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Dr. Drew and Bob Forrest from MTV's Celebrity Rehab join forces to address all things about THIS LIFE regarding sobriety and normy culture with celebrity guests. PLUS, A NEW BONUS! Recent episodes of THIS LIFE #YOULIVE, an interactive caller Facebook Live/ You Tube spin off show with popular co-host Mike Catherwood of Loveline. This Life With Dr. Drew #YOULIVE is taking calls. Go to Facebook/Drdrew and YouTube/Drdrew or Drdrew.com for details.

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Dr. Drew and Bob Forrest from MTV's Celebrity Rehab join forces to address all things about THIS LIFE regarding sobriety and normy culture with celebrity guests. PLUS, A NEW BONUS! Recent episodes of THIS LIFE #YOULIVE, an interactive caller Facebook Live/ You Tube spin off show with popular co-host Mike Catherwood of Loveline. This Life With Dr. Drew #YOULIVE is taking calls. Go to Facebook/Drdrew and YouTube/Drdrew or Drdrew.com for details.

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Favorite Drew show

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Im glad it’s back! Keep making more.

Dave from Dopey

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iTunes Ratings

477 Ratings
Average Ratings
398
29
23
7
20

Favorite Drew show

By TPA845 - Aug 20 2019
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Im glad it’s back! Keep making more.

Dave from Dopey

By alansgroupieūüėČ - Jun 03 2019
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Dave + Dr. Drew = ūüíú Such a good combo
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This Life #YOULIVE With Dr Drew

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Dr. Drew and Bob Forrest from MTV's Celebrity Rehab join forces to address all things about THIS LIFE regarding sobriety and normy culture with celebrity guests. PLUS, A NEW BONUS! Recent episodes of THIS LIFE #YOULIVE, an interactive caller Facebook Live/ You Tube spin off show with popular co-host Mike Catherwood of Loveline. This Life With Dr. Drew #YOULIVE is taking calls. Go to Facebook/Drdrew and YouTube/Drdrew or Drdrew.com for details.

Rank #1: This Life 47: The Elephant (And The Donkey) In The Room

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Dr. Bruce Heischober and Dr. Drew interpret the major candidates health issues while Bob tries to keep them real.

Outro music “Don't Let Me Down“ The Chainsmokers cover by Postmodern Jukebox (feat. Rayvon Owen). Available on iTunes. 

Sponsored by Bergametna.com and AloRecovery.com

Sep 19 2016

1hr 17mins

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Rank #2: This Life 19: Mike Catherwood and Bianca Kajlich

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Loveline's Mike Catherwood and Undateable's Bianca Kajlich AKA Mrs. Mike Catherwood, discuss their personal life behind the scenes and child rearing. Questions arise abut risk of addiction in our own children and how to discuss your drug history. Outro Music: Shelita Burke "Swim"

Mar 14 2016

1hr 12mins

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Rank #3: This Life 40: Anderson Cowan

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Longtime LOVELINE engineer Anderson Cowan catches us up on what he’s been up to since the 33 year radio show went off air in May, 2016. Anderson is busy working on his podcasts CinemAddicts, Film Vault and After Disaster as well as his forays into film making. Sponsored by ALORECOVERY.COM and BregametNA.Com

Outro Music: Lance Is A Genius “Say Yes" (Netflix) (Feat. Mkla),  available on iTunes. 

Aug 01 2016

58mins

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Rank #4: This Life 35: Craig Shoemaker

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Comedian Craig Shoemaker, "The Lovemaster", joins This Life to talk borderline personality disorders, relationships and being a father. Special guest Shelly Sprague from Celebrity Rehab offers her take on his experiences. Outro Music "Lately I've Been Waiting" by Fabrizio And The Fever, from the album Nunchuck Fever, available on iTunes. Visit. Fabrizioandthefever.com Sponsored by getheal.com

Jun 27 2016

1hr 8mins

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Rank #5: This Life 78: Theo Von

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Comedian/host of No Offense on Netflix opens up about his sobriety, his experiences growing up in the south and joins in on the never ending topic of millennials with Bob Forrest and Dr. Drew. 

Outro Music "Moon Dance" by Lance Is A Genius.

This episode is sponsored by Alliant University and Hydralyte.com.

Apr 24 2017

1hr 3mins

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Rank #6: This Life 43: Bob Newton and Caleb Bacon

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Bob Newton spent 11 years in the NFL as a Guard for the Chicago Bears and Seattle Seahawks before moving on to counseling and directing programs at Hazeldon Betty Ford Center. Caleb Bacon sits in for Bob Forrest, who checks in from the delivery room at the hospital where his baby mama Krissy gives birth.

Outro music "Truth, Chaos And Beauty (Peace In The Valley)" by Bob Forrest, from his album "Survival Songs" available on iTunes.

Aug 22 2016

1hr 11mins

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Rank #7: This Life 20: Mackenzie Phillips

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Mackenzie Phillips shares her inspirational stories of sobriety as well as her constant struggles over the years after Celebrity Rehab. She also brings a surprising announcement about her new career opportunities in serving the needs of addicted clients. Dr. Drew and Bob answer callers' emails. Outro Song "Transfixed (WTRDPS Respace)" by Shelita Burke, courtesy of the artist. www.shelitaburke.com

Mar 21 2016

54mins

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Rank #8: #YOULIVE 169 - Theo Von

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Mike Catherwood co-host dives deep with Theo Von of popular THIS PAST WEEKEND podcast. Theo relates harrowing stories about growing up in the South and his personal Holiday recovery techniques that keep him sober. @thislifepodcast #YOULIVE

Also, Mike Catherwood is hosting a Health and Fitness Podcast Called SWOLE PATROL! We are enjoying this format. Subscribe and tell friend. We love feedback and want to hear from you. @swolepatrol on Twitter. 

Sponsored by Select CBD and True Recovery.

Jan 28 2019

1hr 4mins

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Rank #9: #YOULIVE 130 - Teen Mom Talk, Mary Lynn Rajskub, & Bob Saget

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Drew and co-host Mike Carano discuss the latest Teen Mom Reunion with Grace from the Grace Report.¬†Then, actress/comedian Mary Lynn Rajskub chats with the guys about show biz and offers Mike some guidance regarding the recent tragic and unexpected death of his sister and his purging.¬†Afterwards, Bob Saget joins to talk about his upcoming dark comedy, ‚ÄúBenjamin,‚ÄĚ which explores the topic of intervention and family dynamics.¬†Finally, we‚Äôll hear from James Preston Rogers, who stars in the movie with Drew, Bob Forrest, Bob Saget and Mary Lynn. #youlive¬†

Check out the banners on drdrew.com for discounts on Hydralyte and Bergamet today! 

Apr 23 2018

1hr 29mins

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Rank #10: This Life 56: Candy Finnigan

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Candy Finnigan is a nationally recognized addiction specialist and interventionist. She was one of the interventionists on A&E's "Intervention," and has been involved in all areas of recovery for over 25 years. Candy is also a recovering alcoholic.

Outro Music "Sedated" by Lukas Rossi from his album "Hollywood", available on iTunes.

Nov 21 2016

54mins

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Rank #11: This Life 41: Debra Tate

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Victim’s Advocate Debra Tate, shares her journey working with the Criminal Justice System and describes living in the shadow of one of the most notorious crimes in history.

Outro Music: Fabrizio And The Fever ‚ÄúShe Was (Marilyn‚Äôs Song)‚ÄĚ from the album Nunchuck Fury, available on iTunes.

Aug 08 2016

56mins

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Rank #12: This Life 42: Owen Elliot-Kugell

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The Rob Saul Show’s Owen Elliot-Kugell talks about coming of age in Los Angeles, as the daughter of late rock star, Mama Cass Elliot from the Mamas and the Papa’s band.

Outro Music: Fabrizio And The Fever ‚ÄúWith Me‚ÄĚ from the album Nunchuck Fury, available on iTunes.

Aug 15 2016

1hr 1min

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Rank #13: This Life 65 : Bert Kreischer

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Comedian and television host Bert Kreischer AKA "The Machine" is a little fearful of an intervention yet shows up to talk to Drew and Bob Forrest about his life and his new weight loss regimen. Wife Leeann joins in on the antics. 

Outro Music "Black And White" by Emmett Skyy, Courtesy of www.EmmettSkyy.com

Sponsored by Bergamet Mega Plus and The National Assessment Foundation. Go to Drdrew.com for all the latest podcasts and Dr. Drew's News. 

Jan 23 2017

1hr 10mins

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Rank #14: #YOULIVE 149 - Theo Von

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Theo Von makes a cameo appearance with Drew and Mike Catherwood who chat about the latest news and this life. #youlive 

This episode is sponsored by Hydralyte.

Sep 11 2018

1hr 2mins

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Rank #15: #YOULIVE 139 - Tom Segura

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Tom Segura of YOUR MOM’S HOUSE podcast, that he does with his wife Christina P, explains how it came about and how awesome his wife is with Dr. Drew. @Thislifepodcast pairs Tom up with co-host @MikeCatherwood so they can get down and dirty. These two belong together on some alternate universe filled with obscene videos and photographs. Nicole Angemi AKA @Mrs_Angemi donates some pathological slides. Tom's buddy Bert Kreischer calls in to talk about his drinking and general health these days. May not be suitable for young normal children. 

This episode is sponsored by TruNiagen.

Jun 25 2018

1hr 5mins

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Rank #16: This Life 32: Mike Carano PTSD

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This Life delves into PTSD with callers and our returning Podz Squad guest, comedian Mike Carano. 

Outro Music "That's the Advantage of Being Married to a Cowboy" Courtesy of Mike Carano.

Jun 06 2016

54mins

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Rank #17: This Life 46: Kitty Bruce

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Daughter of legendary comedian Lenny Bruce, Kitty Bruce on her relationship with her father and the recent reissue of his autobiography How To Talk Dirty And Influence People. Then Kitty delves into The Lenny Bruce Foundation’s efforts in the field of Recovery.

Outro is an excerpt of The Paul Mercurio Comedy Mixtape, Episode 308: Lenny Bruce, courtesy of  the Sideshow Network. Listen to the full episode here:

The Paul Mecurio Comedy Mixtape 308: Lenny Bruce

This Life is sponsored by Bergametna.com and AloRecovery.com

Sep 11 2016

1hr 6mins

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Rank #18: This Life 53: This Afterlife

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Dr Drew and Bob Forrest are joined by neuropsychologist Jena Kravitz, PsyD and an evidential psychic medium Melissa Cubillas. Are people addicted to psychics? Dr. Jena explains. Mellisa or MC, reads a couple who are curious about the process.

Outro Music: ‚Äú(NREM)‚ÄĚ by Lukas Rossi, from the album ‚ÄúProphecy‚ÄĚ available on iTunes.¬†¬†Sponsored by bergametna.com and Drdrew.com

Oct 31 2016

1hr 3mins

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Rank #19: This Life 52: Khalil Rafati

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Sunlife Organics founder Khalil Rafati returns to This Life to talk about his book, "I Forgot To Die", chronicling his journey from heroin addict to successful juicing entrepeneur.

Outro Music ‚ÄúEverything About You‚ÄĚ by IAMWE, from the EP Love And Loss, available on iTunes.

This episode is sponsored by Bergametna.com and Drdrew.com

Oct 24 2016

56mins

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Rank #20: This Life 29: Dr Bruce Heischober

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Well familiar to fans of Loveline and the Adam Carolla Show, Dr Bruce Heischober stops by the show to compare treatment for opioid strategies.

Outro Music: "Flash" by Melany Watson.

May 16 2016

1hr 6mins

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#YOULIVE 195: Depression Treatments / Caller Show

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Ben Spielberg & hormone specialist Dr. Gary Donovitz. Breakthrough research has shown that ketamine and neuromodulation: non-pharmaceutical treatments can directly change the brain to treat various disorders and can rapidly alleviate severe depression.  Dr. Drew and guests answer your questions about depression, Ketamine, TMS, and how hormone replacement can also bring mental health back to normalcy. Callers ask questions about various topics. #YOULIVE

Sponsored by SimpleCBD and get 20 perscent off at Drdrew. com! 

Dec 11 2019

54mins

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#YOULIVE 194- Rehab Bob Forrest Live Call-in Show

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Our favorite Celebrity Rehab guy, Bob Forrest returns on this week’s episode of This Life!  If you didn’t catch the show on  http://Facebook.com/drdrew or http://Youtube.com/drdrew, you can listen now!  This week’s guests also include Dr. Bruce Heischober (talking Suboxone), Dave from the Dopey Podcast (leading his cult of Dopey Nation folk) and Patrick from Don’t Die Wisconsin (reporting on Fentanyl myths).  Drew and Bob also offer up some sage advice to live callers.

#YOULIVE

Sponsored by Social CDB. Click on the banner at Drdrew.com. 

Nov 15 2019

53mins

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#YOULIVE 193- Caller Show With Mike Carano and Kat Timpf

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Co-host Mike Carano joins Dr. Drew and Kat Timpf from The Gutfeld Show and Sincerely Kat on Fox Nation. Kat calls in to test the new live call-in studio out via VMIX to talk about her vaping addiction, and the pros and cons of vaping with vape advocate Jonathan Risteen. Callers line up to talk about many different subjects to include pain management and opiate use. Get the video feed on Dr. Drew's Youtube feed or at facebook.com/drdrew. #YOULIVE. 

Sponsored by GAINSWave. Go to drdrew.com for details.

Oct 17 2019

58mins

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#YOULIVE 192 - Lahna Turner

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Comedian Lahna Turner is back to talk about her new documentary "What's Eating Ralphie May?" She talks with Dr. Drew about how her relationship unraveled at the end of her marriage. She uncovers her codependency and how being married to an addict in the spotlight was never easy. Drew digs deep into the history and feels her pain. Check out the video on Dr. Drew YouTube Channel today! 

Proudly sponsored by Social CBD and Gainswave for men. 

Sep 30 2019

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YOULIVE -191: LA Supervisor Kathryn Barger

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Dr. Drew tackles the Homeless crisis with LA County Supervisor, Kathryn Barger taking live calls. They believe it‚Äôs necessary to appeal¬†Martin v. City of Boise, which forbids municipalities¬†from enforcing common sense ordinances that prohibit public camping unless those local governments can offer acceptable shelter to every unhoused person in the jurisdiction. The overwhelming amount of ‚Äúunhoused neighbors‚ÄĚ in Los Angeles is polluting our streets and oceans and creating a new lever of mental health/drug problems among this culture. Drew and Kathryn take questions from callers, including Venice activist, Rick Swinger.¬†¬†Correnda Perkins, Division Chief, Community-Based Services of Hillsides.org discusses the wrap around services Hillsides provides LA youth ages 18-26.and

Go to  http://KathrynBarger.lacounty.gov. 

LA Homeless Outreach Portal is available if you see someone, or know someone who needs services. LA-HOP.ORG will send out an Outreach Worker to give them a place to go for help.

This Life is courtesy of SocialCBD. Go to DrDrew.com/socialCBD. On our site and for a limited time you can save 20% at checkout with code DRDREW.  Also proudly sponsored by GAINSWave. Go to drdrew.com/wave today!

Sep 24 2019

1hr 1min

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#YOULIVE 190 - Dr Gary Donovitz

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Dr. Gary Donovitz of http://BioTEmedical.com joins Dr. Drew on This Life #YOULIVE for an informative chat about the benefits of hormone replacement therapy for both women and men.  They discuss how hormones can be used to treat menopausal symptoms in women, low testosterone levels and male hypogonadism.  The duo also addresses a recent study focused on Veterans with Opioid addiction and PTSD. What is BioTE? BioTE Medical provides bioidentical hormone pellet therapy to help balance hormones in both women and men.

This Life is courtesy of SocialCBD. Go to DrDrew.com/socialCBD. On our site and for a limited time you can save 20% at checkout with code DRDREW. 

Sep 16 2019

57mins

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#YOULIVE 189 - Ginger Gonzaga

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Back after a hiatus in a new studio, Dr. Drew interviews actress / writer Ginger Gonzaga of Just Kidding, I'm Dying Up Here and the new season of Grace and Frankie. Ginger discusses her #MeToo experiences, and how she copes with a bipolar disorder. Emails about social anxiety and the homeless are answered.

Sponsored by GAINSWave. Go to drdrew.com/wave today!

Aug 20 2019

58mins

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#YOULIVE 188 - Amber Smith

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Shelly Sprague co-hosts with Drew on this episode while Bob makes an album.  Back again, Amber Smith is known for being a Celebrity Rehab Alum, Former Sports Illustrated Swimsuit model, Actress and Covergirl (Vogue /Elle /Cosmo /Esquire/ Maxim) and presently, in school to become a Professional Homeopath. Shelly and Drew take emails. This episode is sponsored by Select CBD.

Jun 17 2019

44mins

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#YOULIVE 187 - Kat Timpf

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Dave from Dopey and Gutfeld's Kat Timpf, live from a The Hudson Yards reverb chamber in NYC... Dr. Drew takes the show on the road to New York and gets to interview one of the biggest, yet smallest Fox News Hosts. They discuss Kat's love of Teen Mom 2 and her concerns about Janelle. Check out Sincerely Kat, coming soon!  This episode is brought to you by Select CBD

Jun 03 2019

1hr 29mins

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#YOULIVE 186 - Chad Robichaux/ Brian Claypool/ John Anderson

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Chad Robichaux of The Mighty Oaks Foundation helps veterans, active duty service members and their families, who are dealing with crisis due to their military service.  Dr. Drew and Shelly learn about Chad’s personal experiences and then catch up with former This Life guests, attorney Brian Claypool and military veteran, John Anderson.  In episode #104, Brian and John shared stories about how they escaped with their lives after a mass shooter opened fire at the Route 91 Harvest Music Festival in Las Vegas in 2017.  They described living through an ordeal that took 58 lives and wounded 422 others.  Brian, still struggling with severe PTSD, gets advice from Chad about how to continue healing from this tragedy.  John, also a vet, shares how he and his wife, Myra, are coping after witnessing the deadliest mass shooting in the history of the United States. John was machine gunner who served in combat in Beruit, Lebanon in 1983, and was there for the Beruit Bombing.  #YOULIVE

This episode is sponsored by Select CBD

May 27 2019

1hr 7mins

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#YOULIVE 185 - Simonetta Lein

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Simonetta Lien joins Dr. Drew and Shelly Sprague to discuss her life as a model, fashion influencer, writer, social worker and founder of The Wishwall Foundation, which allows people from across the world to post their deepest wish or desire on the website‚Äôs ‚ÄúWishwall.‚ÄĚ ¬†She tells how it came about, and created an Amazon TV show that turns wishes into incredible dreams come true. Ranked Top 100 Fashion Influencer and Millennial Activist, this woman gets things done. Find her on Instagram and Twitter: @simonettalein¬†Top 100 Fashion Influencer-Author-Official of @yec and¬†thewishwall.org. #YOULIVE

 Sponsored by Select CBD.

May 19 2019

1hr 7mins

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#YOULIVE 184 - Teen Mom OG Amber Portwood

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Happy Mothers make happy kids. Celebrity Rehab's Addiction Specialist Shelly Sprague returns as co-host toad up with Teen Mom OG Mother of two Amber Portwood, on this Mother's Day 2019!  The topic today is spousal abuse and how Amber overcame addiction and anger management issues after turning herself in and using the prison system as a way out.  She is thriving today as a motivational speaker, and continues to still live in the limelight of the Teen Mom Franchise as a sober adult.  Drew's wife Susan talks about her difficult history of spousal abuse. Go to drdrew.com for more on this topic.

This episode is sponsored by Select CBD.

May 13 2019

48mins

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#YOULIVE 183 - Michael Des Barres

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Marquis - Actor - Musician - SiriusXM host Michael Des Barres joins This Life to talk Glam Rock and touring in the 70's, growing up in English Boarding schools, performing for over a billion people at Live Aid,  and how he's been able to maintain sobriety for over 30 years. #YOULIVE

This episode is sponsored by Select CBD.

May 07 2019

56mins

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#YOULIVE 182 - Beautiful Boy Author David Sheff

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Award winning author of Beautiful Boy, David Sheff, talks with Dr. Drew about his book (now in movie form) and the exciting experience being in the celebrity spotlight.  He updates us about his son, Nic (36 and sober for nine years), with whom he creates educational books for parents and their kids.  Drew and David talk about the experience of fathering an addict and the personal challenges he’s faced along the way. #YOULIVE

This episode is sponsored by Select CBD.

Apr 29 2019

50mins

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#YOULIVE 181 - Lt. Col Allen B West

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Author / podcast host of Old School Patriot, Lt. Col (Ret.) Allen B West is a conservative, combat veteran, and former Member of the US Congress. Bob, Drew and the Colonel chat about the problems with media, raising kids today and the difference between a 26 year old of 1836 and present day Millennials coping skills. Bob and Drew get in a fight over history, and and move on to talk about the current veteran issue of PTSD, Opiates and suicide and how the to address this problem.     

This episode is sponsored by Select CBD. Go to drdrew.com and get some! Produced by Susan Pinsky

Apr 22 2019

1hr 4mins

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#YOULIVE 180 - Legendary Groupie Pamela Des Barres

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Pamela Des Barres, famous groupie and best-selling author of ‚ÄúI‚Äôm With The Band,‚ÄĚ has toured and been intimate with the best of them.¬†¬†Des Barres, a familiar face on the Sunset Strip in the 1960s, befriended and dated multiple rock stars, including Mick Jagger, Keith Moon, Jimmy Page, Jim Morrison and Waylon Jennings, to name a few.¬† Pamela was also a live-in¬†governess for¬†Frank Zappa's children!¬†In 1977, Pamela married Michael Des Barres of the bands Detective, Silverhead. Pamela was known for her beauty, her captivating personality, and openness to loving any and all rock stars and their music.¬†Bob and Drew relive her life story and listen as she talks candidly about Jim Morrison and her feelings about Elvis Presley. Go to PamelaDesBarres.com for her latest projects.¬†#YOULIVE¬†

This episode is sponsored by Select CBD.

Apr 15 2019

59mins

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#YOULIVE 179 -Homefront Girl Gaby Juergens

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Gaby Juergens, a phenomenal woman of amazing dedication to military families. As a recent stage 3 cancer survivor, she is an advocate for military families working to change a law that leaves former military spouses like herself vulnerable to loss of benefits after a breakup after 27 years of marriage. Inspired by her life as a military daughter and wife, Gaby founded Homefront Girl, a line of products that pays tribute to "the other half of the Brave," (military spouses and children). She shares her life story and intimate details of her survival. #YOULIVE

Sponsored by Select CBD, click on the banner at drdrew.com. 

Apr 08 2019

47mins

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#YOULIVE 178 -Love Cannabis? Simone Bienne & Dr Jonathan Stea

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Dr. Drew and co-host Simone Bienne (a psychosocial and relationship therapist) chat with Dr. Jonathan N. Stea, a clinical psychologist who recently published two articles about cannabis use and mental health in Scientific American.  He’s here to answer all of your questions about CBD and THC, including: Does cannabis addiction really exist?  Does cannabis calm anxiety or make it worse?  Is there a placebo effect with cannabis and healing? What is the one thing that determines if using cannabis becomes harmful to you? #YOULIVE @jonathanstea

This episode is sponsored by Select CBD.

Apr 01 2019

49mins

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#YOULIVE 177 - WWE Amputee Zach Gowen

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After losing his left leg to cancer at age eight, Zach Gowan went on to become the first one-legged professional wrestler in history.  At nineteen, he signed a three-year contract with the World Wrestling Entertainment and was featured prominently on their television program, Smackdown!  Formerly addicted to drugs and alcohol, he recently celebrated nine years of sobriety, and describes his immediate love of alcohol as a kid and how it evolved.  Then, as a treat, therapist Simone Bienne stops by to help answer some email questions with Dr. Drew and Bob Forrest. #YOULIVE  This episode is sponsored by Select CBD.

Mar 25 2019

52mins

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#YOULIVE 176 - Mike Carano

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Photographer, filmmaker Mike Carano returns to talk about life after losing his sister Nicki in a freak accident three years ago.  Devastated by the loss of the person who held his somewhat dysfunctional family together, Mike relies on humor to deal with his own mental issues and to get through life one day at a time. This episode is sponsored by Select CBD.

Mar 19 2019

1hr 14mins

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iTunes Ratings

477 Ratings
Average Ratings
398
29
23
7
20

Favorite Drew show

By TPA845 - Aug 20 2019
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Im glad it’s back! Keep making more.

Dave from Dopey

By alansgroupieūüėČ - Jun 03 2019
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Dave + Dr. Drew = ūüíú Such a good combo