329: John Kiely on Belief, Perception, and Placebos in an Optimized Training Process
Just Fly Performance Podcast
Today’s episode features John Kiely. John is a senior lecturer in Performance and Innovation at the University of Limerick. In addition to his current work with doctoral and Ph.D. candidates, John is a frequent keynote speaker, and has extensive athletic performance training and consultation experience. His coaching, consulting and advisory work includes numerous sports such as rugby, soccer/football, track and Paralympics. In his time as an athlete, John won multiple titles in kickboxing and boxing. John appeared years ago on episode 113 of the podcast.Training is much more than simply putting together a series of sets, reps and exercises, but invokes the “totality” of a human being. This totality includes not only the body and mechanical forces, but also the mind and one’s environmental influence. In other words, your training results are a factor of both your program, perceptions and environment, and the roles of the latter must not be minimized.On today’s show, John will cover training on the level of placebo and nocebo effects, the impact of an athlete’s beliefs and perception of the training session, coaching practice to engage the mind, as well as the idea of a “screen for beliefs” when starting a period of training with an athlete. This is an awesome episode that really helps us understand the fullness of the processes involved within adapting to a training stimulus or program.Today’s episode is brought to you by SimpliFaster, Lost Empire Herbs, and the Elastic Essentials online course.For 15% off your Lost Empire Herbs order, head to lostempireherbs.com/justfly.To try Pine Pollen for FREE (just pay for shipping), head to: justflypinepollen.comView more podcast episodes at the podcast homepage.Timestamps and Main Points:3:51 – What John means by the idea: “The worth of a training program is not contained in the prescription”15:06 – Looking at training on the level of placebo and nocebo effects25:28 – How to ethically and optimally leverage the placebo effect in coaching33:18 – What type of intellectual participation is ideal for athletes in the course of a training day46:23 – How perception of the training session is going to have a substantial impact on how an athlete will adapt52:57 – Program repeatability and novelty elements in training58:27 – John’s take on a “screen for beliefs” in athletic coaching“From a practical perspective, going back to the 40s and 50s, (the great coaches) were good communicators, inspirational, they were able to get ideas and perspectives out of their heads, into the athlete’s heads”“Some great coaches have really average programs, but the key is that the athlete buys into them”“It’s important what people’s health behaviors are, but what’s really important is how people believe their health behaviors are”“How can I screen an athlete for their beliefs”“What (removing perception of threat) allows you to do is release more resources (to training)”“So all placebo is, is I’m taking a cue from the external world, I’m believing the future is a little brighter, and I can release more resources”“Releasing resources can be thinking, thinking demands energy, it demands cerebral blood flow”“Even a coach’s facial expression, if interpreted as negative, has a negative effect on athletes… I need to be conscious that if I give negative signals, it is going to affect the training”“We have made the assumption that you can predict training outcomes, but the evidence is completely against that”“It’s what athletes are paying attention to, and how they are interpreting those signals”“If you want something to hurt more, think about it more”“The reality is, it is not the physical act that activates the stress response, the stress response is activated by your perception of what is going to happen, and how your body needs to prepare for that”
Today Angus sits down with a long time hero of his, and well and truly picks his brains about coaching philosophies, "evidence based" training, and many of the helpful lessons Angus has picked up from John's work over the years. Check out John Kiely on instagram! (@simplysportssci) Check out our sponsor Paieon Health! https://paieonhealth.com.au/ DISCOUNT CODES: "HYPERFLY20" at the checkout to get 20% off a Flywheel! "HYPERTIBS20" at the checkout to get 20% off a Tib-bar! Let us know what you think! Leave us a voice message: https://www.speakpipe.com/hyperformancepodcast To Find programs, products, and other content: https://linktr.ee/hyperformancemedia
On this episode we welcome Drew's hero to the conversation: Dr. John Kiely. He established himself as a serious athlete with several Irish national championships in kickboxing and Muay Thai and ultimately won the Irish heavyweight boxing championship twice. After his competitive career he set out on his career in strength and conditioning which has taken him to the highest levels of sport in Europe. He's coached world champions and Olympians in a wide variety of sports, he's coached teams at the highest levels of soccer and track and field. But what he's best known for now is his writing, much of which is critical of periodization theory, especially the way many of its traditional paradigms are based on outdated stress science. At its root, this is a conversation about how humans are not robots, and the non-physical components of training are almost certainly more important than the details of the physical aspect. You can find his publications here: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/John-Kiely You can learn about the Professional Doctorate in Human Performance and Innovation program he works with at the University of Limerick here: https://www.ul.ie/gps/human-performance-and-innovation-professional-doctorate
#17 - John Kiely - Coordination, Performance, Rehabilitation, Coaching, Placebo,
Oxidative Potential Podcast
On the show in this episode is John Kiely PhD. John is an absolute brilliant thinker in the realm of physical preparation. Currently holding position at the PE and Sports Science department of the University of Limerick, Ireland. John is also a Senior Lecturer in Performance & Innovation, a well renowned S&C Coach, and rehab specialist that has worked with athletes of the highest pedigree including olympic, paralympic, world champion, as well as rugby & soccer world cups.Links to JohnTwitter:https://twitter.com/simplysportssci?lang=enPapers:https://www.researchgate.net/profile/John-Kiely/researchOxidative Potential Podcast LinksMoxy Monitor Discount:For a 5% discount on a Moxy Monitor purchase use promocode: OXPOhttps://www.moxymonitor.com/Instagram Links:https://www.instagram.com/criticalo2/?hl=enhttps://www.instagram.com/resiliencehpc/?hl=enYoutube Links:https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfkBVklDMTPMbaPw0ikG2tgWebsite Links:https://www.resiliencehpc.ca/
The podcast is BACK! We're delighted to be back and we've got some great conversations ahead for you! We've taken a bit of a break and now we're recording again Expect to hear from great scientist, coaches and athletes. Unique to the podcast we'll still be speaking those people outside of sport who are performers themselves or have insights that can inform what we do. We'll also be adding more voices from entrepreneurs out there; both business builder and consultants. We think the world has shifted in the way we work and we want to lean into hearing from people about making a living by selling what you know and can do. This week on the podcast I speak to Senior Lecturer Performance and Innovation at the University of Limerick, John Kiely. John has an incredible background as a combat athlete, strength and conditioning coach and leader of high performance teams, with extensive experience in athletics. But over the last 15 years or so John has thought deeply about the principles with which we work, especially around the area of periodisation and athlete preparation. His publications in this area have provoked a rethink about the whole paradigm - leading me to wonder just how many of the concepts we think are foundational don't have great foundations at all? Follow John on Twitter https://twitter.com/simplysportssci Instagram https://instagram/simplysportssci Researchgate https://www.researchgate.net/profile/John-Kiely Hi, I'm Steve Ingham, I help aspiring and professional Performance Science and Support Staff improve their skills, experience and mindset for working with sports performers through a range of online courses and an exclusive community hub https://www.supportingchampions.co.uk/onlinecourse If you're working in sports performance or business and want to get support to develop your team and systems - take a look at what I offer here - https://www.supportingchampions.co.uk/speaking/ Links Twitter at https://twitter.com/ingham_steve Supporting Champions on Twitter www.twitter.com/support_champs Supporting Champions on Linkedin, www.linkedin.com/company/supporting-champions Instagram And Instagram https://www.instagram.com/steveandingham https://www.instagram.com/supportingchampions/
#26 John Kiely on Predictions, Placebo & Smoothness in Running
THE DGR PODCAST
We’re giving you 20% discount off our annual membership over on DGR Interactive. Just use the code dgrpodcast at the checkout. Visit the DGR INTERACTIVE platform and use Code DGRPODCAST for 20% off! In this episode of the David Grey Rehab Podcast, I welcome John Kiely, Senior Lecturer in Performance & Innovation at the University of Limerick. John is a former competitive athlete, a long-time Coach/S&C/Rehab. Olympics; Paralympics; World Championships; Rugby & Soccer World Cups. PhD. And a self proclaimed Part-jock/Part-nerd. More than anyone else, John has massively influenced the way I think and speak about movement, so we’re all in for a real treat with this episode! Listen in as we discuss periodization training, coordination and reflexes, smoothness in running, and the benefits and dangers of using placebos and nocebos while training athletes. You’ll learn our thoughts on how to instill confidence in rehab clients, the issue with technical models of movement, whether or not you can train coordination in athletes, the roles of the brain and spine in running, and much more! “Belief isn’t just a ‘nice-to-have’, it’s not just a feeling like it’s the right thing to do, it actually has a difference in outcomes. It has a difference in perception, in motion, in cognition, in athletes’ sense of trust with their coach, but also it will regulate how well they can perform.” – John Kiely Episode Timeline | What You’ll Learn: 00:00 – Introducing John Kiely & The topics of today’s episode. 06:10 – John’s background in sports, coaching, writing, and teaching. 09:51 – The power of questioning your biases and beliefs and evaluating your predictions and mistakes. 17:52 – How to instill confidence in rehab clients who are feeling uncertain about the rehab process. 20:07 – How coaches can leverage the benefits of the placebo and nocebo effects in athletes’ training and performance. 29:30 – When the athlete/coach relationship weakens, performance weakens. 33:45 – Can you be strategically inconsistent in coaching? 26:16 – Defining coordination and smoothness in running. 41:23 – Is more variability associated with more jerk? 43:54 – Can you avoid compromising efficiency and energy in running? Are there benefits to exposing runners to stress and fatigue? 49:31 – Given the variations in smoothness of running, is there a right way to run? 59:26 – The issue with technical models of movement & Is there a time we stop learning and developing our bodily movements? 1:10:49 – Why there’s no real framework for training coordination & John’s opinion of Frans Bosch. 1:16:12 – What roles do the brain and the spine have in running/sprinting? 1:23:55 – Which 3 people would you bring to a deserted island? If you enjoyed this podcast, SHARE it with a loved one and RATE/REVIEW it on Spotify or Apple Podcasts! Connect with John Kiely: Follow him on Twitter Follow him on Instagram Check out his research publications Connect with David Grey Rehab: Visit our website Follow David Grey Rehab on Instagram Listen to more podcast episodes Subscribe to our YouTube channel Visit the DGR INTERACTIVE platform! Check out our programs John Kiely is a Senior Lecturer in Performance and Innovation at the University of Limerick. He is a former competitive athlete and has since worked with football/soccer, hurling, track and field, and rugby athletes of all levels. In his current role, he supervises Professional Doctoral and PhD candidates working within professional multi-disciplinary performance environments and pursuing practice-based post-graduate qualifications. His current research interests revolve around human performance, and include: The detrimental effects of fatigue on running coordination; the modernizing of Periodization planning paradigms; stress as it relates to performance and health; genetics and sports performance; and the link between fitness, movement, cognition and emotional health. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Yg0Irhyow4
D.I.O. Talk Episode #2.0(Spotify Video) with Founder & CEO of Pawfessional Pet Care John Kiely.
John Kiely is a 15-year pet care veteran and founder Pawfessional Pet Care Services in Jersey City, New Jersey. Pawfessional Pet Care Services provides walking, pet sitting, day-care & boarding. In this episode of DioTalk, we talk about family values, business, and fatherhood among others. For more information regarding Pawfessional Pet Care Services: Contact: (201)779-2236 Email: firstname.lastname@example.org Instagram: @pawfessionalpetcare You can also check them out on YELP: yelp.to/qTKq/JdU7AgODzJ--- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/appSupport this podcast: https://anchor.fm/dreaminspireobtain/support
#35 - Dan Morrissey On Winning 3 All Irelands | 2018 Breakthrough | John Kiely & Paul Kinnerk Influence & More
The GAA FAN TV Podcast
New podcast up on Youtube, Spotify and all podcasting apps with Limerick & Ahane Senior Hurler Dan Morrissey. We discuss in detail Limericks success over the last 4 years including Limericks breakthrough in 2018 and what changed from the years previous. John Kiely & Paul Kinnerk Influence. The 2019 loss to Kilkenny. Winning the All Ireland again in 2020 and playing winter hurling. The 10 point turnaround vs Tipp in this years Munster Final. What made Limerick tick in the 2021 All Ireland Final & more!
“We’re good, but not perfect” – John Kiely shares his thoughts ahead of Sunday’s Munster Final
“We are focused on Sunday for what it is, a Munster final. They are huge occasions for players. We spent years where we couldn’t qualify for a Munster final so we are very appreciative to have qualified for another one. We want to make sure we recognise that honour of contesting the Munster final and hopefully we produce a performance worthy of being there."Limerick manager John Kiely shared his thoughts ahead of Limerick’s Munster final clash with Tipperary this Sunday.