL Certified"The Art of Teaching Dogs" Level 1: Saturday February 29thWe start with how the teaching process works and develops into clarity of understanding for our dogs. This first level class explores the reinforcement process.  We will investigate how rewards compliment a behavior. Reinforcement types, delivery and patterns are in play when developing behaviors.  Only with a deep understanding of what dogs find motivating, can we begin to unravel the mysteries of how dogs learn.  

54mins

29 Jan 2020

Rank #3

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Chains and Sequences. Be aware! You are surrounded by them!!

Living with dogs successfully requires us to have an awareness of behaviors that are "stuck" together. Often times it's a lack of understanding of chains and sequences that gets us into trouble. Jump-sit= You can't get one without the other.Bark-treat= A good way to reinforce a bark.Slow to pick their head out of the gopher hole yet they come eventually= creates a slow come when called.In this episode, Kay Laurence and Sue McGuire talk about life being surrounded by behavior chains. From blackbird mating calls to self-checkouts at the grocery store, we can be entertained or frustrated by these stuck together sequences. Learning About DogsKatie Bartlett Equine Clicker Training article on sequences of behavior

43mins

26 Jun 2019

Rank #4

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Contingencies in Play When Teaching Dogs

Contingencies change behavior, reinforcers maintain or strengthen behavior.Contingencies will include the environment, the space the dog feels is around them or not, any threats, what you are doing, what they have learned, their genetic traits, their early learning and of course …. you. All these elements can change, and because they change, the behavior changes.In this episode, a deep discussion topic for sure, Kay Laurence of Learning About Dogs and Sue McGuire (forever the student) dive into contingencies that influence behavior.  For interesting reading here is an article "Guidance is not dependence."Learning About Dogs: List of courses available to students both in person and online learning.

15mins

8 May 2019

Rank #5

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Duration or hold your station?

Dogs are exquisite at knowing when a behavior they are doing needs to be slowed down, held or ended quickly. We as handlers need to be strong observers of when these behaviors happen naturally so that when we are requesting a dog to "hold their station" it's filled with understanding. Back in the olden days, trainers were taught about the three D's--distance-duration-distraction. You can predict that any conversation with Kay Laurence of Learning About Dogs is going to toss out that old school mentality as irrelevant and quite possibly confusing to the learner.Kay Laurence  of Learning About Dogs and Sue McGuire, an animal shelter Canine Behavior Program manager, start a two part series exploring duration.

23mins

5 Jun 2019

Rank #6

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Teaching dogs to sustain their activity is not the same thing as duration

Our language fails us at times when we want to describe what we are seeking when teaching a dog to continue to do an activity. "The use of the word duration is far too inadequate," says Kay Laurence of Learning About Dogs. The episode continues the conversation about the lack of clarity and understanding impacts the learner's understanding when teaching them how to sustain an activity. The use of terminal behavior cues play a role.Dogs are exquisite at knowing when a behavior they are doing needs to be slowed down, held or ended quickly. We as handlers need to be strong observers of when these behaviors happen naturally so that when we are requesting a dog to "hold their station" it's filled with understanding.  When we ask a dog to continue doing an activity also needs to be taught with clarity and understanding. Per usual, Kay Laurence looks at this idea from an enlightening perspective.For information on online courses and in person workshops check out Learning About Dogs.

19mins

29 May 2019

Rank #7

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Bonus Episode: Cue Technology: Singing your Cues

Giving a cue and responding to a cue is a conversation where questions are asked answered. We give cues and the dog can answer, dog will also give us cues and we need to listen.This edited BONUS version of the Cue Technology episode is a must listen. Kay Laurence of Learning About Dogs, as usual, has a unique and fascinating approach to the technology of cues.Not to be missed is a course on Cue Technology that she is offering through Learning About Dogs. The six-week, online course, is must learning.The course starts September 18th.  For a full description of the course go to Learning About Dogs CUE TECHNOLOGY.Sue McGuire, Producer of the Learning About Dogs podcast, is presenting a course on Living with Dogs, which is an evidence-based course. Participants will provide evidence of their own learning about how they will teach and live with dogs.The course starts October 5th at the Humane Society of Sonoma County, in Santa Rosa, California.

9mins

27 Aug 2019

Rank #8

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Learning to use silence as part of a training session

You enter ring at a venue, the routine starts, you look over at your dog and a sinking feeling starts. As you start to go through the exercises, your dog looks as if he has NO idea of what you cue.You become frustrated, think you need to train harder, think your dog needs more practice and you begin to list off any number of possible reasons. All of them likely are quite valid or not.Have you ever taught your dog to get used to you being silent? Using silence as part of a teaching program can provide clarity during the teaching process. It sounds like an oxymoron, but it is not.In this episode of Learning About Dogs, Kay Laurence discusses how using silence is vital to the teaching process because cheerleading can "prop up behaviors" that have not really been learned.For online learning, workshops and articles check out Learning About Dogs.

16mins

12 Jun 2019

Rank #9

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Learning the Skills of Teaching and Our Dogs will Learn

"Too often the focus of luring is about 'getting the behavior' and not enough about the process of teaching or the learning process.If we focus on the process of learning, that will have an impact on every behavior the dog learns," says Kay Laurence of Learning About Dogs.Read the full article here.In this episode, Kay Laurence and Sue McGuire discuss what skills the handlers should have and understand as part of the process of teaching.Teach the skills of teaching.Are you interested in a topic for a future podcast? We encourage you to go to Facebook “Whilst I was listening to the podcast and leave a comment.Courses: Kay Laurence will be conducting an eight-week online  course on Clean Training,  through Learning About Dogs. "This course will focus on examining the component skills that develop really clear communication between two different species with training and teaching that leaves no doubts, no confusion and no uncertainty." This course starts August 14th. Sue McGuire will be teaching a six-week in person course at the Humane Society of Sonoma County in Santa Rosa, California on "Living with Dogs. "This dog-centered approach embraces that dogs are dogs and understanding their innate behaviors opens a world of possibilities of learning for human and dog. The focus is helping people develop the kind of world in which their dogs succeed. This course starts August 17th. A second session will start October 5th.

43mins

17 Jul 2019

Rank #10

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Listener Questions to Learning About Dogs, the Hosts Answer!

On this episode of the Learning About Dogs podcast, we questions from listenersWe have a Facebook group, "Whilst I was listening to your podcast," where listeners can pose questions and ask for clarification on discussion topics heard on the podcast. We pulled some of these inquiries and are answering them in this episode.Kay Laurence of Learning About Dogs and Sue McGuire, teacher of "The Art of Teaching Dogs," always have questions after an educational adventure. One should never stop learning and asking questions.This is one of many such episodes planned for the second season of this podcast.To catch up and listen to past episodes, which we STRONGLY encourage you to do, here is a link to the full list.New Online Course from Kay Laurence-Learning About DogsTraining Beyond and AboveThis course is for people who relish learning as a community with a plentiful opportunities to travel with new eyes and change the way you look at things.We shall go Beyond and Above the standard recipes that will generate many Aha moments, engineer more questions, dissolve assumptions and challenge habits. This is not a course for replicating demonstration but identifying how to learn from demonstration, select critical points, identify skill sets, build clear task analysis, explore the concepts, adapt and apply the concepts to new conditionsClasses: At Humane Society of Sonoma County, Santa Rosa, CaliforniaTaught by Sue McGuire TAKL Certified"The Art of Teaching Dogs" Level 1: Saturday February 29thWe start with how the teaching process works and develops into clarity of understanding for our dogs. This first level class explores the reinforcement process.  We will investigate how rewards compliment a behavior. Reinforcement types, delivery and patterns are in play when developing behaviors.  Only with a deep understanding of what dogs find motivating, can we begin to unravel the mysteries of how dogs learn.  

46mins

12 Feb 2020

Rank #11

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Click Fishing? Dog Trainers and terminology

Our minds are spinning over the terminology we hear at behavior conferences and dog training seminars. We dog people LOVE naming thingsStart button behaviors Decompression walksConsentClick fishing.....what??In this episode of Learning About Dogs, Kay Laurence cautions trainers to avoid marketing and fancy terms and really look at the protocol behind a term. Is this of a benefit to the dog?This episode looks at Click Fishing, Go ahead and take a guess of what that might mean exactly. For online learning, workshops and articles go to Learning About Dogs.

17mins

19 Jun 2019

Rank #12

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What is a dog training geek? TAKL 2020

TAKL2020 is a blend of a study course and a mentoring program. You can follow either route or a combination through self-selecting and self-progress. This is an online course.The course encourages self-directed learning and critical thinking developing a new mind-set that will project forward to every dog you share your life with in the future. There is very little space for branded training recipes, off the shelf solutions or quick-fixes.The course is equally suited to someone who enjoys training with their own dog or a professional teacher and trainer with clients.Learning About Dogs online course and start your journey to Geekland.The Heartbeat of Geekland--blog post by Kay Laurence.Other resources:In Australia: Delight in Dogs

33mins

22 May 2019

Rank #13

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Teacher or Trainer? Coach or dog parent? Who are we to our dogs?

What are we to our dogs?Teacher?Trainer? Instructor?  Coach?  Parent?On this episode of Learning About Dogs, Kay Laurence and Sue McGuire go through the labels we give ourselves and what others apply to those of us who work with dogs. If you share your life with a dog, then you are a dog trainer.“What is a Trainer?”“Extremely fine skills in a very specific specialty.” Is that maybe the correct description for a trainer?We want you know of some new courses coming up from Learning About Dogs online.Training  Beyond and Above Online courseThis course is for people who relish learning as a community with a plentiful opportunities to travel with new eyes and change the way you look at things.We shall go Beyond and Above the standard recipes that will generate many Aha moments, engineer more questions, dissolve assumptions and challenge habits. This is not a course for replicating demonstration but identifying how to learn from demonstration, select critical points, identify skill sets, build clear task analysis, explore the concepts, adapt and apply the concepts to new conditions.The Art of Teaching Dogs is a six week in person course offered by Sue McGuire at the Humane Society of Sonoma County, in Santa Rosa, California. The Level 1 Class starts February 29th

39mins

19 Feb 2020

Rank #14

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Managing the Pace of Your Training Sessions

Are there signs your dog are showing that indicate to you as a handler to continue a training session? How about knowing when a break is needed to let the learner collect and rest? In this episode, Kay Laurence and Sue McGuire converse about ways to pace learning to suit the learner in front of you. "How the behavior is carried out is more important than the behavior itself," said trainer Chris Bond. This includes making sure the learning style suits the learner. Learning About Dogs courses teach handlers to focus on the learner and how best to address their needs as you live life together.

18mins

1 May 2019

Rank #15

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The Value of Teaching Base Behaviors

Connection is our base behavior. It is where learning begins. What are base behaviors and why go through the process of teaching them?"It’s about teaching the dog to move to the platform as a choice, or to move the foot as a choice, or to lower their head as a choice, not necessarily about where they just got the reinforcer.  The base position becomes a place where the dog chooses to go to, when they are not sure what to do," says Kay Laurence of Learning About Dogs.In this episode, Sue McGuire and Kay Laurence dive into the value of teaching our dogs the concept of base behaviors as a path of communication and engagement.Courses: Kay Laurence will be conducting an eight-week online  course on Clean Training,  through Learning About Dogs. "This course will focus on examining the component skills that develop really clear communication between two different species with training and teaching that leaves no doubts, no confusion and no uncertainty." This course starts August 14th.Sue McGuire will be teaching a six-week in person course at the Humane Society of Sonoma County in Santa Rosa, California on "Living with Dogs. "This dog-centered approach embraces that dogs are dogs and understanding their innate behaviors opens a world of possibilities of learning for human and dog. The focus is helping people develop the kind of world in which their dogs succeed. This course starts August 17th. A second session will start October 5th.

39mins

10 Jul 2019

Rank #16

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Labels Again. A Talk About "Learned Helplessness."

One must be careful about using terminology we hear at seminars or read in books and apply to our training.Kay Laurence of Learning About Dogs and co-host Sue McGuire love tackling these habits of trainers applying a label to something they think they are seeing, when what might be happening, is not really happening.What? We chat about the concept of learned helplessness. We're not saying this does not exit in certain histories. Might this actually be a lack of having taught the necessary skills to dogs? Or providing time to allow a dog to show us what they know?For more information:Learning About Dogs website. Become a member and gain access to a plethora of valuable information that will broaden and enrich life with your dog.Every Dog Every Day is the primer of how to navigate sharing your life with a dog.Be sure to read the "Connection Collection." On the various ways we can live with our dogs with a deep connection.Sue McGuire offers  "The Art of Teaching Dogs" The Art of Teaching Dogs is a six week in person course offered by Sue McGuire at the Humane Society of Sonoma County, in Santa Rosa, California. Level 1 Class  starts in August

40mins

29 Apr 2020

Rank #17

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Bonus Episode: Online Dog Training, Separating the Wheat from the Chaff

Not all online learning is created equal.The sudden move to online learning for many disciplines, not just dog training, has been astounding.On this special bonus episode of the "Learning About Dogs" podcast, Kay Laurence and Sue McGuire attempt to provide a bit of a tutorial for students who want to know how to separate the good, from the not so good, to the downright hucksters out there. Kay Laurence Blogpost: Separating the Wheat from the ChaffOnline courses of good quality:Learning About Dogs New Online Course OfferingsOnline Learning from Sue McGuireBasic Level 1Article from Educausereview :"The Difference Between Emergency Remote Teaching and Online Learning"

36mins

20 Apr 2020

Rank #18

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Errorless Learning? Yep! Errorless Teaching? Not So Much

Errors are feedback.Set the dog up for success.Develop the skill to know what to change in a teaching set up, and when.Teach the prerequisite skills--even the rats and pigeons in the boxes were provided that information.Emotions underly all learning.There is much to chat about on the concept of "errorless learning" in dog training. On this episode of the Learning About Dogs podcast, Kay Laurence of "Learning About Dogs," and Sue McGuire, a TAKL (Trainer Accredited by Kay Laurence) Certified Trainer and manager of canine behavior program at animal shelter near San Francisco, dive in. For more information:Learning About Dogs website. Become a member and gain access to a plethora of valuable information that will broaden and enrich life with your dog.Every Dog Every Day is the primer of how to navigate sharing your life with a dog.Be sure to read the "Connection Collection." On the various ways we can live with our dogs with a deep connection.Sue McGuire offers  "The Art of Teaching Dogs" The Art of Teaching Dogs is a six week in person course offered by Sue McGuire at the Humane Society of Sonoma County, in Santa Rosa, California. Level 1 Class session starts in August.

43mins

15 Apr 2020

Rank #19

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Hands and What They Should Mean to Our Dog

Dogs are aware of our every move and have decided which ones are relevant to them and which are of little consequences.This is so apparent when we use our hands, be it, living our daily lives with them, or participating in a training sessions.When puppies come to us, this is when we should be teaching what hands mean.Hands are always a sign of welcome....In this episode of Learning About Dogs Podcast, Kay Laurence of Learning About Dogs and Sue McGuire, a TAKL graduate and manager of a canine behavior program at a shelter near San Francisco, talk about the use of hands.For more information:Learning About Dogs website. Become a member and gain access to a plethora of valuable information that will broaden and enrich life with your dog.Every Dog Every Day is the primer of how to navigate sharing your life with a dog.Be sure to read the "Connection Collection." On the various ways we can live with our dogs with a deep connection.Sue McGuire offers  "The Art of Teaching Dogs" The Art of Teaching Dogs is a six week in person course offered by Sue McGuire at the Humane Society of Sonoma County, in Santa Rosa, California. Continue to check up back for more  Level 1 classes.

37mins

1 Apr 2020

Rank #20