OwlTail

Cover image of The BackPage

The BackPage

Inviting inspiring individuals from across the business of sport and esports to talk about their career journeys and the trends shaping the future of the sports industry.

Weekly hand curated podcast episodes for learning

Popular episodes

All episodes

Read more

Inviting inspiring individuals from across the business of sport and esports to talk about their career journeys and the trends shaping the future of the sports industry.

Football industry consultant, agent, analyst & expert Jonathan Fadugba joins the BackPage

Podcast cover
Read more
Jonny Madill and Daniel Geey are joined by Jonathan Fadugba, football consultant, writer, scout, analyst and all round football industry expert.

Amongst other things, Jonathan is a regular podcast guest on the Guardian Football Weekly podcast and is also known for his work with FourFourTwo and of course his own, independent world football website Just Football, which he created back in 2007.

Jonathan is also founder of Future Global Sports, the international sports management consultancy focused on the development of young talent within the football industry with one of the strongest track records for non-league to professional transfers in recent seasons. Jonathan talks about his work with players and clubs from the very top of the football pyramid down to the lower levels with less of a spotlight than the heights of the Premier League. We also and discuss the impact Brexit will have on the football industry as well as the salary cap debate and the recent transfer window. Jonathan also shares more about his background in football and business.

Mar 02 2021

46mins

Play

Stuart Dinsey on colliding worlds of video games, football and media

Podcast cover
Read more

Daniel Geey and Alex Chapman of Sheridans chat with Stuart Dinsey, chair of games publisher Curve Digital and trade body UKIE, plus a director of Stevenage FC. Stuart started as a business journalist, before building and successfully selling Intent Media – a B2B empire that included MCV: The Market for Computer & Video Games and Music Week. Since 2012 he has overseen the rise of Curve and been a part of Stevenage FC’s emergence as one of the most progressive clubs for global marketing and brand appeal.

Feb 10 2021

31mins

Play

Dave Slemen and Anna Edwards, Partners at EPP, share their insight on how clubs hire and tips on how to succeed as a candidate

Podcast cover
Read more

In this episode, Daniel Geey is joined by Anna Edwards and Dave Slemen, Partners at EPP, the performance and recruitment consultancy that supports, builds and grows high-performance teams. Anna, Dave and Daniel discuss the ways professional clubs hire new recruits and offer top tips on how to succeed both in the interview process and beyond, recognising the importance of cultural fit if you are to thrive in a new role.

Feb 03 2021

46mins

Play

Owen Jones, immigration expert & Sheridans Sport lawyer talks about what Brexit means for football

Podcast cover
Read more
In this latest episode, Daniel Geey is joined by immigration expert and fellow partner at Sheridans, Owen Jones. Dan and Owen talk about the old work permit regime, the new regulatory system and some of the nuances that will impact on players transferring into the UK.

Jan 22 2021

27mins

Play

Tim Wigmore talks about his recently released book, 'The Best. How Elite Athletes are Made'

Podcast cover
Read more
To kick off series 2, Daniel Geey and Jonny Madill are joined by Tim Wigmore, award-winning journalist and co-author of the recently released book that so many connected to sport are talking about at the moment: “'The Best. How Elite Athletes are Made”. The book is an inside track on superhuman performance and how the world’s greatest athletes are made. It combines cutting edge science with exclusive insights from some of the world’s greatest athletes and coaches - to help us understand what makes them the best at what they do. Tim joins Dan and Jonny to talk about some of the themes running through the book, such as the ‘luck of birth’ and how that impacts who becomes successful, and why younger siblings have a significantly greater chance of becoming elite athletes than older brothers and sisters. He also explains why elite athletes are more likely to come from a certain place or school, and delves into the psychology of champions as well as what science says about the psychology of ‘choking’ - a concept so familiar and so widely described yet so poorly understood. Tim provides a fascinating insight into high performance sport and the mindset of elite athletes.
“The Best. How Elite Athletes are Made”is available to purchase online: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Best-How-Champions-Are-Made/dp/1529304350

Jan 15 2021

49mins

Play

Abdul Buhari talks about his elite athlete journey, his 2012 Olympic experiences and his transition to a second career in financial services

Podcast cover
Read more

Daniel Geey is joined by Abdul to talk about his fantastic career as an elite athlete. We talk about his roots and growing up, adapting to university and training life at Loughborough, competing at international level and some of his early setbacks, the highs of qualifying and representing Team GB in his home London 2012 Olympics and pivoting from elite athlete into the financial services sector. 

Nov 16 2020

49mins

Play

Mark Pollock: the inspirational adventure athlete, motivational speaker & Run In The Dark Co-Founder

Podcast cover
Read more
Mark Pollock is no ordinary inspirational figure. In 1998 at the age of 22, he went suddenly blind. Mark dealt with this life changing moment by becoming an adventure athlete, competing in ultra-endurance races across deserts, mountains, and the polar ice caps including becoming the first blind person to race to the South Pole. He also won medals for rowing at the Commonwealth Games and became a now world famous motivational speaker.

In 2010, however, Mark was dealt another devastating blow when he fell from a second story window and was nearly killed. Mark broke his back and the damage to his spinal cord left him paralysed. Since then, Mark has been on a new expedition, to find a cure for paralysis in our lifetime.

To help achieve this goal and deal with the ongoing impact of his catastrophic spinal cord injury, Mark set up the incredible global running series called Run in the Dark 10 years ago. Run In The Dark is a mass running event that takes place simultaneously in cities all round the world: from Dublin to London to Belfast to Sydney.

This year, because of Covid-19, Run In The Dark will be going virtual. As darkness sweeps around the globe on 18 November, 25,000 people worldwide will get up from their living rooms, slip on their red flashing armbands and put on their running shoes to complete a 5k or 10k. Running separately while connecting socially across 7 continents, this global movement will light up the night as people hit the road to Run in the Dark for the Mark Pollock Trust. All to enable Mark to pursue his personal mission to find a cure paralysis.

Mark joins Andrew Nixon and Jonny Madill and talks about the incredible RITD journey and how it’s become a truly global brand, and the challenges this year of trying to run an international event virtually.

Mark also talks about his inspirational journey and experiences in overcoming the sort of adversity that most of us can only begin to imagine. He talks about his mind-boggling achievements as an adventurist and explorer, most notably becoming the first blind person to race to the South Pole, which became the subject of a famous book by Ben Fogle and James Cracknell who competed in the event that same year. The other 8 competing teams had sight; Mark did it without that essential sense, in unimaginable conditions for 43 days and nights across the world’s most brutal terrain.

Mark also talks about the subject of Stoicism and the teachings of Stoic philosophy, a mindset that has served him well and one he is well qualified to talk about. As a speaker, Mark is best known for his 2018 TED Talk. It’s called “A love letter to realism in a time of grief” and is delivered jointly with his fiancée, Simone George. It’s got over 1.7 million views and counting, and has inspired people in hundreds of organisations round the world. Mark is also the subject of the acclaimed documentaries ‘Blind Man Walking’ and ‘Unbreakable’.

To have Mark share his story on The BackPage has been a true honour and inspiration. It makes us all reflect on what is truly possible – in sport, and in business – when we put our minds to it.

Check out the Run In The Dark social channels or website for more info on the event on 18 November and for details of how you or your company can sign up: www.runinthedark.org. Mark’s inspirational 2018 Ted Talk (“A love letter to realism in a time of grief”) can also be watched here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvfydcUeXls

Oct 29 2020

1hr 22mins

Play

Part 2: Christine Ohuruogu talks about her career, becoming World & Olympic champion & more

Podcast cover
Read more
In part 2 of this special two-part episode, Christine Ohuruogu talks to Andrew Nixon and Jonny Madill about the challenges facing both track and field and traditional sports more generally, especially making sport more attractive to a younger audience and increasing participation levels. She discusses the mental challenges facing athletes in the lead up to the rescheduled Tokyo Games, and also tells of how a conversation with a barrister some years ago led her to embark on a new career in the law, which culminated in her graduating from Queen Mary University with a law degree in July 2019. As well as being a true champion, Christine is open, honest and inspirational in how she talks about the sport she loves and the lessons she learned.

Oct 19 2020

41mins

Play

Part 1: Christine Ohuruogu talks about her career, becoming World & Olympic champion & more

Podcast cover
Read more
In part 1 of this special two-part episode, Andrew Nixon and Jonny Madill are joined by former world and Olympic 400m champion and one of Britain’s greatest and most decorated athletes, Christine Ohuruogu MBE. Christine looks back at how she first got into athletics and her memories of growing up in Newham, the backdrop of the London 2012 Olympics. She talks about the highs and lows of her career journey on the track including what it was like to become the first ever British woman to win 400m Olympic gold in Beijing 2008, as well as her silver medal at London 2012 and her double world championship gold. She also talks openly and honestly about the setbacks during her career, including the intrusive media attention after she was suspended for missing three out-of-competition tests in 2006, a ban that was later overturned. As well as being a true champion, Christine is open, honest and inspirational in how she looks back at her career and the lessons she learned.

Oct 16 2020

57mins

Play

Zoe Smith, Freddie Burns & Nick Robinson discuss the DfY Foundation & life as elite athletes

Podcast cover
Read more
This episode is in partnership with the DfY Foundation set up by Nick Robinson, founder of leading sports talent agency ISC. DfY uses elite athlete ambassadors to help inspire kids who don’t have access to good role models, mentors or the same privileges in life as others. In this episode Daniel Geey is joined by two of Nick's professional athlete clients, Zoe Smith and Freddie Burns, to discuss their role in the DfY Foundation, their career journeys and some of their setbacks and challenges along the way. DfY is right in the middle of a fundraising campaign, and you can donate here: https://natwestbackherbusiness.co.uk/dfy and find out more about DfY here: www.dfy.org.uk. Read more about the brilliant ISC here: www.weareisc.com.

Sep 09 2020

52mins

Play

Steve Martin Global CEO of M&C Saatchi Sport & Entertainment talks all things sports & entertainment

Podcast cover
Read more
In this episode Andrew Nixon and Jonny Madill are joined by guest Steve Martin, the global CEO of world-renowned sports marketing agency M&C Saatchi Sport & Entertainment. As one of the leading figures in the industry for the past 20 years, Steve talks about his recent relocation from London to Australia to launch M&C Saatchi Sport & Entertainment’s new Sydney office and explore other growth opportunities. He also talks about the opportunities for brands and rights holders now that the ‘reset’ button has been pressed, and lessons from lockdown when it comes to using digital to activate creative partnerships. Steve also gives his insight on Tokyo 2021, the empowering online influence of athletes like Marcus Rashford, opportunities for brands within esports, and a host of other takeaways from recent months for the industry. He finishes with a chat with Andrew and Jonny about his emotional ties to Northern Irish and Irish sport, his plans for the future and his favourite sporting autobiographies.

Aug 12 2020

1hr 10mins

Play

Adrian Bevington on Project Restart, leadership in sport & opportunities for the football industry

Podcast cover
Read more
In this episode Jonny Madill and Daniel Geey are joined by Adrian Bevington, one of the football industry’s most experienced communications and senior leadership executives to discuss everything from Project Restart and how the football industry can navigate the current crisis, to opportunities for sports clubs and brands to think creatively and stand out from the crowd, and the importance of leadership and effective comms in challenging times like these. Adrian, who spent 17 years at the FA as first Communications Director and then Club England Managing Director, and has worked at 5 World Cups and 3 European Championships, also talks about England’s “golden generation” and shares his memories with Jonny of England’s infamous World Cup qualifier against Northern Ireland in 2005!

Jun 05 2020

48mins

Play

Joanna Coates, the CEO of UK Athletics, on leadership, women’s sport and “The Last Dance”

Podcast cover
Read more
In this episode Andrew Nixon talks to Joanna Coates, CEO of UK Athletics on a range a topics including a new chapter for athletics, “that match” against Australia, leadership in sport, women’s sport and “the Last Dance”. It is a fascinating conversation.

May 29 2020

50mins

Play

Simon Dent, Founder of Dark Horses, on leadership, mental health, the 5am club and much more

Podcast cover
Read more
In this episode Andrew Nixon and Chris Paget talk to Simon Dent, Founder and CEO of Dark Horses, on a range a topics including setting up a different type of sports creative agency, building an incredible team, leadership, mental health in sport and the 5am club . It is a fascinating conversation.

May 20 2020

54mins

Play

Working with Sports Clients in Uncertain Times - with Adam Osper and Pete Hackleton

Podcast cover
Read more
In this episode Daniel Geey was joined by Adam Osper and Pete Hackleton to talk about the conversations they are having with their clients from a practical financial and tax perspective. We discussed issues relating to: the Government putting pressure on players to give up 30% of their salaries, and what would be the wider implications of this; key tax and financial investment considerations for Premier League players in the current environment; wider issues to consider with regard to a salary deferral at Premier League clubs; and issues that clients are facing in the current climate and the typical conversations/concerns they are having.

Apr 30 2020

30mins

Play

Talking Football, Rugby and Negotiation Tactics with ISC Founder Nick Robinson

Podcast cover
Read more
Daniel Geey talks to ISC Founder Nick Robinson about his time as a sports agent including insight on:

- working across football and rugby; 
- his great tips on how to leverage contract and transfer negotiations; 
- his satisfaction in getting a deal across the line; and
- why he set up his fantastic charity DFY.

You can follow Nick, ISC and DFY using the below handles.

Twitter: @weareisc  @dfysports
Instagram: @weareisc  @dfysports @nickrobinsonisc

Apr 20 2020

34mins

Play

Why sports, athletes and brands are turning to esports and gaming - with Drew Townley

Podcast cover
Read more
Jonny Madill chats to Drew Townley, CEO and co-founder of global esports and gaming agency Kairos Esports, about the opportunities for traditional sports, athletes and brands to explore esports and gaming as a means of engaging a new audience. Drew talks about the recent rise in esports viewership and engagement in the midst of the Covid-19 pandemic and how athletes and brands are increasingly turning to esports and gaming activations as a means of filling the void left by the absence of live sport.

Apr 09 2020

38mins

Play