In Episode 65 of CEREBRO, Connor and returning guest Zoe Tunnell (Blade Maidens) deploy their foot claws with Laura Kinney, the All-New Wolverine! Introduced as X-23, a female clone of Wolverine (it's complicated), Laura debuted in the popular cartoon X-Men: Evolution before becoming a vital part of the comics universe. After Logan's death (he got better!), she adopted his codename and now serves on the flagship X-Men team.The CEREBRO character file on X-23/Wolverine begins at 57:08.(Content Advisory: Laura's story includes child abuse including child sex abuse, underage sex trafficking, self-harm, suicidal ideation and attempted suicide, brainwashing, torture, involuntary body modification, and a lot of other pretty grim stuff.)Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands
Episode Notes It’s Mutant Musings fifth anniversary! Hooray! To celebrate, Patti and Jonathan discuss the episode, “X-23,” and six issues of All-New Wolverine because they feature one of the best fictional characters – Laura Kinney! Plus, learn how you can win Laura Kinney posters by Mike Segawa and Ty Romsa! What can’t you hear in space? What should you never use S.H.I.E.L.D.’s tissues for? Find out on this special episode of Mutant Musings Evolution! Show Notes Mike Segawa's shop Ty Romsa's shop "X23" All-New Wolverine #1 All-New Wolverine #2 All-New Wolverine #3 All-New Wolverine #4 All-New Wolverine #5 All-New Wolverine #6
Laura Kinney (Wolverine/X-23), Joe Rogan, Brienne of Tarth
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Love: Laura Kinney Andy uses this episode to wax affectionately about a comic book character perhaps marginally familiar to most fans, but completely off the radar to the layperson, Laura Kinney AKA X-23 AKA Wolverine. He discusses her origins as a barely-more-than-one-off character in a lesser-known X-Men animated show to her character history in the comics, all the way to her current-ish status as Wolverine in Marvel Comics. Alex joins in to talk about cool commercials, cooler representation, and everyone agrees that it’s awesome when you can read a character’s entire history in a matter of months rather than decades. Hate: Joe Rogan Following his glowing review of Lewis Black last episode, Alex takes the Hate this time to talk about the dangerous idiocy of Joe Rogan. He discusses the issues with Rogan’s supposedly unique (read: unexamined) politics and the problems with giving such a huge platform and amount of grace to someone with so little care for responsibility, power dynamics, or the damage he can do (plus, platforming fascists). Andy, meanwhile, awakens depths of distaste, calling out everything he’s hated for years about the man, and everyone agrees that WTF with Marc Maron is a way better show. Relationship: Brienne of Tarth This episode’s Relationships.txt question comes from someone unable to decide what to do when he finds that his wife shared their intimate videos with her sister. Andy talks about consent and creepiness, while Alex spends some time reminding everyone that gender identity plays no role whatsoever in whether or not it’s f*cked up to send nudes without all parties aware and into it.
Get yer claws out, it's time to examine LAURA KINNEY! We look at this socially awkward Wolverine, and Doc invents a new use for the Danger Room! Listen now! SHOW NOTES: Intro Apologies for no new episode last week - tried to get creators, and then needed a break New folks in Discord & Facebook fan groups - plug for those communities Background (04:39) X-23 created by Craig Kyle for the X-Men: Evolution TV series, first comic book appearance in NYX #3 (Dec. 2003) by Joe Quesada & Joshua Middleton, first miniseries was X-23 by Craig Kyle & Christopher Yost Dr. Sarah Kinney, a geneticist, is hired to replicate the Weapon X program that created Wolverine, but the sample has a damaged Y chromosome, so Dr. Kinney manipulates the gene to create a XX version - after 22 failed attempts, the 23rd is a viable embryo, which she is forced to carry to term X-23 is raised as a killer, and given no human affection, aside from her sensei & Dr. Kinney At the age of 7, she is subjected to radiation to trigger her mutant gene, her claws are forcibly extracted and coated with adamantium - all without anesthesia, since the doctor doing this, Dr. Rice, is the son of the doctor who created Wolverine and who died after Logan’s surgery X-23 subjected to “trigger scent” which drives her into unstoppable killing rage, and she kills her sensei Dr. Kinney kidnaps X-23 and tells her to kill Dr. Rice, which she does, but before he dies he puts the trigger scent in Dr. Kinney’s hair - as she dies, she gives X-23 the name Laura Laura escapes to New York and begins working as a prostitute, where she encounters several runaway mutants - they work together to escape people hunting them Meets Logan, who tells her he knows about her because Dr. Kinney wrote him letters Joins the Xavier Institute to work with other mutants, learn how to be a human, and be closer to Logan Cyclops asks her to join a lethal X-Force team, but doesn’t ask Logan - this puts them at odds, because Logan wants her to be a kid and make her own choices Starts working with the time-displaced original X-men, and starts dating Teen Warren (Angel) After Logan’s death, takes up the mantle of Wolverine for a time Once Logan returns, she becomes X-23 again - meets other female clones that Dr. Kinney had created - one, Gabby, becomes very close with her, and they consider each other sisters Issues (10:38) No childhood - arrested development and trauma No social skills, although getting better (18:02) Constant struggle between nature as a bred killing machine and wanting to do the right thing (29:25) Break (39:48) Plugs for AnxZenity & Perfect Package Podcast, plus Saladin Ahmed Treatment (41:38) In-universe - Use the Danger Room to simulate Toastmasters & public speaking Out of universe - Similar to victims of sex trafficking (46:44) Skit (53:41) - Laura voiced by Hannah from Popcorn Psychology Ending (60:04) Next episodes: Superboy Prime, Azrael, Guardian References: Angela Duckworth - “Grit: The Power of Passion and Perseverance” - Doc (16:28) Apple Podcasts: here Google Play: here Stitcher: here TuneIn: here iHeartRadio: here Spotify: here Twitter Facebook Patreon TeePublic Discord
Krakin’ Krakoa #23: Fallen Angels #2 Review – The Regression of Laura Kinney By The Coward Fallen Angels
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November 27 2019 – the day before Thanksgiving – was the first new comic book day in approximately 4 months with at least three new X-Men comics released on the same day. Appropriately, my varying reactions to the releases are a healthy reminder that more is not always better, and that one of House of X and Dawn of X’s greatest strengths has been a healthy sense of curation (Marvel as a whole is otherwise comically overproducing books these days). Big picture, New Mutants is a book I expected to enjoy, and lo and behold, nothing has changed, whereas X-Force had a make-or-break second issue actually sell me on many of the comic’s bolder first issue choices. And then there’s Fallen Angels #2, which I’m increasingly convinced is the only absolute dud of the Dawn of X. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDpzLHOI0cg For all Comic Book Herald X-Men videos! For the full Dawn of X reading order: Two issues into Fallen Angels and I have no doubt that Fallen Angels is a let down, and the only real dud of the Dawn of X. This book will of course have fans – many of them have chimed in on the Comic Book Herald Youtube channel, and I’ll encourage them to continue to do so! I’m genuinely interested in other perspectives and why people enjoy work that isn’t working for me – so it’s important to me to go beyond simply “comic=bad” and explore specific elements that I find objectionable. Starting big picture, I respect the hell out of Hill and Kudranski’s pitch for a book about Kwannon reclaiming the Psylocke “shell” as she refers to it as truly her own. There’s conceptually a bold meditation on identity and the X-Men’s history of racial body swapping (it’s more than just Betsy & Kwannon, just ask the New Mutants “Demon Bear” saga), somewhere in the idea of Fallen Angels. As far as I can tell though, all of this is secondary to a substantially less interesting exploration of the role of violence in a utopia. This is particularly less interesting alongside a lineup including X-Force, where the concept of peaceful Utopia is so feverishly upended. The premise doesn’t match the reality *already* and we’re only two issues into Dawn of X! Just as messily, Fallen Angels is also sprinting headfirst into the surest way to mediocrity: It’s a ninja Hand book without a compelling leader of the Hand. It’s not like mutant-kind don’t have a history with Madripoor and the Hand – obviously this is especially true if we’re talking about Betsy Braddock and Kwannon – but to me this feels like another instance where the focal point doesn’t really tie with the rest of Dawn of X and the development of Krakoa. In every other title we can at least see ways the book contributes to the new world. Fallen Angels is still extremely unclear. Perhaps this is all because Fallen Angels didn’t need to be a team book. The comic Hill and Kudranski appear interested in writing is just called Psylocke. And that’s a fine, if bold choice for an X-book to launch – I mean it’s not like that would have been any less marketable than a comic book title connected to an off the wall late 80’s miniseries? Not only do I think Fallen Angels didn’t need to be a team book, it didn’t need to be a book with *this* team. This is probably the aspect of Fallen Angels that irks the comic fan in me the most – Teen Cable and X-23 do *not* make sense for this book, and the work is not doing anything to convince me otherwise. Bryan Edward Hill is at odds with other writers on many of the characters he’s writing. From Hickman’s off-the-rails comedic Mr. Sinister to Hickman’s goofball meathead Teen Cable, to Tom Taylor’s years of character work on X-23 (more on this in a moment), Hill’s writing them all muted and reduced to ominous talk of war and violence. Forget which version is even preferred – it’s blatantly inconsistent. This is far from the first time two writers have had different takes on their caretaking of Marvel’s property, but it’s happening in concert during a Dawn of X that is otherwise cohesive and wholly connected. It’s an approach incongruous with Dawn of X, and so is the comic book. In order to more specifically discuss the regressive nature of Fallen Angels, I think it helps in particular to define Laura Kinney’s regression. X-23 is a clone of Wolverine, created in a lab, born and bred in violence. When she speaks aloud the following it’s not just a return to her early 2000’s identity, it’s a nonsensical attempt to ignore the fact that literally no one understands her better than Logan, aka Wolverine: “There is an anger in me. A rage. I gave up any hope that someone could possibly understand it.” She has clones like Gabby and Wolverine, but only Psylocke can understand her rage now? Since when?! Another piece of Fallen Angels that bugs me is the lack of a plan for all mutants on Krakoa. Like, the planners *know* Kwannon’s deal, and X-23’s. Look at X-23’s last series, she has clear missions and assignments using her skills. But on Krakoa she’s expected to just sit by the same campfire? It makes the planners look dumb and short-sighted! Now there’s no question that historically X-23 has a lot of rage and trauma to overcome. Again, she is a young girl born and bred in violence, for no other purpose than killing at the behest of her cruel masters. What is so frustrating about this particular take though is that it immediately follows years of work to give Laura something else. I’m referencing a particularly goofy example, but in All-New Wolverine written by Tom Taylor, Laura proves she’s more than X-23, more than the weapon, and develops a life with her sister Gabby, and yes Jonathan the Wolverine. She is angry, still, and it’s not like you just get over being made to murder, but Laura at least develops into a person with real empathy and connection to others. There’s definitely blame to throw Marvel’s way as well, for forcing the regression to begin with. Following All-New Wolverine and X-Men Red (both Tom Taylor written productions), Laura moving back to an X-23 series is inherently regressive, taking the clone name. So, no, I don’t put this all at Hill’s feet because Marvel as a whole clearly saw the return of OG Wolverine as a mandate to restore Laura to her late 2000’s/early 2010’s days on X-Force. As a real fan of what Laura Kinney was becoming, though, it feels a lot like one of the worst parts of superhero comics, a blatant and unconvincing character regression in order to maintain a perceived status quo. It’s every time Spider-Man’s relationships fall apart, or every time Daredevil’s identity goes back under wraps, or every time Thor, Captain America, and Iron Man return to lead the Avengers. Progress is often on a clock lest boundaries get pushed too far. It’s really not that different than ignoring the decades of character work that have made Wolverine the character fans know and love today. In 2019, Logan’s been an X-Man, a husband, a father, a teacher, an Avenger, and a man in grieving more times than we can count. If you strip that away and return to his late 70’s ferocity and rage, it’s just not the same character. The work that’s been done is an asset, not an albatross, and should be treated as such. ——————————————————————————— Music for Best Comics Ever by Anthony Weis. Check out more music at anthonyweis.com. Subscribe on iTunes Subscribe on Android To learn how you can support Best Comics Ever and receive more exclusive content from Comic Book Herald, check out the Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/comicbookherald For the Comic Book Herald reading club through every year of Marvel Comics, check out mymarvelousyear.com The post Krakin’ Krakoa #23: Fallen Angels #2 Review – The Regression of Laura Kinney By The Coward Fallen Angels appeared first on Comic Book Herald.