Geoff Levin is a professional musician and former Scientologist who grew up in San Jose, CA. In 1962 at the age of 16, he started his musical life and embraced the burgeoning folk scene in the San Francisco Bay Area where he played stand-up bass with Jerry Garcia in the bluegrass group The Black Mountain Boys. In 1964 he formed the rock band PEOPLE! who were quickly signed to Capitol Records where they released the hit song "I Love You". By 1968 Geoff was recruited into Scientology where he was a devout follower until 2012. After his involvement in Scientology led to the dissolution of his band, Geoff began composing music for film and TV working with large technology companies like Apple and Microsoft. Today Geoff is a multi-faceted film composer who has scored over 50 full-length films, with an impressive range of TV credits from Game of Thrones to Parks &amp; Recreation and many more. His incredible story is the subject of the upcoming documentary "Brothers Broken: The Power of Music, The Curse of Scientology" which spotlights the acclaimed music careers of Geoff and his brother and how their potential success was compromised by joining Scientology which also nearly destroyed their lives. In this revealing conversation, Geoff describes the Bay Area music scene of the sixties, explaining how Scientology lurked in the darker corners of the spiritual revolution of the youth movement. He explains how his childhood feelings of isolation, created a vulnerability that led to his eventual recruitment into Scientology. Before You Go: Rachel points out how high control groups are constantly moving the "finish line" over and over knowing they can never provide the solutions or goals they promised followers at the time of recruitment.You can find more info about Geoff's film at:www.facebook.com/BrothersBrokenMovieAll of Rachel's free informational PDF documents are available here:www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/pdf.htmlAll of Rachel's video lectures are available for purchase here:www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/webinar.htmlTo help support the show monthly and get bonus episodes, shirts, and tote bags, please visit:www.patreon.com/indoctrinationPrefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link:www.paypal.me/indoctrinationConnect with us on Social Media:Twitter:twitter.com/_indoctrinationFacebook:www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcastTik Tok:www.tiktok.com/@indoctrinationpodcastInstagram:www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast/YouTube:www.youtube.com/rachelbernsteinlmftYou can always help the show for free by leaving a rating on Spotify or a review on Apple/ iTunes. It really helps the visibility of the show!

Geoff Levin is a professional musician and former Scientologist who grew up in San Jose, CA. In 1962 at the age of 16, he started his musical life and embraced the burgeoning folk scene in the San Francisco Bay Area where he played stand-up bass with Jerry Garcia in the bluegrass group The Black Mountain Boys. In 1964 he formed the rock band PEOPLE! who were quickly signed to Capitol Records where they released the hit song "I Love You". By 1968 Geoff was recruited into Scientology where he was a devout follower until 2012. After his involvement in Scientology led to the dissolution of his band, Geoff began composing music for film and TV working with large technology companies like Apple and Microsoft. Today Geoff is a multi-faceted film composer who has scored over 50 full-length films, with an impressive range of TV credits from Game of Thrones to Parks &amp; Recreation and many more. His incredible story is the subject of the upcoming documentary "Brothers Broken: The Power of Music, The Curse of Scientology" which spotlights the acclaimed music careers of Geoff and his brother and how their potential success was compromised by joining Scientology which also nearly destroyed their lives. In this revealing conversation, Geoff describes the Bay Area music scene of the sixties, explaining how Scientology lurked in the darker corners of the spiritual revolution of the youth movement. He explains how his childhood feelings of isolation, created a vulnerability that led to his eventual recruitment into Scientology. Before You Go: Rachel points out how high control groups are constantly moving the "finish line" over and over knowing they can never provide the solutions or goals they promised followers at the time of recruitment. You can find more info about Geoff's film at: <a href="http://www.facebook.com/BrothersBrokenMovie" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.facebook.com/BrothersBrokenMovie</a> All of Rachel's free informational PDF documents are available here: <a href="http://www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/pdf.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/pdf.html</a> All of Rachel's video lectures are available for purchase here: <a href="http://www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/webinar.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/webinar.html</a> To help support the show monthly and get bonus episodes, shirts, and tote bags, please visit: <a href="http://www.patreon.com/indoctrination" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.patreon.com/indoctrination</a> Prefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link: <a href="http://www.paypal.me/indoctrination" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.paypal.me/indoctrination</a> Connect with us on Social Media: Twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/_indoctrination" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">twitter.com/_indoctrination</a> Facebook: <a href="http://www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcast</a> Tik Tok: <a href="http://www.tiktok.com/@indoctrinationpodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.tiktok.com/@indoctrinationpodcast</a> Instagram: <a href="http://www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast/</a> YouTube: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/rachelbernsteinlmft" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.youtube.com/rachelbernsteinlmft</a> You can always help the show for free by leaving a rating on Spotify or a review on Apple/ iTunes. It really helps the visibility of the show!

Brothers Broken w/Geoff Levin

Priscilla Eyles

This is just a preview of our Patreon exclusive bonus episode. You can hear the episode in its entirety by becoming a member at:www.patreon.com/indoctrinationReturning guest, Priscilla Eyles is a Justice, Equity, Diversity &amp; Inclusion trainer and facilitator from London. They are an advocate, and speaker passionate about raising awareness around the issues that Neurodivergent people face, specifically those of multiple marginalized identities. Alongside normalizing conversations around vulnerabilities to cult abuse, career, and intergenerational trauma. Priscilla is a bi-racial, neurodivergent queer person who survived eight years in two cults and has worked in many toxic workplaces with cult-like dynamics.Priscilla is also a trustee for Camden Disability Action and has a special interest in effective and holistic therapeutic frameworks and trauma-informed approaches, they recently completed a foundation certificate in Integrative Psychotherapy and Counselling at the Minster Centre. Their first published book chapter will be out later this year in the forthcoming "Birdsong From Inobservable Worlds, an anthology on Psychiatry and Race", edited by mental health activist Dolly Sen.In this second conversation with Priscilla, she continues her story explaining how she quickly jumped from Landmark to One Taste, the infamous "orgasmic meditation" cult whose leader was recently indicted on forced labor charges.You can reach out to Priscilla on social media or via her email at:priscillaeyles@gmail .comTwitter: PriscillaEylesIG: CulturalLiasonsCheck out their music as “Dandy Lion” here:dandylionuk.bandcamp.com/album/be-perfectThanks to all of our Patreon supporters for making this episode possible!

This is just a preview of our Patreon exclusive bonus episode. You can hear the episode in its entirety by becoming a member at: <a href="http://www.patreon.com/indoctrination" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.patreon.com/indoctrination</a> Returning guest, Priscilla Eyles is a Justice, Equity, Diversity &amp; Inclusion trainer and facilitator from London. They are an advocate, and speaker passionate about raising awareness around the issues that Neurodivergent people face, specifically those of multiple marginalized identities. Alongside normalizing conversations around vulnerabilities to cult abuse, career, and intergenerational trauma. Priscilla is a bi-racial, neurodivergent queer person who survived eight years in two cults and has worked in many toxic workplaces with cult-like dynamics. Priscilla is also a trustee for Camden Disability Action and has a special interest in effective and holistic therapeutic frameworks and trauma-informed approaches, they recently completed a foundation certificate in Integrative Psychotherapy and Counselling at the Minster Centre. Their first published book chapter will be out later this year in the forthcoming "Birdsong From Inobservable Worlds, an anthology on Psychiatry and Race", edited by mental health activist Dolly Sen. In this second conversation with Priscilla, she continues her story explaining how she quickly jumped from Landmark to One Taste, the infamous "orgasmic meditation" cult whose leader was recently indicted on forced labor charges. You can reach out to Priscilla on social media or via her email at: priscillaeyles@gmail .com Twitter: PriscillaEyles IG: CulturalLiasons Check out their music as “Dandy Lion” here: <a href="http://dandylionuk.bandcamp.com/album/be-perfect" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">dandylionuk.bandcamp.com/album/be-perfect</a> Thanks to all of our Patreon supporters for making this episode possible!

BONUS EPISODE PREVIEW:  From Landmark to One Taste w/ Priscilla Eyles

Priscilla Eyles is a Justice, Equity, Diversity &amp; Inclusion trainer and facilitator from London. They are an advocate, and speaker passionate about raising awareness around the issues that Neurodivergent people face, specifically those of multiple marginalized identities. Alongside normalizing conversations around vulnerabilities to cult abuse, career, and intergenerational trauma. Priscilla is a bi-racial, neurodivergent queer person who survived eight years in two cults and has worked in many toxic workplaces with cult-like dynamics.Priscilla is also a trustee for Camden Disability Action and has a special interest in effective and holistic therapeutic frameworks and trauma-informed approaches, they recently completed a foundation certificate in Integrative Psychotherapy and Counselling at the Minster Centre. Their first published book chapter will be out later this year in the forthcoming "Birdsong From Inobservable Worlds, an anthology on Psychiatry and Race", edited by mental health activist Dolly Sen.In this compelling conversation, Priscilla begins to reveal her complex story of multiple cultic experiences. Together, Rachel and Priscilla analyze the role of identity within high-control groups and explain how vulnerability is exploited within "large group awareness trainings" such as Landmark.Before You Go: Rachel shares her insights on how emotional trauma can manifest physically in the body, explaining how these effects can be amplified in cultic groups.You can reach out to Priscilla on social media or via her email at:priscillaeyles@gmail .comTwitter: PriscillaEylesIG: CulturalLiasonsCheck out their music as “Dandy Lion” here:dandylionuk.bandcamp.com/album/be-perfectThe music featured in this episode is by The Wholesome you can find more info on them here:https://m.facebook.com/the.wholesome.musicTheir new album "Alive Tonight" is available here:https://open.spotify.com/album/3bLCWfMp9gSqtY7Usiise7?si=3ZDRHZUgQFSCbNl6fDv5bw&amp;context=spotify%3Aalbum%3A3bLCWfMp9gSqtY7Usiise7All of Rachel's free informational PDF documents are available here:www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/pdf.htmlAll of Rachel's video lectures are available for purchase here:www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/webinar.htmlTo help support the show monthly and get bonus episodes, shirts, and tote bags, please visit:www.patreon.com/indoctrinationPrefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link:www.paypal.me/indoctrinationConnect with us on Social Media:Twitter:twitter.com/_indoctrinationFacebook:www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcastTik Tok:www.tiktok.com/@indoctrinationpodcastInstagram:www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast/YouTube:www.youtube.com/rachelbernsteinlmftYou can always help the show for free by leaving a rating on Spotify or a review on Apple/ iTunes. It really helps the visibility of the show!

Priscilla Eyles is a Justice, Equity, Diversity &amp; Inclusion trainer and facilitator from London. They are an advocate, and speaker passionate about raising awareness around the issues that Neurodivergent people face, specifically those of multiple marginalized identities. Alongside normalizing conversations around vulnerabilities to cult abuse, career, and intergenerational trauma. Priscilla is a bi-racial, neurodivergent queer person who survived eight years in two cults and has worked in many toxic workplaces with cult-like dynamics. Priscilla is also a trustee for Camden Disability Action and has a special interest in effective and holistic therapeutic frameworks and trauma-informed approaches, they recently completed a foundation certificate in Integrative Psychotherapy and Counselling at the Minster Centre. Their first published book chapter will be out later this year in the forthcoming "Birdsong From Inobservable Worlds, an anthology on Psychiatry and Race", edited by mental health activist Dolly Sen. In this compelling conversation, Priscilla begins to reveal her complex story of multiple cultic experiences. Together, Rachel and Priscilla analyze the role of identity within high-control groups and explain how vulnerability is exploited within "large group awareness trainings" such as Landmark. Before You Go: Rachel shares her insights on how emotional trauma can manifest physically in the body, explaining how these effects can be amplified in cultic groups. You can reach out to Priscilla on social media or via her email at: priscillaeyles@gmail .com Twitter: PriscillaEyles IG: CulturalLiasons Check out their music as “Dandy Lion” here: <a href="http://dandylionuk.bandcamp.com/album/be-perfect" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">dandylionuk.bandcamp.com/album/be-perfect</a> The music featured in this episode is by The Wholesome you can find more info on them here: <a href="https://m.facebook.com/the.wholesome.music" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://m.facebook.com/the.wholesome.music</a> Their new album "Alive Tonight" is available here: <a href="https://open.spotify.com/album/3bLCWfMp9gSqtY7Usiise7?si=3ZDRHZUgQFSCbNl6fDv5bw&amp;context=spotify%3Aalbum%3A3bLCWfMp9gSqtY7Usiise7" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://open.spotify.com/album/3bLCWfMp9gSqtY7Usiise7?si=3ZDRHZUgQFSCbNl6fDv5bw&amp;context=spotify%3Aalbum%3A3bLCWfMp9gSqtY7Usiise7</a> All of Rachel's free informational PDF documents are available here: <a href="http://www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/pdf.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/pdf.html</a> All of Rachel's video lectures are available for purchase here: <a href="http://www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/webinar.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/webinar.html</a> To help support the show monthly and get bonus episodes, shirts, and tote bags, please visit: <a href="http://www.patreon.com/indoctrination" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.patreon.com/indoctrination</a> Prefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link: <a href="http://www.paypal.me/indoctrination" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.paypal.me/indoctrination</a> Connect with us on Social Media: Twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/_indoctrination" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">twitter.com/_indoctrination</a> Facebook: <a href="http://www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcast</a> Tik Tok: <a href="http://www.tiktok.com/@indoctrinationpodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.tiktok.com/@indoctrinationpodcast</a> Instagram: <a href="http://www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast/</a> YouTube: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/rachelbernsteinlmft" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.youtube.com/rachelbernsteinlmft</a> You can always help the show for free by leaving a rating on Spotify or a review on Apple/ iTunes. It really helps the visibility of the show!

Leaving Landmark w/Priscilla Eyles

Sue Winter is a modern linguist who holds two graduate degrees, one from the University of London, and another from UWE Bristol. She taught for over 44 years in a variety of settings in both mainstream and specialist teams for vulnerable young people. Sue has multiple cultic experiences from religious to corporate to interpersonal, including both parental and spousal abuse. She became involved in Fruitful Vine Ministries, an Australian charismatic group, led by a female apostle prophet. After leaving that group she unknowingly “cult hopped” volunteering for a UK-based commercial hiking company which she only recently realized was employing many cult-like practices. She is now an E.S.O.L examiner and a group leader for a U.S. not-for-profit organization. Sue has a passion for language and speaks French, Spanish, German, Catalan, and Arabic.In this complex and engaging discussion, Sue opens up to Rachel about the plethora of cultic experiences she endured throughout her lifetime. Together they draw connections between the various high-control situations she found herself in. Rahel and Sue go on to point out the commonalities of Sue's experiences, pointing out the similarity in the methods of control.Before You Go: Rachel examines the resilience of those who survive multiple cult experiences and offers her insights on how to stay conscious of the potential to "Cult Hop"All of Rachel's free informational PDF documents are available here:www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/pdf.htmlAll of Rachel's video lectures are available for purchase here:www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/webinar.htmlTo help support the show monthly and get bonus episodes, shirts, and tote bags, please visit:www.patreon.com/indoctrinationPrefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link:www.paypal.me/indoctrinationConnect with us on Social Media:Twitter:twitter.com/_indoctrinationFacebook:www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcastTik Tok:www.tiktok.com/@indoctrinationpodcastInstagram:www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast/YouTube:www.youtube.com/rachelbernsteinlmftYou can always help the show for free by leaving a rating on Spotify or a review on Apple/ iTunes. It really helps the visibility of the show!

Sue Winter is a modern linguist who holds two graduate degrees, one from the University of London, and another from UWE Bristol. She taught for over 44 years in a variety of settings in both mainstream and specialist teams for vulnerable young people. Sue has multiple cultic experiences from religious to corporate to interpersonal, including both parental and spousal abuse. She became involved in Fruitful Vine Ministries, an Australian charismatic group, led by a female apostle prophet. After leaving that group she unknowingly “cult hopped” volunteering for a UK-based commercial hiking company which she only recently realized was employing many cult-like practices. She is now an E.S.O.L examiner and a group leader for a U.S. not-for-profit organization. Sue has a passion for language and speaks French, Spanish, German, Catalan, and Arabic. In this complex and engaging discussion, Sue opens up to Rachel about the plethora of cultic experiences she endured throughout her lifetime. Together they draw connections between the various high-control situations she found herself in. Rahel and Sue go on to point out the commonalities of Sue's experiences, pointing out the similarity in the methods of control. Before You Go: Rachel examines the resilience of those who survive multiple cult experiences and offers her insights on how to stay conscious of the potential to "Cult Hop" All of Rachel's free informational PDF documents are available here: <a href="http://www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/pdf.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/pdf.html</a> All of Rachel's video lectures are available for purchase here: <a href="http://www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/webinar.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/webinar.html</a> To help support the show monthly and get bonus episodes, shirts, and tote bags, please visit: <a href="http://www.patreon.com/indoctrination" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.patreon.com/indoctrination</a> Prefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link: <a href="http://www.paypal.me/indoctrination" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.paypal.me/indoctrination</a> Connect with us on Social Media: Twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/_indoctrination" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">twitter.com/_indoctrination</a> Facebook: <a href="http://www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcast</a> Tik Tok: <a href="http://www.tiktok.com/@indoctrinationpodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.tiktok.com/@indoctrinationpodcast</a> Instagram: <a href="http://www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast/</a> YouTube: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/rachelbernsteinlmft" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.youtube.com/rachelbernsteinlmft</a> You can always help the show for free by leaving a rating on Spotify or a review on Apple/ iTunes. It really helps the visibility of the show!

The Language Of Control w/Sue Winter

This is just a preview of our Patreon exclusive bonus episode. You can hear the episode in its entirety by becoming a member at:https://www.patreon.com/indoctrinationReturning guest, Em Thomas was born and raised in the dogmatic Christian cult The Way International. The daughter of a Way Corps graduate and WOW ambassador, Em attended a fellowship in her home three nights per week, monthly branch meetings with other leadership families, and prolonged stays semi-annually at TWI headquarters. Em’s family was labeled “Mark and Avoid” (excommunicated) in 1998, after which they attended fellowship within a splinter group until 2000 when Em was 15 years old. Em has two main goals for sharing her story: to connect with other survivors of cultic abuse, especially second or third-generation survivors of The Way International, and to bring attention to this once well-known organization that is still operating and doing harm to its members today. She hopes that by telling her truth, she can bring hope to folks who are still finding their way out.In this follow-up conversation, Em details the rampant homophobia of the church's leaders and shares her long and complex journey to recovery after leaving the cult as a teenager. She points out the long-lasting psychological impacts that affected her life and relationships long after being physically out of the grips of the church. Together Rachel and Em discuss how being deprived of bodily autonomy as a child can lead to entering into dangerous relationships as an adult.Em can be found on Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/markandavoid/You can contact her via email at: iammarkandavoid@gmail.comThanks to all of our Patreon supporters for making this episode possible!

This is just a preview of our Patreon exclusive bonus episode. You can hear the episode in its entirety by becoming a member at: <a href="https://www.patreon.com/indoctrination" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.patreon.com/indoctrination</a> Returning guest, Em Thomas was born and raised in the dogmatic Christian cult The Way International. The daughter of a Way Corps graduate and WOW ambassador, Em attended a fellowship in her home three nights per week, monthly branch meetings with other leadership families, and prolonged stays semi-annually at TWI headquarters. Em’s family was labeled “Mark and Avoid” (excommunicated) in 1998, after which they attended fellowship within a splinter group until 2000 when Em was 15 years old. Em has two main goals for sharing her story: to connect with other survivors of cultic abuse, especially second or third-generation survivors of The Way International, and to bring attention to this once well-known organization that is still operating and doing harm to its members today. She hopes that by telling her truth, she can bring hope to folks who are still finding their way out. In this follow-up conversation, Em details the rampant homophobia of the church's leaders and shares her long and complex journey to recovery after leaving the cult as a teenager. She points out the long-lasting psychological impacts that affected her life and relationships long after being physically out of the grips of the church. Together Rachel and Em discuss how being deprived of bodily autonomy as a child can lead to entering into dangerous relationships as an adult. Em can be found on Instagram at <a href="https://www.instagram.com/markandavoid/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/markandavoid/</a> You can contact her via email at: iammarkandavoid@gmail.com Thanks to all of our Patreon supporters for making this episode possible!

BONUS EPISODE PREVIEW: Finding A Way To Heal w/Em Thomas

Em Thomas was born and raised in the dogmatic Christian cult The Way International. The daughter of a Way Corps graduate and WOW ambassador, Em attended a fellowship in her home three nights per week, monthly branch meetings with other leadership families, and prolonged stays semi-annually at TWI headquarters. Em’s family was labeled “Mark and Avoid” (excommunicated) in 1998, after which they attended fellowship within a splinter group until 2000 when Em was 15 years old.Em has two main goals for sharing her story: to connect with other survivors of cultic abuse, especially second or third-generation survivors of The Way International, and to bring attention to this once well-known organization that is still operating and doing harm to its members today. She hopes that by telling her truth, she can bring hope to folks who are still finding their way out.In this revealing conversation, Em shares publicly for the very first time her story of abuse, homophobia, and coercive control as a member of The Way International. She explains to Rachel how she struggled with her identity and sexuality growing up in the very unsafe, and predatory environment of the church and how that experience primed her for abusive relationships and self-harm as a teenager. Together Rachel and Em analyze the harmful dogma of the church, its fraudulent and plagiarized teachings, and the abusive culture of control, secrecy, and excommunication.Before You Go: Rachel addresses the importance of fortifying bodily autonomy in young children and explains how high-control organizations often intentionally work to erase the natural boundaries of self-determination and physical sovereignty to assert total control over their followers and weaken resistance to abuse.Em can be found on Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/markandavoid/You can contact her via email at: iammarkandavoid@gmail.comAll of Rachel's free informational PDF documents are available here:https://rachelbernsteintherapy.com/pdf.htmlAll of Rachel's video lectures are available for purchase here:www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/webinar.htmlTo help support the show monthly and get bonus episodes, shirts, and tote bags, please visit:www.patreon.com/indoctrinationPrefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link:www.paypal.me/indoctrinationConnect with us on Social Media:Twitter:twitter.com/_indoctrinationFacebook:www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcastTik Tok:www.tiktok.com/@indoctrinationpodcastInstagram:www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast/YouTube:www.youtube.com/rachelbernsteinlmftYou can always help the show for free by leaving a rating on Spotify or a review on Apple/ iTunes. It really helps the visibility of the show!

Em Thomas was born and raised in the dogmatic Christian cult The Way International. The daughter of a Way Corps graduate and WOW ambassador, Em attended a fellowship in her home three nights per week, monthly branch meetings with other leadership families, and prolonged stays semi-annually at TWI headquarters. Em’s family was labeled “Mark and Avoid” (excommunicated) in 1998, after which they attended fellowship within a splinter group until 2000 when Em was 15 years old. Em has two main goals for sharing her story: to connect with other survivors of cultic abuse, especially second or third-generation survivors of The Way International, and to bring attention to this once well-known organization that is still operating and doing harm to its members today. She hopes that by telling her truth, she can bring hope to folks who are still finding their way out. In this revealing conversation, Em shares publicly for the very first time her story of abuse, homophobia, and coercive control as a member of The Way International. She explains to Rachel how she struggled with her identity and sexuality growing up in the very unsafe, and predatory environment of the church and how that experience primed her for abusive relationships and self-harm as a teenager. Together Rachel and Em analyze the harmful dogma of the church, its fraudulent and plagiarized teachings, and the abusive culture of control, secrecy, and excommunication. Before You Go: Rachel addresses the importance of fortifying bodily autonomy in young children and explains how high-control organizations often intentionally work to erase the natural boundaries of self-determination and physical sovereignty to assert total control over their followers and weaken resistance to abuse. Em can be found on Instagram at <a href="https://www.instagram.com/markandavoid/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/markandavoid/</a> You can contact her via email at: iammarkandavoid@gmail.com All of Rachel's free informational PDF documents are available here: <a href="https://rachelbernsteintherapy.com/pdf.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://rachelbernsteintherapy.com/pdf.html</a> All of Rachel's video lectures are available for purchase here: <a href="http://www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/webinar.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/webinar.html</a> To help support the show monthly and get bonus episodes, shirts, and tote bags, please visit: <a href="http://www.patreon.com/indoctrination" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.patreon.com/indoctrination</a> Prefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link: <a href="http://www.paypal.me/indoctrination" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.paypal.me/indoctrination</a> Connect with us on Social Media: Twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/_indoctrination" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">twitter.com/_indoctrination</a> Facebook: <a href="http://www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcast</a> Tik Tok: <a href="http://www.tiktok.com/@indoctrinationpodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.tiktok.com/@indoctrinationpodcast</a> Instagram: <a href="http://www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast/</a> YouTube: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/rachelbernsteinlmft" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.youtube.com/rachelbernsteinlmft</a> You can always help the show for free by leaving a rating on Spotify or a review on Apple/ iTunes. It really helps the visibility of the show!

Mark & Avoid w/ Em Thomas

Chris Shelton is a former cult member who escaped from a lifetime of indoctrination and abuse, started a YouTube channel to educate the public about coercive or cultic control, undue influence, and brainwashing, has written a book on the subject of Scientology and why that group is a destructive, high-control group and has spoken at the Secular Hub many times on these topics. He hosts a weekly podcast, a call-in show, and a Q&amp;A, has been featured on the Emmy-award-winning Scientology and the Aftermath television documentary series, and has appeared on a number of media platforms discussing cultic influence.In this revelatory and cathartic conversation, longtime colleagues and friends Chris and Rachel discuss some of the lurid details of Scientology's actions with regard to the recent conviction of Danny Masterson. Chris offers his personal insights as a former Scientologist on the malicious intent behind the vicious and criminal tactics of intimidation the group is infamous for employing against its detractors. Before You Go: Rachel shares details about her own experiences of harassment from the Church of Scientology and their minions, explaining the systematic ways in which the group attempts to intimidate anyone they see as a threat to their power.You can find out more about Chris and his work at: www.mncriticalthinking.comWatch Rachel's appearances on Chris's Podcast "Sensibly Speaking" here:https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGrPM1Pg2h705KqJ9DRi3HKkWqqZAA6HsAll of Rachel's video lectures are available for purchase here:www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/webinar.htmlTo help support the show monthly and get bonus episodes, shirts, and tote bags, please visit:www.patreon.com/indoctrinationPrefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link:www.paypal.me/indoctrinationConnect with us on Social Media:Twitter:twitter.com/_indoctrinationFacebook:www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcastTik Tok:www.tiktok.com/@indoctrinationpodcastInstagram:www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast/YouTube:www.youtube.com/rachelbernsteinlmftYou can always help the show for free by leaving a rating on Spotify or a review on Apple/ iTunes. It really helps the visibility of the show!

Chris Shelton is a former cult member who escaped from a lifetime of indoctrination and abuse, started a YouTube channel to educate the public about coercive or cultic control, undue influence, and brainwashing, has written a book on the subject of Scientology and why that group is a destructive, high-control group and has spoken at the Secular Hub many times on these topics. He hosts a weekly podcast, a call-in show, and a Q&amp;A, has been featured on the Emmy-award-winning Scientology and the Aftermath television documentary series, and has appeared on a number of media platforms discussing cultic influence. In this revelatory and cathartic conversation, longtime colleagues and friends Chris and Rachel discuss some of the lurid details of Scientology's actions with regard to the recent conviction of Danny Masterson. Chris offers his personal insights as a former Scientologist on the malicious intent behind the vicious and criminal tactics of intimidation the group is infamous for employing against its detractors. Before You Go: Rachel shares details about her own experiences of harassment from the Church of Scientology and their minions, explaining the systematic ways in which the group attempts to intimidate anyone they see as a threat to their power. You can find out more about Chris and his work at: <a href="http://www.mncriticalthinking.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.mncriticalthinking.com</a> Watch Rachel's appearances on Chris's Podcast "Sensibly Speaking" here: <a href="https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGrPM1Pg2h705KqJ9DRi3HKkWqqZAA6Hs" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLGrPM1Pg2h705KqJ9DRi3HKkWqqZAA6Hs</a> All of Rachel's video lectures are available for purchase here: <a href="http://www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/webinar.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/webinar.html</a> To help support the show monthly and get bonus episodes, shirts, and tote bags, please visit: <a href="http://www.patreon.com/indoctrination" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.patreon.com/indoctrination</a> Prefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link: <a href="http://www.paypal.me/indoctrination" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.paypal.me/indoctrination</a> Connect with us on Social Media: Twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/_indoctrination" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">twitter.com/_indoctrination</a> Facebook: <a href="http://www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcast</a> Tik Tok: <a href="http://www.tiktok.com/@indoctrinationpodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.tiktok.com/@indoctrinationpodcast</a> Instagram: <a href="http://www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast/</a> YouTube: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/rachelbernsteinlmft" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.youtube.com/rachelbernsteinlmft</a> You can always help the show for free by leaving a rating on Spotify or a review on Apple/ iTunes. It really helps the visibility of the show!

Criminality in Cults w/Chris Shelton, MSc

For this week's bonus episode, Patreon supporters can access Rachel's recent video lecture from the International Cultic Studies Conference. In this lecture, Rachel explains how fear can impact the decision-making process in members of high-control groups. This subject is for anyone including those who have gotten involved in a cult, in a controlling relationship, in multi-level marketing, in a corporation that demands all your time and devotion, or in any situation where you feel it would not be safe to say "No".Manipulators are extremely good at making sure we go along with their wishes and that we agree to do what they want us to do and what they tell us to do. They get us to ignore all of our doubts and concerns and questions and even get us to a point of feeling fear about saying "No" so we don't get labeled "difficult" or as the troublemaker. We don't want to risk making the controller upset by putting our foot down and not immediately agreeing to something. You can access the video by becoming a supporter at: www.patreon.com/indoctrinationYou can find a PDF outline of this lecture at: https://rachelbernsteintherapy.com/pdf.html

For this week's bonus episode, Patreon supporters can access Rachel's recent video lecture from the International Cultic Studies Conference. In this lecture, Rachel explains how fear can impact the decision-making process in members of high-control groups. This subject is for anyone including those who have gotten involved in a cult, in a controlling relationship, in multi-level marketing, in a corporation that demands all your time and devotion, or in any situation where you feel it would not be safe to say "No". Manipulators are extremely good at making sure we go along with their wishes and that we agree to do what they want us to do and what they tell us to do. They get us to ignore all of our doubts and concerns and questions and even get us to a point of feeling fear about saying "No" so we don't get labeled "difficult" or as the troublemaker. We don't want to risk making the controller upset by putting our foot down and not immediately agreeing to something. You can access the video by becoming a supporter at: <a href="http://www.patreon.com/indoctrination" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.patreon.com/indoctrination</a> You can find a PDF outline of this lecture at: <a href="https://rachelbernsteintherapy.com/pdf.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://rachelbernsteintherapy.com/pdf.html</a>

BONUS EPISODE PREVIEW: Why Fear Makes Us Say "Yes" When We Should Have Said "No"

Sarah Patch is a clinical counselor in Columbus, Ohio who has devoted the past few years of her career to educating herself and others on authoritarian abuse and cult involvement. Sarah cares deeply about raising awareness of the subtle and not-so-subtle signs of controlling behavior so that people can live more authentic and joyful lives. Sarah was both a participant and victim of authoritarian control while in a Christian cult where she spent most of her life. She hopes that by sharing her story, she can help individuals break down their walls of cognitive dissonance and find freedom.Throughout this revealing conversation, Sarah shares insights from her experience under the control of Xenos, now known as Dwell Church. She goes on to discuss with Rachel her own work as a counselor, explaining how her time in a high-control religious group informed the work she does today. Together the two colleagues explain the mechanisms of control that are commonly used in cultic organizations.Before You Go: Rachel addresses the concept of P.I.M.O. (Physically In, Mentally Out) explaining the complex stages of recovering from cultic abuse, and how they can manifest in the minds of survivors.You can find more info about Sarah's work at https://www.sarahpatchcounseling.com/ All of Rachel's video lectures are available for purchase here:www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/webinar.htmlTo help support the show monthly and get bonus episodes, shirts, and tote bags, please visit:www.patreon.com/indoctrinationPrefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link:www.paypal.me/indoctrinationConnect with us on Social Media:Twitter:twitter.com/_indoctrinationFacebook:www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcastTik Tok:www.tiktok.com/@indoctrinationpodcastInstagram:www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast/YouTube:www.youtube.com/rachelbernsteinlmftYou can always help the show for free by leaving a rating on Spotify or a review on Apple/ iTunes. It really helps the visibility of the show!

Sarah Patch is a clinical counselor in Columbus, Ohio who has devoted the past few years of her career to educating herself and others on authoritarian abuse and cult involvement. Sarah cares deeply about raising awareness of the subtle and not-so-subtle signs of controlling behavior so that people can live more authentic and joyful lives. Sarah was both a participant and victim of authoritarian control while in a Christian cult where she spent most of her life. She hopes that by sharing her story, she can help individuals break down their walls of cognitive dissonance and find freedom. Throughout this revealing conversation, Sarah shares insights from her experience under the control of Xenos, now known as Dwell Church. She goes on to discuss with Rachel her own work as a counselor, explaining how her time in a high-control religious group informed the work she does today. Together the two colleagues explain the mechanisms of control that are commonly used in cultic organizations. Before You Go: Rachel addresses the concept of P.I.M.O. (Physically In, Mentally Out) explaining the complex stages of recovering from cultic abuse, and how they can manifest in the minds of survivors. You can find more info about Sarah's work at <a href="https://www.sarahpatchcounseling.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.sarahpatchcounseling.com/</a> All of Rachel's video lectures are available for purchase here: <a href="http://www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/webinar.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/webinar.html</a> To help support the show monthly and get bonus episodes, shirts, and tote bags, please visit: <a href="http://www.patreon.com/indoctrination" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.patreon.com/indoctrination</a> Prefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link: <a href="http://www.paypal.me/indoctrination" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.paypal.me/indoctrination</a> Connect with us on Social Media: Twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/_indoctrination" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">twitter.com/_indoctrination</a> Facebook: <a href="http://www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcast</a> Tik Tok: <a href="http://www.tiktok.com/@indoctrinationpodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.tiktok.com/@indoctrinationpodcast</a> Instagram: <a href="http://www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast/</a> YouTube: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/rachelbernsteinlmft" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.youtube.com/rachelbernsteinlmft</a> You can always help the show for free by leaving a rating on Spotify or a review on Apple/ iTunes. It really helps the visibility of the show!

Subtle Signs of Control w/Sarah Patch, LPCC

Guinevere Turner is a writer, director, and actor who has been working in film and TV since her 1994 debut film Go Fish, which she wrote, produced, and starred in. She teamed up with director Mary Harron to write the films American Psycho, The Notorious Bettie Page, and the 2019 film Charlie Says.  She can be seen in film roles that include The Watermelon Woman, Chasing Amy, American Psycho, and The L Word. Guinevere has taught screenwriting at Sarah Lawrence College, Columbia University, the University of Georgia, UCLA, and NYU. Her recently released immersive, and spell-binding memoir "When The World Didn't End" tells the story of her childhood growing up with the infamous Lyman Family cult—and the complicated and unexpected pain of leaving the only home she’d ever known. In this very forthright conversation, Guinevere shares her reflections on her childhood as a member of the Lyman Family cult, explaining how her isolation since birth made it difficult for her to recognize the exploitation she experienced in the moment. Together Rachel and Guinevere go on to share their thoughts on the healing process and point out how perspectives change and become more complex over time.Before You Go: Rachel explains how manipulative leaders create a false perception of deficiency in their followers in order to keep them distracted from their empty messages of spiritual growth. You can find Guinevere's book at your local independent bookstore or on her website:https://www.guinevereturner.com/ You can read her piece in The New Yorker here:https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/05/06/my-childhood-in-a-cultAll of Rachel's video lectures are available for purchase here:www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/webinar.htmlTo help support the show monthly and get bonus episodes, shirts, and tote bags, please visit:www.patreon.com/indoctrinationPrefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link:www.paypal.me/indoctrinationConnect with us on Social Media:Twitter:twitter.com/_indoctrinationFacebook:www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcastTik Tok:www.tiktok.com/@indoctrinationpodcastInstagram:www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast/YouTube:www.youtube.com/rachelbernsteinlmftYou can always help the show for free by leaving a rating on Spotify or a review on Apple/ iTunes. It really helps the visibility of the show!

Guinevere Turner is a writer, director, and actor who has been working in film and TV since her 1994 debut film Go Fish, which she wrote, produced, and starred in. She teamed up with director Mary Harron to write the films American Psycho, The Notorious Bettie Page, and the 2019 film Charlie Says. She can be seen in film roles that include The Watermelon Woman, Chasing Amy, American Psycho, and The L Word. Guinevere has taught screenwriting at Sarah Lawrence College, Columbia University, the University of Georgia, UCLA, and NYU. Her recently released immersive, and spell-binding memoir "When The World Didn't End" tells the story of her childhood growing up with the infamous Lyman Family cult—and the complicated and unexpected pain of leaving the only home she’d ever known. In this very forthright conversation, Guinevere shares her reflections on her childhood as a member of the Lyman Family cult, explaining how her isolation since birth made it difficult for her to recognize the exploitation she experienced in the moment. Together Rachel and Guinevere go on to share their thoughts on the healing process and point out how perspectives change and become more complex over time. Before You Go: Rachel explains how manipulative leaders create a false perception of deficiency in their followers in order to keep them distracted from their empty messages of spiritual growth. You can find Guinevere's book at your local independent bookstore or on her website: <a href="https://www.guinevereturner.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.guinevereturner.com/</a> You can read her piece in The New Yorker here: <a href="https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/05/06/my-childhood-in-a-cult" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/05/06/my-childhood-in-a-cult</a> All of Rachel's video lectures are available for purchase here: <a href="http://www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/webinar.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/webinar.html</a> To help support the show monthly and get bonus episodes, shirts, and tote bags, please visit: <a href="http://www.patreon.com/indoctrination" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.patreon.com/indoctrination</a> Prefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link: <a href="http://www.paypal.me/indoctrination" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.paypal.me/indoctrination</a> Connect with us on Social Media: Twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/_indoctrination" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">twitter.com/_indoctrination</a> Facebook: <a href="http://www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcast</a> Tik Tok: <a href="http://www.tiktok.com/@indoctrinationpodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.tiktok.com/@indoctrinationpodcast</a> Instagram: <a href="http://www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast/</a> YouTube: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/rachelbernsteinlmft" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.youtube.com/rachelbernsteinlmft</a> You can always help the show for free by leaving a rating on Spotify or a review on Apple/ iTunes. It really helps the visibility of the show!

When The World Didn't End w/Guinevere Turner

Welcome to IndoctriNation: A weekly podcast covering cults, manipulators, and protecting yourself from systems of control.

This is just a preview of our exclusive Patreon bonus episode. You can hear the full episode by becoming a supporter at:www.patreon.com/indoctrinationReturning guest, Mark Turi discovered Scientology while on vacation in Los Angeles, just a month after graduating college in May 2005, Two years later, he joined the staff at the Church of Scientology in Berlin, Germany. While in Berlin, Mark worked for Scientology for over 90 hours a week, earning very little money. He left Berlin in February 2008 when he was transferred to the Church of Scientology in San Francisco, where he worked until May 2008.Since leaving Scientology Mark has been regularly sharing about his experience online in the hopes that his story can help young people, especially recent college graduates, be more aware of predatory organizations like The Church of Scientology. He has continued to pursue his education and is currently enrolled in a Master's program in Budapest, Hungary where he now resides. Mark is a historian focusing on Nationalism, Language, and Jewish Culture in Late Modern Europe.In this follow-up conversation, Mark shares further details about his time as a staff member of Scientology, this time he focuses on the aftermath explaining how he managed the anger and resentment that remained after his exodus. Together Rachel and Mark unpack the complex post-cult healing process and share their respective insights on the dangers of "black &amp; white" thinking.Thanks to all of our Patron supporters for making this episode possible!!

This is just a preview of our exclusive Patreon bonus episode. You can hear the full episode by becoming a supporter at: <a href="http://www.patreon.com/indoctrination" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.patreon.com/indoctrination</a> Returning guest, Mark Turi discovered Scientology while on vacation in Los Angeles, just a month after graduating college in May 2005, Two years later, he joined the staff at the Church of Scientology in Berlin, Germany. While in Berlin, Mark worked for Scientology for over 90 hours a week, earning very little money. He left Berlin in February 2008 when he was transferred to the Church of Scientology in San Francisco, where he worked until May 2008. Since leaving Scientology Mark has been regularly sharing about his experience online in the hopes that his story can help young people, especially recent college graduates, be more aware of predatory organizations like The Church of Scientology. He has continued to pursue his education and is currently enrolled in a Master's program in Budapest, Hungary where he now resides. Mark is a historian focusing on Nationalism, Language, and Jewish Culture in Late Modern Europe. In this follow-up conversation, Mark shares further details about his time as a staff member of Scientology, this time he focuses on the aftermath explaining how he managed the anger and resentment that remained after his exodus. Together Rachel and Mark unpack the complex post-cult healing process and share their respective insights on the dangers of "black &amp; white" thinking. Thanks to all of our Patron supporters for making this episode possible!!

BONUS EPISODE PREVIEW: Reflections On Healing w/Mark Turi

Mark Turi

Mark Turi discovered Scientology while on vacation in Los Angeles, just a month after graduating college in May 2005,  Two years later, he joined the staff at the Church of Scientology in Berlin, Germany. While in Berlin, Mark worked for Scientology for over 90 hours a week, earning very little money. He left Berlin in February 2008 when he was transferred to the Church of Scientology in San Francisco, where he worked until May of 2008. Since leaving Scientology Mark has been regularly sharing about his experience online in the hopes that his story can help young people, especially recent college graduates, be more aware of predatory organizations like The Church of Scientology. He has continued to pursue his education and is currently enrolled in a Master's program in Budapest, Hungary where he now resides.  Mark is a historian focusing on Nationalism, Language, and Jewish Culture in Late Modern Europe.In this insightful conversation, Mark details the deceptive ways in which he was lured into joining the Scientology staff and what he believes made him vulnerable to their duplicitous tactics. Throughout the discussion, Rachel and Mark break down the ways in which Scientology exploits its staff members and explain how the controlling culture of the organization keeps its employees obedient.Before You Go: Rachel weighs in on the Scientology concept of Human Emotional Reaction (H.E.R.) explaining how it manifests and the manipulative intentions behind it.All of Rachel's video lectures are available for purchase here:www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/webinar.htmlTo help support the show monthly and get bonus episodes, shirts, and tote bags, please visit:www.patreon.com/indoctrinationPrefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link:www.paypal.me/indoctrinationConnect with us on Social Media:Twitter:twitter.com/_indoctrinationFacebook:www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcastTik Tok:www.tiktok.com/@indoctrinationpodcastInstagram:www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast/YouTube:www.youtube.com/rachelbernsteinlmftYou can always help the show for free by leaving a rating on Spotify or a review on Apple/ iTunes. It really helps the visibility of the show!

Mark Turi discovered Scientology while on vacation in Los Angeles, just a month after graduating college in May 2005, Two years later, he joined the staff at the Church of Scientology in Berlin, Germany. While in Berlin, Mark worked for Scientology for over 90 hours a week, earning very little money. He left Berlin in February 2008 when he was transferred to the Church of Scientology in San Francisco, where he worked until May of 2008. Since leaving Scientology Mark has been regularly sharing about his experience online in the hopes that his story can help young people, especially recent college graduates, be more aware of predatory organizations like The Church of Scientology. He has continued to pursue his education and is currently enrolled in a Master's program in Budapest, Hungary where he now resides. Mark is a historian focusing on Nationalism, Language, and Jewish Culture in Late Modern Europe. In this insightful conversation, Mark details the deceptive ways in which he was lured into joining the Scientology staff and what he believes made him vulnerable to their duplicitous tactics. Throughout the discussion, Rachel and Mark break down the ways in which Scientology exploits its staff members and explain how the controlling culture of the organization keeps its employees obedient. Before You Go: Rachel weighs in on the Scientology concept of Human Emotional Reaction (H.E.R.) explaining how it manifests and the manipulative intentions behind it. All of Rachel's video lectures are available for purchase here: <a href="http://www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/webinar.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/webinar.html</a> To help support the show monthly and get bonus episodes, shirts, and tote bags, please visit: <a href="http://www.patreon.com/indoctrination" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.patreon.com/indoctrination</a> Prefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link: <a href="http://www.paypal.me/indoctrination" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.paypal.me/indoctrination</a> Connect with us on Social Media: Twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/_indoctrination" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">twitter.com/_indoctrination</a> Facebook: <a href="http://www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcast</a> Tik Tok: <a href="http://www.tiktok.com/@indoctrinationpodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.tiktok.com/@indoctrinationpodcast</a> Instagram: <a href="http://www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast/</a> YouTube: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/rachelbernsteinlmft" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.youtube.com/rachelbernsteinlmft</a> You can always help the show for free by leaving a rating on Spotify or a review on Apple/ iTunes. It really helps the visibility of the show!

Global Labor Exploitation w/ Mark Turi

Dr. Tamara MC is a cult, child marriage, and human trafficking survivor and activist who advocates worldwide for girls and women to live free from gender-based violence. Her Ph.D. is in Applied Linguistics, and she researches how language manipulates vulnerable populations. Tamara attended Columbia University for an MFA and has been honored with residencies/fellowships in places such as Bread Loaf, Iowa Writers' Workshop, Sewanee, Ragdale, Cave Canem, VONA, and VCCA. She's published in prestigious outlets such as The New York Times, New York Magazine, Salon, The Independent, Food 52, Parents, and Thrillist. She’s currently hard at work on her debut memoir, Child Bride: My Marriage at 12. She's traveled to nearly 80 countries, mostly alone and backpacking, and is a polyglot, having studied more than six languages. She is an empty-nesting mama to two sons in their mid-20s and a grandmamma to two feisty but adorable pups, a Boston Terrier and Australian Shepherd. When she isn't writing and reading, you'll find her road cycling, running, and playing Pickleball.In this revealing and heartfelt conversation, Tamara opens up about being raised mostly in her father's high-control religious commune, and the confusing dichotomy of living partly with her secular and liberal mother. Throughout the discussion, Rachel offers insights on the negative impacts of burdening children with adult responsibility and sacrificing their education for the sake of religious devotion.Before you go: Rachel explains why it's important to take note of changing or inconsistent rules in high control groups, pointing out the often illegitimate derivation of their authority. Find more about Tamara and her work here:https://tamaramc.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/tamaramcphd/All of Rachel's video lectures are available for purchase here:www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/webinar.htmlTo help support the show monthly and get bonus episodes, shirts, and tote bags, please visit:www.patreon.com/indoctrinationPrefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link:www.paypal.me/indoctrinationConnect with us on Social Media:Twitter:twitter.com/_indoctrinationFacebook:www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcastTik Tok:www.tiktok.com/@indoctrinationpodcastInstagram:www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast/YouTube:www.youtube.com/rachelbernsteinlmftYou can always help the show for free by leaving a rating on Spotify or a review on Apple/ iTunes. It really helps the visibility of the show!

Dr. Tamara MC is a cult, child marriage, and human trafficking survivor and activist who advocates worldwide for girls and women to live free from gender-based violence. Her Ph.D. is in Applied Linguistics, and she researches how language manipulates vulnerable populations. Tamara attended Columbia University for an MFA and has been honored with residencies/fellowships in places such as Bread Loaf, Iowa Writers' Workshop, Sewanee, Ragdale, Cave Canem, VONA, and VCCA. She's published in prestigious outlets such as The New York Times, New York Magazine, Salon, The Independent, Food 52, Parents, and Thrillist. She’s currently hard at work on her debut memoir, Child Bride: My Marriage at 12. She's traveled to nearly 80 countries, mostly alone and backpacking, and is a polyglot, having studied more than six languages. She is an empty-nesting mama to two sons in their mid-20s and a grandmamma to two feisty but adorable pups, a Boston Terrier and Australian Shepherd. When she isn't writing and reading, you'll find her road cycling, running, and playing Pickleball. In this revealing and heartfelt conversation, Tamara opens up about being raised mostly in her father's high-control religious commune, and the confusing dichotomy of living partly with her secular and liberal mother. Throughout the discussion, Rachel offers insights on the negative impacts of burdening children with adult responsibility and sacrificing their education for the sake of religious devotion. Before you go: Rachel explains why it's important to take note of changing or inconsistent rules in high control groups, pointing out the often illegitimate derivation of their authority. Find more about Tamara and her work here: <a href="https://tamaramc.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://tamaramc.com/</a> <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/tamaramcphd/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.linkedin.com/in/tamaramcphd/</a> All of Rachel's video lectures are available for purchase here: <a href="http://www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/webinar.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/webinar.html</a> To help support the show monthly and get bonus episodes, shirts, and tote bags, please visit: <a href="http://www.patreon.com/indoctrination" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.patreon.com/indoctrination</a> Prefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link: <a href="http://www.paypal.me/indoctrination" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.paypal.me/indoctrination</a> Connect with us on Social Media: Twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/_indoctrination" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">twitter.com/_indoctrination</a> Facebook: <a href="http://www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcast</a> Tik Tok: <a href="http://www.tiktok.com/@indoctrinationpodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.tiktok.com/@indoctrinationpodcast</a> Instagram: <a href="http://www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast/</a> YouTube: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/rachelbernsteinlmft" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.youtube.com/rachelbernsteinlmft</a> You can always help the show for free by leaving a rating on Spotify or a review on Apple/ iTunes. It really helps the visibility of the show!

Surviving Child Marriage w/Tamara MC, Ph. D.

This is just a preview of our exclusive Patreon bonus episode. You can hear the full episode by becoming a supporter at:http://www.patreon.com/indoctrinationAndrew Pledger is a content creator, activist, and writer who uses social media to share his story and inspire others. He is a religious trauma survivor who was homeschooled K-12 and raised in a fundamentalist Christian cult (Independent Fundamental Baptist movement). He brings awareness to spiritual and religious abuse. Being a part of the LGBTQ+ community and experiencing religious trauma has inspired him to pursue psychology to help survivors. After being homeschooled, he found his way to Bob Jones University. He attended the fundamentalist Christian college for over three years until he was expelled in his last semester for sharing his story and denouncing fundamentalist teachings. Andrew comes on the show to share his experiences of the level of control and mental abuse he experienced at Bob Jones University. He has a limited podcast premiering soon called "Surviving Bob Jones University: A Christian Cult." This podcast explores the school's history, the psychology of fundamentalism, the criteria for cults, and survivors' experiences.Andrew opens up to Rachel about his complicated relationship with his 2nd generation IFB parents, he compares the high-control culture he grew up within his family with the complete authoritarian control of Bob Jones University. Together Andrew and Rachel discuss the psychological impacts on adolescents living under the constant surveillance and harsh judgment of fundamentalism.Find "Surviving BJU" and all of Andrew's other work here:https://andrewpledger.mypixieset.com/links/Thanks to all of our Patron supporters for making this episode possible!!

This is just a preview of our exclusive Patreon bonus episode. You can hear the full episode by becoming a supporter at: <a href="http://www.patreon.com/indoctrination" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.patreon.com/indoctrination</a> Andrew Pledger is a content creator, activist, and writer who uses social media to share his story and inspire others. He is a religious trauma survivor who was homeschooled K-12 and raised in a fundamentalist Christian cult (Independent Fundamental Baptist movement). He brings awareness to spiritual and religious abuse. Being a part of the LGBTQ+ community and experiencing religious trauma has inspired him to pursue psychology to help survivors. After being homeschooled, he found his way to Bob Jones University. He attended the fundamentalist Christian college for over three years until he was expelled in his last semester for sharing his story and denouncing fundamentalist teachings. Andrew comes on the show to share his experiences of the level of control and mental abuse he experienced at Bob Jones University. He has a limited podcast premiering soon called "Surviving Bob Jones University: A Christian Cult." This podcast explores the school's history, the psychology of fundamentalism, the criteria for cults, and survivors' experiences. Andrew opens up to Rachel about his complicated relationship with his 2nd generation IFB parents, he compares the high-control culture he grew up within his family with the complete authoritarian control of Bob Jones University. Together Andrew and Rachel discuss the psychological impacts on adolescents living under the constant surveillance and harsh judgment of fundamentalism. Find "Surviving BJU" and all of Andrew's other work here: <a href="https://andrewpledger.mypixieset.com/links/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://andrewpledger.mypixieset.com/links/</a> Thanks to all of our Patron supporters for making this episode possible!!

BONUS EPISODE PREVIEW: Surviving BJU w/Andrew Pledger

Alexandra Stein

Alexandra Stein, Ph.D. is a writer and educator specializing in the social psychology of ideological extremism and other dangerous social relationships. She is currently an Honorary Research Fellow at the University of Sussex. Dr. Stein offers programs and materials to help people understand how to identify and protect themselves and others from recruitment into cultic or extremist groups. She also studies and teaches about positive social relationships: "small d" democracy, inclusivity, and healthy social and personal networks that can oppose these dangerous relationships.In this information-dense conversation, Alexandra discusses her experiences as a former member of a supposedly left-wing political cult explaining how her confusion after leaving became the catalyst for her groundbreaking research into cultic dynamics. Dr. stein cites the work of Robert Jay Lifton and Janja Lalich as instrumental to her initial understanding of how she ended up under the control of an authoritarian and violent cult leader.Before You Go: Rachel offers her insights on how being involved with high-control groups or relationships can greatly impact someone's attachment style and negatively affect their ability to have healthy relationships.  You can find more about Dr. Stein's work at:  https://www.alexandrastein.com/All of Rachel's video lectures are available for purchase here:www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/webinar.htmlTo help support the show monthly and get bonus episodes, shirts, and tote bags, please visit:www.patreon.com/indoctrinationPrefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link:www.paypal.me/indoctrinationConnect with us on Social Media:Twitter:twitter.com/_indoctrinationFacebook:www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcastTik Tok:www.tiktok.com/@indoctrinationpodcastInstagram:www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast/YouTube:www.youtube.com/rachelbernsteinlmftYou can always help the show for free by leaving a rating on Spotify or a review on Apple/ iTunes. It really helps the visibility of the show!

Alexandra Stein, Ph.D. is a writer and educator specializing in the social psychology of ideological extremism and other dangerous social relationships. She is currently an Honorary Research Fellow at the University of Sussex. Dr. Stein offers programs and materials to help people understand how to identify and protect themselves and others from recruitment into cultic or extremist groups. She also studies and teaches about positive social relationships: "small d" democracy, inclusivity, and healthy social and personal networks that can oppose these dangerous relationships. In this information-dense conversation, Alexandra discusses her experiences as a former member of a supposedly left-wing political cult explaining how her confusion after leaving became the catalyst for her groundbreaking research into cultic dynamics. Dr. stein cites the work of Robert Jay Lifton and Janja Lalich as instrumental to her initial understanding of how she ended up under the control of an authoritarian and violent cult leader. Before You Go: Rachel offers her insights on how being involved with high-control groups or relationships can greatly impact someone's attachment style and negatively affect their ability to have healthy relationships. You can find more about Dr. Stein's work at: <a href="https://www.alexandrastein.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.alexandrastein.com/</a> All of Rachel's video lectures are available for purchase here: <a href="http://www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/webinar.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/webinar.html</a> To help support the show monthly and get bonus episodes, shirts, and tote bags, please visit: <a href="http://www.patreon.com/indoctrination" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.patreon.com/indoctrination</a> Prefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link: <a href="http://www.paypal.me/indoctrination" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.paypal.me/indoctrination</a> Connect with us on Social Media: Twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/_indoctrination" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">twitter.com/_indoctrination</a> Facebook: <a href="http://www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcast</a> Tik Tok: <a href="http://www.tiktok.com/@indoctrinationpodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.tiktok.com/@indoctrinationpodcast</a> Instagram: <a href="http://www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast/</a> YouTube: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/rachelbernsteinlmft" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.youtube.com/rachelbernsteinlmft</a> You can always help the show for free by leaving a rating on Spotify or a review on Apple/ iTunes. It really helps the visibility of the show!

Terror, Love, & Brainwashing w/Dr. Alexandra Stein

Pamela Jackson is a licensed clinical social worker, LCSW, and creative nonfiction writer. She specializes in therapy for adult women who have estranged or difficult relationships with their mothers. After leaving the ICOC cult, Pamela attempted to repair her relationship with hermother, one of the main reasons she was vulnerable to the love bombing and manipulation of ICOC. The mother-daughter conversations ultimately failed but also became the inspiration to her private practice, supporting women to re-parent themselves. Pamela has just completed her first memoir about the journey of mothering while unmothered, some of her client’s stories, and how leaving the cult eventually led her to find a Mother within. Pamela earned a Bachelor's from The New School, a Masters's degree in Fine Arts from Sarah Lawrence College, and a Masters’s degree in Social Work from Silberman School of Social Work at Hunter College. She is a co-parent to her bold, joyful daughter.In this intimate conversation, Pamela opens up about her time as a follower of the ICOC and how it relates to her complex relationship with her mother. Pamela goes on to explain how she navigated her mothers' narcissistic tendencies and found identity as an artist despite the complicated entanglements that shaped her upbringing.Before You Go: Rachel explains how the appeal of a structured life can keep followers trapped in high-control groups, but also prime them for abusive relationships.Find more about Pamela and her work here: https://www.allomothering.orgFollow Pamela on Social Media:Instagram: pamela.s.jacksonFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/pamelasjacksonMedium: https://medium.com/@pamelasjacksonAll of Rachel's video lectures are available for purchase here:www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/webinar.htmlTo help support the show monthly and get bonus episodes, shirts, and tote bags, please visit:www.patreon.com/indoctrinationPrefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link:www.paypal.me/indoctrinationConnect with us on Social Media:Twitter:twitter.com/_indoctrinationFacebook:www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcastTik Tok:www.tiktok.com/@indoctrinationpodcastInstagram:www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast/YouTube:www.youtube.com/rachelbernsteinlmftYou can always help the show for free by leaving a rating on Spotify or a review on Apple/ iTunes. It really helps the visibility of the show!

Pamela Jackson is a licensed clinical social worker, LCSW, and creative nonfiction writer. She specializes in therapy for adult women who have estranged or difficult relationships with their mothers. After leaving the ICOC cult, Pamela attempted to repair her relationship with her mother, one of the main reasons she was vulnerable to the love bombing and manipulation of ICOC. The mother-daughter conversations ultimately failed but also became the inspiration to her private practice, supporting women to re-parent themselves. Pamela has just completed her first memoir about the journey of mothering while unmothered, some of her client’s stories, and how leaving the cult eventually led her to find a Mother within. Pamela earned a Bachelor's from The New School, a Masters's degree in Fine Arts from Sarah Lawrence College, and a Masters’s degree in Social Work from Silberman School of Social Work at Hunter College. She is a co-parent to her bold, joyful daughter. In this intimate conversation, Pamela opens up about her time as a follower of the ICOC and how it relates to her complex relationship with her mother. Pamela goes on to explain how she navigated her mothers' narcissistic tendencies and found identity as an artist despite the complicated entanglements that shaped her upbringing. Before You Go: Rachel explains how the appeal of a structured life can keep followers trapped in high-control groups, but also prime them for abusive relationships. Find more about Pamela and her work here: <a href="https://www.allomothering.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.allomothering.org</a> Follow Pamela on Social Media: Instagram: pamela.s.jackson Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/pamelasjackson" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/pamelasjackson</a> Medium: <a href="https://medium.com/@pamelasjackson" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://medium.com/@pamelasjackson</a> All of Rachel's video lectures are available for purchase here: <a href="http://www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/webinar.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/webinar.html</a> To help support the show monthly and get bonus episodes, shirts, and tote bags, please visit: <a href="http://www.patreon.com/indoctrination" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.patreon.com/indoctrination</a> Prefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link: <a href="http://www.paypal.me/indoctrination" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.paypal.me/indoctrination</a> Connect with us on Social Media: Twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/_indoctrination" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">twitter.com/_indoctrination</a> Facebook: <a href="http://www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcast</a> Tik Tok: <a href="http://www.tiktok.com/@indoctrinationpodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.tiktok.com/@indoctrinationpodcast</a> Instagram: <a href="http://www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast/</a> YouTube: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/rachelbernsteinlmft" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.youtube.com/rachelbernsteinlmft</a> You can always help the show for free by leaving a rating on Spotify or a review on Apple/ iTunes. It really helps the visibility of the show!

Re-Mothering w/Pamela Jackson, LCSW

Marissa Hackett

This is just a preview of our exclusive Patreon bonus episode. You can hear the full episode by becoming a supporter at:www.patreon.com/indoctrinationReturning guest, Marissa Hackett was born in 1979 in Los Angeles, California. At the time of her birth, her parents were involved with a group called the Foundation of Human Understanding, a right-wing cult led by Roy Masters. When Marissa was 11 years old, she moved with her family to Southern Oregon, where Roy moved the headquarters of the group and opened the only school Marissa attended in her childhood, Brighton Academy. As a black family, this experience created unique challenges for Marissa as she navigated life.Today, Marissa lives in Seattle and identifies as a fierce progressive. She's a proud auntie, sister, daughter, niece, godmother, and friend. She shares a life with her partner and husband, Aaron. Marissa absolutely loves music and being in nature. She currently resides in Seattle, Washington where she is a grad student in Couples and Family Therapy at Antioch University.In this follow-up conversation, Marissa provides updates on her familial relationships and healing journey since sharing her story for the first time. She offers insights on how she's been able to successfully reconcile a relationship with her father while maintaining her perspective on the damaging experiences she suffered as a child.Find Marissa's blog on Substack here:marissahackett.substack.com/Thanks to all of our Patreon supporters for making this episode possible!

This is just a preview of our exclusive Patreon bonus episode. You can hear the full episode by becoming a supporter at: <a href="http://www.patreon.com/indoctrination" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.patreon.com/indoctrination</a> Returning guest, Marissa Hackett was born in 1979 in Los Angeles, California. At the time of her birth, her parents were involved with a group called the Foundation of Human Understanding, a right-wing cult led by Roy Masters. When Marissa was 11 years old, she moved with her family to Southern Oregon, where Roy moved the headquarters of the group and opened the only school Marissa attended in her childhood, Brighton Academy. As a black family, this experience created unique challenges for Marissa as she navigated life. Today, Marissa lives in Seattle and identifies as a fierce progressive. She's a proud auntie, sister, daughter, niece, godmother, and friend. She shares a life with her partner and husband, Aaron. Marissa absolutely loves music and being in nature. She currently resides in Seattle, Washington where she is a grad student in Couples and Family Therapy at Antioch University. In this follow-up conversation, Marissa provides updates on her familial relationships and healing journey since sharing her story for the first time. She offers insights on how she's been able to successfully reconcile a relationship with her father while maintaining her perspective on the damaging experiences she suffered as a child. Find Marissa's blog on Substack here: <a href="http://marissahackett.substack.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">marissahackett.substack.com/</a> Thanks to all of our Patreon supporters for making this episode possible!

BONUS EPISODE PREVIEW: Post-Cult Reconciliation w/ Marissa Hackett

Laura Anderson

Dr. Laura Anderson is a therapist, trauma resolution, and recovery coach, writer, educator, and creator who specializes in complex trauma with a focus on domestic violence, sexualized violence, and religious trauma. She holds a Master’s degree in Marriage and Family Therapy and a Ph.D. in Mind-Body Medicine with her research focusing on the experience of living in a healing body after sexual trauma. Laura has a small private practice in Nashville, TN, and is the founder and director of the Center for Trauma Resolution and Recovery, an online coaching company where she and the other practitioners work with clients who have experienced high demand/high control religions, adverse religious experiences, cults, and religious trauma.  In 2019, Laura co-founded the Religious Trauma Institute with the goal of providing trauma-informed resources, consultation, and training to clinicians and other helping professionals who work with religious trauma survivors. Laura’s first book, “When Religion Hurts: Reclaiming Your Life After Religious Trauma”, is being released by Brazos Press in Fall 2023. She lives with her dog, Phoebe, in Middle Tennessee.In this highly informative and revealing conversation. Dr. Anderson shares with Rachel her personal experience and professional insights from the specialized work she does with survivors of religious trauma. The two colleagues discuss the most effective modalities for religious trauma recovery and outline some important nuances that often get overlooked on the path to healing.Before you go: Rachel offers some common traits to look out for in high-control religious groups to assess whether or not the leader's intentions are healthy.You can find more about Dr. Andreson and her work at:https://drlauraeanderson.com/All of Rachel's video lectures are available for purchase here:rachelbernsteintherapy.com/webinar.htmlTo help support the show monthly and get bonus episodes, shirts, and tote bags, please visit:www.patreon.com/indoctrinationPrefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link:www.paypal.me/indoctrinationConnect with us on Social Media:Twitter:twitter.com/_indoctrinationFacebook:www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcastTik Tok:www.tiktok.com/@indoctrinationpodcastInstagram:www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast/YouTube:www.youtube.com/rachelbernsteinlmftYou can always help the show for free by leaving a rating on Spotify or a review on Apple/ iTunes. It really helps the visibility of the show!

Dr. Laura Anderson is a therapist, trauma resolution, and recovery coach, writer, educator, and creator who specializes in complex trauma with a focus on domestic violence, sexualized violence, and religious trauma. She holds a Master’s degree in Marriage and Family Therapy and a Ph.D. in Mind-Body Medicine with her research focusing on the experience of living in a healing body after sexual trauma. Laura has a small private practice in Nashville, TN, and is the founder and director of the Center for Trauma Resolution and Recovery, an online coaching company where she and the other practitioners work with clients who have experienced high demand/high control religions, adverse religious experiences, cults, and religious trauma. In 2019, Laura co-founded the Religious Trauma Institute with the goal of providing trauma-informed resources, consultation, and training to clinicians and other helping professionals who work with religious trauma survivors. Laura’s first book, “When Religion Hurts: Reclaiming Your Life After Religious Trauma”, is being released by Brazos Press in Fall 2023. She lives with her dog, Phoebe, in Middle Tennessee. In this highly informative and revealing conversation. Dr. Anderson shares with Rachel her personal experience and professional insights from the specialized work she does with survivors of religious trauma. The two colleagues discuss the most effective modalities for religious trauma recovery and outline some important nuances that often get overlooked on the path to healing. Before you go: Rachel offers some common traits to look out for in high-control religious groups to assess whether or not the leader's intentions are healthy. You can find more about Dr. Andreson and her work at: <a href="https://drlauraeanderson.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://drlauraeanderson.com/</a> All of Rachel's video lectures are available for purchase here: <a href="http://rachelbernsteintherapy.com/webinar.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">rachelbernsteintherapy.com/webinar.html</a> To help support the show monthly and get bonus episodes, shirts, and tote bags, please visit: <a href="http://www.patreon.com/indoctrination" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.patreon.com/indoctrination</a> Prefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link: <a href="http://www.paypal.me/indoctrination" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.paypal.me/indoctrination</a> Connect with us on Social Media: Twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/_indoctrination" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">twitter.com/_indoctrination</a> Facebook: <a href="http://www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcast</a> Tik Tok: <a href="http://www.tiktok.com/@indoctrinationpodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.tiktok.com/@indoctrinationpodcast</a> Instagram: <a href="http://www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast/</a> YouTube: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/rachelbernsteinlmft" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.youtube.com/rachelbernsteinlmft</a> You can always help the show for free by leaving a rating on Spotify or a review on Apple/ iTunes. It really helps the visibility of the show!

An Abusive Relationship With God w/Dr. Laura Anderson

Kayla is a YouTube creator and launched her channel Keya's World back in 2021 to discuss toxic positivity, hustle culture, self-help, spirituality, scams, and everything in between. Kayla started her career in the broadcast &amp; digital journalism industry and still uses her research and storytelling skills while creating her content. Kayla is a former personal development fan who thought the industry was the key to finding success in her life. However, Kayla experienced firsthand how the self-help and wellness industry can be full of manipulation, clever marketing, and red flags. Now she is on a mission to help expose some of the tactics that can lead well-meaning "seekers" astray.Kayla opens up to Rachel about her experience in the personal development and wellness community, explaining how her involvement with alternative forms of counseling led her to uncover a world fraught with deception and fraud. She explains how her own bad experience became the catalyst for the important and often hilarious work she does now, combining her skills in journalism and media production with her knowledge of the inner workings of this problematic industry.Before You Go: Rachel shares from her own perspective as an LMFT, how both the unregulated as well as regulated counseling industries don't always provide the consumer protection they should and how to be aware of red flags when seeking help. Make sure to subscribe to Kayla's wonderful YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/keyasworldFollow Kayla on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/keyasworldyt/?hl=enAll of Rachel's video lectures are available for purchase here:rachelbernsteintherapy.com/webinar.htmlTo help support the show monthly and get bonus episodes, shirts, and tote bags, please visit:www.patreon.com/indoctrinationPrefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link:www.paypal.me/indoctrinationConnect with us on Social Media:Twitter:twitter.com/_indoctrinationFacebook:www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcastTik Tok:www.tiktok.com/@indoctrinationpodcastInstagram:www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast/YouTube:www.youtube.com/rachelbernsteinlmftYou can always help the show for free by leaving a rating on Spotify or a review on Apple/ iTunes. It really helps the visibility of the show!

Kayla is a YouTube creator and launched her channel Keya's World back in 2021 to discuss toxic positivity, hustle culture, self-help, spirituality, scams, and everything in between. Kayla started her career in the broadcast &amp; digital journalism industry and still uses her research and storytelling skills while creating her content. Kayla is a former personal development fan who thought the industry was the key to finding success in her life. However, Kayla experienced firsthand how the self-help and wellness industry can be full of manipulation, clever marketing, and red flags. Now she is on a mission to help expose some of the tactics that can lead well-meaning "seekers" astray. Kayla opens up to Rachel about her experience in the personal development and wellness community, explaining how her involvement with alternative forms of counseling led her to uncover a world fraught with deception and fraud. She explains how her own bad experience became the catalyst for the important and often hilarious work she does now, combining her skills in journalism and media production with her knowledge of the inner workings of this problematic industry. Before You Go: Rachel shares from her own perspective as an LMFT, how both the unregulated as well as regulated counseling industries don't always provide the consumer protection they should and how to be aware of red flags when seeking help. Make sure to subscribe to Kayla's wonderful YouTube Channel: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/c/keyasworld" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/c/keyasworld</a> Follow Kayla on Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/keyasworldyt/?hl=en" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.instagram.com/keyasworldyt/?hl=en</a> All of Rachel's video lectures are available for purchase here: <a href="http://rachelbernsteintherapy.com/webinar.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">rachelbernsteintherapy.com/webinar.html</a> To help support the show monthly and get bonus episodes, shirts, and tote bags, please visit: <a href="http://www.patreon.com/indoctrination" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.patreon.com/indoctrination</a> Prefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link: <a href="http://www.paypal.me/indoctrination" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.paypal.me/indoctrination</a> Connect with us on Social Media: Twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/_indoctrination" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">twitter.com/_indoctrination</a> Facebook: <a href="http://www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcast</a> Tik Tok: <a href="http://www.tiktok.com/@indoctrinationpodcast" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.tiktok.com/@indoctrinationpodcast</a> Instagram: <a href="http://www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast/</a> YouTube: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/rachelbernsteinlmft" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.youtube.com/rachelbernsteinlmft</a> You can always help the show for free by leaving a rating on Spotify or a review on Apple/ iTunes. It really helps the visibility of the show!

Analyzing Word Salad w/Kayla from Keya's World

This is just a preview of our exclusive Patreon bonus episode. You can hear the full episode by becoming a supporter at:www.patreon.com/indoctrinationReturning guest Christa Lester‐Pitsch is a survivor of an offshoot of the infamous cult known as The Way. She was born into and escaped the high‐control religious group, River Road Fellowship at the age of 23. Christa’s main goal in sharing her story is to help people who might find themselves in similar situations as the one she was in. She runs an Instagram page called The Survivor Experience with the hope that others going through similar situations of escaping control and abuse can know that they are not alone. Despite this experience being a big part of her past, and despite her desire to share it, Christa believes that it is one of the less interesting things about her today, Christa is an artist, a musician, and a mom to a spunky little boy. She resides in Bellingham, Washington with her husband Lucas, her son Mason, and their miniature labradoodle, Shiloh.In this follow-up conversation with Rachel, Christa continues her story of survival, explaining the details of her exit from River Road Fellowship and highlighting the difficult experiences of leaving behind all that she has ever known in pursuit of freedom from the all-encompassing control she lived under for her entire life.Thanks to all of our Patreon supporters for making this episode possible!

This is just a preview of our exclusive Patreon bonus episode. You can hear the full episode by becoming a supporter at: <a href="http://www.patreon.com/indoctrination" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.patreon.com/indoctrination</a> Returning guest Christa Lester‐Pitsch is a survivor of an offshoot of the infamous cult known as The Way. She was born into and escaped the high‐control religious group, River Road Fellowship at the age of 23. Christa’s main goal in sharing her story is to help people who might find themselves in similar situations as the one she was in. She runs an Instagram page called The Survivor Experience with the hope that others going through similar situations of escaping control and abuse can know that they are not alone. Despite this experience being a big part of her past, and despite her desire to share it, Christa believes that it is one of the less interesting things about her today, Christa is an artist, a musician, and a mom to a spunky little boy. She resides in Bellingham, Washington with her husband Lucas, her son Mason, and their miniature labradoodle, Shiloh. In this follow-up conversation with Rachel, Christa continues her story of survival, explaining the details of her exit from River Road Fellowship and highlighting the difficult experiences of leaving behind all that she has ever known in pursuit of freedom from the all-encompassing control she lived under for her entire life. Thanks to all of our Patreon supporters for making this episode possible!

BONUS EPISODE PREVIEW: The Road To Recovery w/Christa Lester‐Pitsch

Very informative...thank you, Rachel, and thanks to your guests!

Informative

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IndoctriNation

Sarabeth Kapusta

Earlier in the season, Rachel spoke with Cyndy Rudd: a mother who fought to free her daughter from not one, but two cultic situations. This week we hear the inside story from her daughter, Sarabeth.Sarabeth grew up in a cult for 25 years before falling into another group masquerading as a Baptist church. In both groups, members were not allowed to question authority because that would be challenging God's word. Her faith in scripture was used to convince her to move in with several other young women and live above the pastor's garage. Sarabeth also talks about a phenomenon she has experienced in both groups idealizing submissive women: the requirement to grow up and support the men by being a stay-at-home daughter. With the mind of an attorney and educator, she was able, in retrospect, to decode her manipulator and realize that both cults were using scripture out of context to create fear and control. Stay tuned, Before You Go: How cult leaders and narcissists warp your intentions and turn your true character and innocent nature into something seen as sinister. Rachel opens up about one of her own experiences. Next week mother and daughter sit down together to have a conversation they've never had before. Listen to Cyndy's story, "No Match for a Mother's Love": https://soundcloud.com/indoctrinationshow/cyndy

Earlier in the season, Rachel spoke with Cyndy Rudd: a mother who fought to free her daughter from not one, but two cultic situations. This week we hear the inside story from her daughter, Sarabeth. Sarabeth grew up in a cult for 25 years before falling into another group masquerading as a Baptist church. In both groups, members were not allowed to question authority because that would be challenging God's word. Her faith in scripture was used to convince her to move in with several other young women and live above the pastor's garage. Sarabeth also talks about a phenomenon she has experienced in both groups idealizing submissive women: the requirement to grow up and support the men by being a stay-at-home daughter. With the mind of an attorney and educator, she was able, in retrospect, to decode her manipulator and realize that both cults were using scripture out of context to create fear and control. Stay tuned, Before You Go: How cult leaders and narcissists warp your intentions and turn your true character and innocent nature into something seen as sinister. Rachel opens up about one of her own experiences. Next week mother and daughter sit down together to have a conversation they've never had before. Listen to Cyndy's story, "No Match for a Mother's Love": <a href="https://soundcloud.com/indoctrinationshow/cyndy" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://soundcloud.com/indoctrinationshow/cyndy</a>

Ashamed of Being a Woman w/ Sarabeth Kapusta, survivor - S5E4pt2

Catherine Oxenberg

IndoctriNation presents its first re-release from 10 months ago, when Rachel was joined by Catherine Oxenberg who had been fighting to pull her daughter away from the cult NXIVM. They discuss her book, Captive, and her daughter India's experience during and after leaving the group.Run by Keith Raniere, who was just convicted on all charges on June 19, 2019, the organization was heavily bankrolled by billionaire Seagram's heiress Clare Bronfman and others. Catherine consulted Rachel after discovering that her daughter was recruited into the secret upper-echelon called "DOS", where its members were nearly starved and branded.There will be a follow-up episode with Catherine soon!Stay tuned, Before You Go: Explore the struggle of stepping in as a parent to an adult who is being manipulated by undue influence. Rachel encourages people who care about their loved ones in compromising situations to ask hard questions, even if it means being seen as critical.

IndoctriNation presents its first re-release from 10 months ago, when Rachel was joined by Catherine Oxenberg who had been fighting to pull her daughter away from the cult NXIVM. They discuss her book, Captive, and her daughter India's experience during and after leaving the group. Run by Keith Raniere, who was just convicted on all charges on June 19, 2019, the organization was heavily bankrolled by billionaire Seagram's heiress Clare Bronfman and others. Catherine consulted Rachel after discovering that her daughter was recruited into the secret upper-echelon called "DOS", where its members were nearly starved and branded. There will be a follow-up episode with Catherine soon! Stay tuned, Before You Go: Explore the struggle of stepping in as a parent to an adult who is being manipulated by undue influence. Rachel encourages people who care about their loved ones in compromising situations to ask hard questions, even if it means being seen as critical.

Escaping NXIVM w/ Catherine Oxenberg Re-Release - S2E4pt1

April’s former fear of psychology, medication, therapy, and even yoga were ingrained from a young age as she grew up in the Church of Scientology. She was taught to view mental health specialists as people who only wanted to capitalize on other people’s problems, and issue brainwashing medications. Scientology auditing replaced programs that could be helpful, and instead used their power to take advantage of the participants’ fears and need for acceptance. Rachel and April discuss the cause of epidemic suicide in young people who have no one to turn to outside of an abusive organization, after going through behavior modifications.Stay tuned, Before You Go: Rachel offers advice for breaking the cycle of manipulation when an abuser refuses to acknowledge their role. She encourages those who feel guilty for speaking up or taking action to be confident in their critical thinking skills.

April’s former fear of psychology, medication, therapy, and even yoga were ingrained from a young age as she grew up in the Church of Scientology. She was taught to view mental health specialists as people who only wanted to capitalize on other people’s problems, and issue brainwashing medications. Scientology auditing replaced programs that could be helpful, and instead used their power to take advantage of the participants’ fears and need for acceptance. Rachel and April discuss the cause of epidemic suicide in young people who have no one to turn to outside of an abusive organization, after going through behavior modifications. Stay tuned, Before You Go: Rachel offers advice for breaking the cycle of manipulation when an abuser refuses to acknowledge their role. She encourages those who feel guilty for speaking up or taking action to be confident in their critical thinking skills.

"You Only Know What You Know" w/ April, ex-Scientology - S3E15pt1

Rachel Bernstein

Have you ever wanted to know what it's like to be with a narcissist? Rachel walks us through a deep psychoanalysis of narcissistic types; tying in real stories from her experience as a therapist.Learn tips to distinguish bad social behavior from manipulation. Unfortunately, this type of abuse can be present in relationships with parents, partners, employers-- people you should be able to trust. Some take advantage of others' loyalty for their own benefit. Rachel debunks common excuses they use to dismiss their own behavior and project blame onto their victim.Hear Rachel's first solo episode, "Home Invasion": https://soundcloud.com/indoctrinationshow/episode-16-home-invasionStay tuned, Before You Go: Rachel shares the story of a girl whose relationship with her narcissistic father led to her being manipulated again by her partner as an adult. She describes many of the unhealthy relationships she's seen as a therapist and gives advice on separating yourself from a parasitic person.Have you been in a relationship with a narcissist? Share your story in the comments, or the IndoctriNation Facebook Discussion Page.

Have you ever wanted to know what it's like to be with a narcissist? Rachel walks us through a deep psychoanalysis of narcissistic types; tying in real stories from her experience as a therapist. Learn tips to distinguish bad social behavior from manipulation. Unfortunately, this type of abuse can be present in relationships with parents, partners, employers-- people you should be able to trust. Some take advantage of others' loyalty for their own benefit. Rachel debunks common excuses they use to dismiss their own behavior and project blame onto their victim. Hear Rachel's first solo episode, "Home Invasion": <a href="https://soundcloud.com/indoctrinationshow/episode-16-home-invasion" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://soundcloud.com/indoctrinationshow/episode-16-home-invasion</a> Stay tuned, Before You Go: Rachel shares the story of a girl whose relationship with her narcissistic father led to her being manipulated again by her partner as an adult. She describes many of the unhealthy relationships she's seen as a therapist and gives advice on separating yourself from a parasitic person. Have you been in a relationship with a narcissist? Share your story in the comments, or the IndoctriNation Facebook Discussion Page.

Parasitic Relationships w/ Rachel Bernstein, LMFT - S4E14pt1

Vanessa LaRose

After being disconnected from her Scientologist parents for some time, Vanessa LaRose has decided it's finally time to break ties with the "church". She shares how she found Rachel through an underground network and ironically began to study psychology and therapy after fearing it for so long.Vanessa grew up with some of the top Scientology schooling and businesses. She has agreed to share her experience, though she's still in the process of disconnecting from the organization which includes an intense shunning process. Vanessa shares what she knows about how and why the group worked to become recognized as a religion, and explains some Scientology terms.Stay tuned, Before You Go: Rachel debunks the Oxford personality test distributed to recruit people into Scientology, and invites folks to find out more before taking a test that can alter the way you see yourself. Learn more about the Oxford Personality test from Chris Shelton's video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5F7Tw3XmCA&amp;t=824s

After being disconnected from her Scientologist parents for some time, Vanessa LaRose has decided it's finally time to break ties with the "church". She shares how she found Rachel through an underground network and ironically began to study psychology and therapy after fearing it for so long. Vanessa grew up with some of the top Scientology schooling and businesses. She has agreed to share her experience, though she's still in the process of disconnecting from the organization which includes an intense shunning process. Vanessa shares what she knows about how and why the group worked to become recognized as a religion, and explains some Scientology terms. Stay tuned, Before You Go: Rachel debunks the Oxford personality test distributed to recruit people into Scientology, and invites folks to find out more before taking a test that can alter the way you see yourself. Learn more about the Oxford Personality test from Chris Shelton's video: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5F7Tw3XmCA&amp;t=824s" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5F7Tw3XmCA&amp;t=824s</a>

Join Vanessa LaRose as she exits Scientology - S4E11pt1

Vanessa LaRose's father worked extremely hard to hire a Scientology counselor because it was the only other option within the rules of the group that could potentially help her with anxiety and depression. She continues explaining how her experience with auditing-- and training to become an auditor-- has impacted her goals.A third video interview with Vanessa is available this weekend on Patreon. She explains more Scientology techniques such as "training routines" that promote dissociation. She also offers tips for restoring your mindfulness and taking back control of your mental health. Support the show as a Patron for perks and extra content!Stay tuned, Before You Go: What are the signs of depression- and what could be causing it?

Vanessa LaRose's father worked extremely hard to hire a Scientology counselor because it was the only other option within the rules of the group that could potentially help her with anxiety and depression. She continues explaining how her experience with auditing-- and training to become an auditor-- has impacted her goals. A third video interview with Vanessa is available this weekend on Patreon. She explains more Scientology techniques such as "training routines" that promote dissociation. She also offers tips for restoring your mindfulness and taking back control of your mental health. Support the show as a Patron for perks and extra content! Stay tuned, Before You Go: What are the signs of depression- and what could be causing it?

Detouring My Depression w/ Vanessa LaRose - S4E11pt2

Today we begin a new year! For many, this is a much needed fresh start. Sands Hall, playwright and author of "Reclaiming my Decade Lost in Scientology" talks about how to take back what can seem like lost years.A common phrase among many survivors of abusive organizations is "I can't believe how many years I did that". Most people don't believe that they could slowly be indoctrinated to believe in things that are contradictory to their character. When a person leaves a manipulative group, they have to learn to trust themselves and face their learned fears, especially when speaking out against an abuser. Sands's fears came true, but she and her story stood strong-- when Scientology attempted to remove her book from Amazon. You can find her book on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Flunk-Start-Reclaiming-Decade-Scientology-ebook/dp/B071P44P9RStay tuned, Before You Go: People often forget how their minds can be changed; little by little. Rachel explains Sands Hall's phrase "screwing on the viewfinder", used to describe the way one's worldview can be altered in microscopic increments.IndoctriNation is starting its fifth season and the New Year by announcing another call-in episode! This show will focus on beginning a new chapter in your life. What motivated you to leave a damaging situation and what has helped you as you follow a new path? You can also ask Rachel any questions you may have that might help you along your journey.Call and leave Rachel a voicemail, at:1-(818)-907-0036or send an email at:indoctrinationshow@gmail.com

Today we begin a new year! For many, this is a much needed fresh start. Sands Hall, playwright and author of "Reclaiming my Decade Lost in Scientology" talks about how to take back what can seem like lost years. A common phrase among many survivors of abusive organizations is "I can't believe how many years I did that". Most people don't believe that they could slowly be indoctrinated to believe in things that are contradictory to their character. When a person leaves a manipulative group, they have to learn to trust themselves and face their learned fears, especially when speaking out against an abuser. Sands's fears came true, but she and her story stood strong-- when Scientology attempted to remove her book from Amazon. You can find her book on Amazon: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Flunk-Start-Reclaiming-Decade-Scientology-ebook/dp/B071P44P9R" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.com/Flunk-Start-Reclaiming-Decade-Scientology-ebook/dp/B071P44P9R</a> Stay tuned, Before You Go: People often forget how their minds can be changed; little by little. Rachel explains Sands Hall's phrase "screwing on the viewfinder", used to describe the way one's worldview can be altered in microscopic increments. IndoctriNation is starting its fifth season and the New Year by announcing another call-in episode! This show will focus on beginning a new chapter in your life. What motivated you to leave a damaging situation and what has helped you as you follow a new path? You can also ask Rachel any questions you may have that might help you along your journey. Call and leave Rachel a voicemail, at: 1-(818)-907-0036 or send an email at: indoctrinationshow@gmail.com

Taking Back Time w/ Sands Hall, ex-Scientologist - S5E1

How do you get strong enough to leave someone when you've felt shaky for so long? Narcissists have a way of pushing your needs aside and making you believe that decisions you make for yourself are the wrong ones. Rachel encourages listeners to find the strength to set boundaries and stick to them. Listen to Part 1 here: https://soundcloud.com/indoctrinationshow/rachel-on-narcissismBefore You Go: Why do people stay so long in relationships that are unhealthy?

How do you get strong enough to leave someone when you've felt shaky for so long? Narcissists have a way of pushing your needs aside and making you believe that decisions you make for yourself are the wrong ones. Rachel encourages listeners to find the strength to set boundaries and stick to them. Listen to Part 1 here: <a href="https://soundcloud.com/indoctrinationshow/rachel-on-narcissism" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://soundcloud.com/indoctrinationshow/rachel-on-narcissism</a> Before You Go: Why do people stay so long in relationships that are unhealthy?

Do I Stay or Do I Go? w/ Rachel Bernstein, LMFT - S4E14pt2

Katharina Meredith

CW: Abuse against childrenKatharina Meredith is a PhD student studying subjects like Community Psychology and Extremism after spending her childhood in a cult called Lichtoase. The New Age beliefs of Lichotase (translated to Light Oasis) were modeled off of Ramtha's school and adapted into workshops across Germany and Austria. Eventually, the group formed communes where children were raised separately from their parents by caretakers who never cared for children themselves. Katharina's parents joined the cult when she was 10 years old. After leaving the cult 17 years ago, she has helped to further develop and eventually spearhead the non-profit Stronger After which was started by Rachel Bernstein, Lee Marsh, and Frances Peters.Learn more on about this program at:Stronger-After.orgStay tuned, Before You Go: Peer pressure. Where is the social tension really coming from?

CW: Abuse against children Katharina Meredith is a PhD student studying subjects like Community Psychology and Extremism after spending her childhood in a cult called Lichtoase. The New Age beliefs of Lichotase (translated to Light Oasis) were modeled off of Ramtha's school and adapted into workshops across Germany and Austria. Eventually, the group formed communes where children were raised separately from their parents by caretakers who never cared for children themselves. Katharina's parents joined the cult when she was 10 years old. After leaving the cult 17 years ago, she has helped to further develop and eventually spearhead the non-profit Stronger After which was started by Rachel Bernstein, Lee Marsh, and Frances Peters. Learn more on about this program at: <a href="http://Stronger-After.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Stronger-After.org</a> Stay tuned, Before You Go: Peer pressure. Where is the social tension really coming from?

The Experiment w/ Katharina Meredith ex-Lichtoase (Light Oasis) cult - S5E5pt1

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