Cover image of Matthew Paul Turner

Matthew Paul Turner

32 Podcast Episodes

Latest 28 Jan 2023 | Updated Daily

Episode artwork

#129 - Helping Kids Learn Empathy with Picture Books (with Matthew Paul Turner)

The Couch with Mary Carver

You don’t have to look far or listen long to know why we need to teach our kids empathy. Basic kindness seems to be harder and harder to find, and if you’re like me, you are deeply motivated to encourage your kids to be better. To be more inclusive, to be kinder, to be different than what we’re surrounded by. And that is why my friend, Matthew Paul Turner, is here today to talk with me about specific children’s books that help us do just that. Matthew is a children’s author himself; he’s written some of my family’s favorites like When God Made You, When I Pray for You, and What Is God Like. So what I’m saying here is that he’s an expert. And, as you’ll hear, he’s genuinely dedicated to teaching his kids about the wonder and beauty of all people and the importance of showing each of them kindness and love. Of course, because this is The Couch, where side notes and rabbit trails are always welcome, we also discuss game shows and Netflix shows about teen ghosts that may include a whole lot of cursing. It’s almost time to get started, but one more quick note: Thank you to everyone who has already purchased my new book, Prayers from the Parking Lot! I am so grateful and I’m also hopeful it’s an encouragement to you and the moms you know. And to those of you who not only bought the book but then shared it on social media? Well, you are obviously my favorite. Thank you, friends. MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE: All the books on this list! NOT-SO-GUILTY PLEASURES: Press Your Luck, hosted by Elizabeth Banks Boo, Bitch on Netflix DON’T FORGET: Join The Couch on Facebook! It’s so much fun! Find Matthew on Instagram at @matthewpaulturner, on Twitter at @heympt, or on his website. And you can find me on Instagram at @marycarver or at marycarver.com. Welcome to The Couch! This post may include affiliate links. This means that if you click and purchase, I might receive a small commission at no extra charge to you.


16 Aug 2022

Episode artwork

Matthew Paul Turner

The Recovering Evangelical Podcast

I had the absolute honor to chat with New York Times best selling author, Matthew Paul Turner about faith, sexuality, love, and God.  I've been following Matthew's writing for years and am indebted to him and those like him who paved the way for so many of us. Take an moment or two to listen into this conversation and if you're anything like me, grab a tissue.


19 May 2022

Similar People

Episode artwork

episode 68: Matthew Paul Turner

all that's holy: blue collar podcst

Episode 68 Matthew Paul TurnerWe’ve been hearing a LOT about deconstruction the last few years, even featuring episodes about the topic here and there on this podcast. But what comes AFTER deconstruction? The answer will of course be different for each person.  Matthew Paul Turner– a forerunner of the current deconstruction movement by over a decade– has found an answer that suits him well, and might work for many others: telling better stories. Specifically in the form of picture books.His work in this particular genre began with When God Made You, and since then he has published many more, including What is God Like?, When I Pray For You, and his most recent book, I Am God’s Dream.https://matthewpaulturner.com/https://matthewpaulturner.com/category/jesus-needs-new-pr/Our broad ranging discussion covers a LOT of ground, including: How the campaign of George W. Bush gave him a spiritual orgasm with the catchy phrase “compassionate conservatism,” but eventually left him empty, especially in the wake of Hurricane Katrina (which Matthew notes as the deconstruction starting point for him) “I no longer wanted my theology to be against people.”How he started first critiquing what was wrong with his Evangelical subculture in his classic blog, “Jesus Needs New PR.” The path led him to start writing children’s books, because he was “looking for words to read over their kids” that weren’t destructive of left his children thinking God was a monster. How  “children’s literature” is a misnomer, and his preference for the term “picture books”, which enable others to see  the spiritual life anew. The importance of representing all people in his books,  and having a girl of color , first  Illustrated by David Catrow, provide a powerful way forward by be the stand in for us all in his books.About his latest book I Am God’s Dream being written during hard times, and includes that reality in the pages– but is ultimately driven by hope and joy. Matthew shares withs us a little about how he finds joy.AND MUCH MORE

17 May 2022

Episode artwork

Matthew Paul Turner Writes Children's Books

Queerology: A Podcast on Belief and Being

Matthew Paul Turner is a New York Times bestselling author of multiple books, including his Children’s books — When God Made You and When I Pray For You. His newest children’s book, I Am God’s Dream released last week.Matthew’s writing career started nearly 20 years ago, and he has published a book every year. Called “one of Christianity’s fresh voices” by Publisher’s Weekly, Matthew’s other notable works include Our Great Big American God, Churched, Coffeehouse Gospel and The Christian Culture Survival Guide.But, when he came out nearly two years ago and announced an impending divorce with his wife, his entire career was threatened. Today we’re chatting about his experience coming out and what he has learned along the way. Links + ResourcesI Am God's DreamMatthew Paul Turner's WebsiteMatthew on TwitterMatthew on InstagramJoin Matthias and Dr. Robyn Henderson Espinoza on May 12 at The Seattle School of Theology and Psychology as they engage in conversation around Dr. Robyn's new book Body Becoming: A Path to Our Liberation. This event has both in-person and online attendance options. All the details can be found at https://theseattleschool.edu/event/body-becoming-a-path-to-our-liberation/Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy


3 May 2022

Most Popular

Episode artwork

I Am God's Dream with Matthew Paul Turner

Can I Say This At Church‽

Support the show: Patreon l Glow l Episode TranscriptYou are the you you are supposed to be. That's way to many "you's" but I just do not care :).Guest Bio:Matthew Paul Turner is the author of the #1 New York Times bestseller What Is God Like? as well as When God Made You and When I Pray for You. When the father of three isn’t writing books, he’s photographing interesting people and places, practicing wood carving, and watching his children play soccer. Visit his website at matthewpaulturner.com.Get the BookGuest Music by Forrest ClayYou can also find all the musical selections from all our episodes on our Spotify Playlist. Check out all the things over at the store...it's a great way to support the show www.canisaythisatchurch.com/storeWhat are you waiting for; consider becoming a Patreon supporter of the show. You'll have access to many perks as well as guaranteeing the future of these conversations; even $3/Month goes so far as this show is 100% listener supported. Follow the show:Facebook, Twitter, Store, BookShop.orgAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands

1hr 3mins

23 Apr 2022

Episode artwork

144: Give Your Kids a Better Script w/ Matthew Paul Turner

Parenting Forward

One of my favorite people, Hillary McBride, recently posted this on Twitter: “Spiritual trauma is someone handing you an inner critic and telling you it’s the voice of God.”  I love that quote because it paints the picture of religious trauma so well. Trauma doesn’t always have to involve one disastrous event; it can be the result of the script we were given in childhood that stuck with us. Matthew Paul Turner is a children’s author who does amazing work towards reversing that harmful script. He is trying to put a better story into the hearts and minds of children, specifically using the language and vocabulary of God.  Matthew is joining us on this episode of Parenting Forward to discuss some of his best-selling books. We also talk about how parents can give their kids a better script. If we don’t want our children to have to rewrite their scripts or “recover from God” in adulthood, we must be proactive about introducing them to God the right way now. Show Highlights: The script I was given as a child about God. The damage that harmful script does to children’s brains. The gossip chain that develops in fundamental communities. Why it’s so hard for us deconstructed believers to accept compliments or love ourselves. How our body holds trauma. Why Matthew didn’t write evangelical books. How children's books can benefit adults too. What it was like for Matthew to write his most recent book, I Am God’s Dream, right after coming out. How I Am God’s Dream teaches kids to be happy with their bodies. The importance of genuine apologies. Links (affiliates included): Matthew Paul Turner - https://matthewpaulturner.com Parenting is Revolutionary Conference: https://www.parentingforwardconference.com Register with the discount code: PFPOD for 20% off! Parenting After Religious Trauma Membership - https://cindy-brandt.mykajabi.com/partmembership Help keep the podcast going by joining the Parenting Forward Patreon Team - https://www.patreon.com/cindywangbrandt Parenting Forward, the Book - https://amzn.to/3g0LJPn *** EPISODE CREDITS: If you like this podcast and are thinking of creating your own, consider talking to my producer, Emerald City Productions. They helped me grow and produce the podcast you are listening to right now. Find out more at https://emeraldcitypro.com Let them know we sent you.


18 Apr 2022

Episode artwork

045 - Matthew Paul Turner | The God We Give Kids Shouldn’t Have To Be Recovered From


On today’s episode, Meghan and Cortland chat with New York Times Bestselling Children’s book author Matthew Paul Turner. In this interview Matthew shares his story of growing up in fundamentalism, discovering Sandi Patty, and starting down the slippery slope of Contemporary Christian Music. Matthew spent years working as a writer in the CCM world as well as writing several Christian books. As his faith expanded he began pushing back against the fundamentalism he grew up in advocating for a more inclusive faith. After finding an audience among the progressive faith community Matthew began writing Children’s books. We know our listeners will appreciate hearing stories behind his children’s book that are LGBTQ+ inclusive and create space for wonder and divinity unlike the messages so many of us received in church as kids. In 2020, after years as an ally and advocate for the LGBTQ+ community Matthew publicly came out as gay. Since coming out, Matthew and his incredibly supportive ex-wife Jessica have been a shining example of how families can support each other and embrace authenticity as they discover and embrace their truths together. Please take a minute to check out his website and pre-order his book, I Am God’s Dream, that comes out this month! Also, be sure to follow him on Twitter @HeyMPT and Instagram @MatthewPaulTurner.We start the episode with our usual #twitbits segment, but If you want to skip straight to the interview, jump to 23:10.As always, we love hearing from our listeners. Please consider leaving a rate and review on Apple Podcasts and reach out to say hello on social media.Twitter: Thereafter, Cortland, MeghanInstagram: Thereafter, Cortland, Meghan

1hr 26mins

5 Apr 2022

Episode artwork

145 - How Children's Books Can Shape Our View of God & Ourselves (feat. Matthew Paul Turner)

CXMH: On Faith & Mental Health

This week we’re joined by Matthew Paul Turner (author of children’s books like When God Made Light, When God Made You, and more). Matthew talks to us about why children’s books is important in our view of ourselves & God, he answers some questions from young fans, and he reads us some portions from his upcoming books. In the intro, Robert & Holly talk about their favorite children’s books.Things we mention in this episode/other resources:- Preorder Holly’s book, The Soul of the Helper: Seven Stages to Seeing the Sacred Within Yourself So You Can See It in Others!- Matthew’s books that we mention:- - I Am God’s Dream (releasing March 2022)- - What Is God Like? (with Rachel Held Evans)- - When God Made You- - When God Made Light- - When I Pray For You- - Our Great Big American God: A Short History of Our Ever-Growing Deity (one of MPT’s adult non-fiction books)Connect with Matthew on his website, Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, or YouTube. Buy his books on Amazon.Join the Cxmhunity on Facebook!Connect with Robert on his website, Twitter, Facebook, or Instagram.Connect with Holly on her website, Twitter, Facebook, or Instagram.Connect more with CXMH on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, or Pinterest.Ways to support CXMH:- make a pledge on Patreon and get rewards like submitting questions for upcoming interviews, a mug, sticker, t-shirt, or more!- give a one-time gift using PayPal- Buy books from previous guests on Bookshop- Do your Amazon shopping through this link- Leave us a rating & review on iTunes or Google Play- Check out our CXMH merchandise to show off your support- Check out other episodes and find your favorites guests on our website.Intro/Outro music for this episode is ‘Fall Down’ by Rivers & Robots.


24 Jan 2022

Episode artwork

Matthew Paul Turner

@ Sea with Justin McRoberts

When Rachel Held Evans died, on May 4 of 2019, she left a significant m emotional and cultural void; one that was felt by her followers and readers but also one that was felt differently by those she was working alongside. See, Rachel was part of a whole tribe of persons working to establish and celebrate a new language for a generation of people of faith. In the long shadow of her passing, other members of the tribe felt a kind of witty responsibility to continue the legacy she was forging. Among those people was (and is) Matthew Paul Turner. when I met Matthew recently, he was quite literally surrounded by hundreds of copies of his most recent children’s book. As a New York Times best-selling children’s author, Matthew had taken on the particular and beautiful responsibility of finishing a children’s book project Rachel had begun before she passed. Entitled, “What Is God Like?” the book is less an effort to answer the question precisely and more an imaginative exploration of the possibilities that question presents; possibilities that might mean that there is room in God for everyone. It is a poignant and appropriate continuation of Rachel Held Evans‘s legacy. It is also a beautiful and powerful addition to the body of work Matthew Paul Turner is releasing into the world.I truly enjoyed my conversation with Matthew and I think you will too. Check it out


19 Aug 2021

Episode artwork

Believe in Doubt with Matthew Paul Turner

Wild Precious Life

Matthew Paul Turner was raised in a religious family and has spent his career authoring books about faith. However, in this episode, Annmarie and Matthew talk about the importance of uncertainty, questions, and doubt. Matthew reminds us that doubt and belief can work together as both children and adults grow in love, faith, and understanding.


19 Aug 2021