PT239 - Richie Ogulnick - Ibogaine, Unicity, and Beneficence
In this episode, Joe interviews Richie Ogulnick, a facilitator/guide who has been helping clients through ibogaine experiences for 27 years. They talk about his practice, different methodologies, intentions, and why iboga works. www.psychedelicstoday.com
Richie Ogulnick has worked with Ibogaine for decades and is a pioneer of the Ibogaine Movement. We discuss: Richie’s story of ibogaine and how he brought it from Africa to the US; the allure of heroin and other drugs; the importance of surrender; ibogaine itself: experience, risks + post-session effects; common threads of addiction and relapse + why most therapy and drug rehab doesn’t work; iboga vs ibogaine; anecdotes of low dose ibogaine for conditions such as parkinson’s disease; Richie’s formulation of a vietnamese herbal opiate remedy and his subsequent encounter with the FDA; morality and the sense of good and evil; monism and dualism; divine will, psychosis and the different responses to each from east/west + much more. Connect with Richie:Iboga with Richie Email Resources:Breaking Open the Head by Daniel Pinchbeck (describes the Iboga experience with members of the Bwiti faith)Buddha at the Gas Pump Stats - Ibogaine risk vs Opiates The primary reason ibogaine is illegal in many places globally is because of “ibogaine’s potential to do harm”. Below are some stats to put that view into perspective.There were an estimated 27 million people who suffered from opioid use disorders in 2016. 118 thousand people died in 2015 alone due to opioid use. (source) In the US in 2017, 29,000 died alone due to synthetic pharmaceutical opioids such as methadone. (source) Since presumably the 1960’s 27 deaths in total have been reported from from ibogaine use, 21 of which had pre-existing heart conditions. (source) Some ibogaine-induced neurotoxicity has been demonstrated in rat models, however this was demonstrated with very high doses (100 mg/kg & 300 mg/kg. Doses of 40mg/kg did not demonstrate neurotoxicity. (source)For reference, a typical human dose of ibogaine is usually within the range of 12-20mg/kg. (source)Recorded in Christchurch, New Zealand
Richie Ogulnick - Ibogaine Uses and Addiction-Interruption Therapy
Download In this episode Joe interviews, Richie Ogulnick, a long time Ibogaine provider and enthusiast. During the show they discuss Ibogaine and Addiction-Interruption Therapy. 3 Key Points: Ibogaine is a compound found in the Tabernanthe Iboga plant that has been used to treat opioid and other addictions. Ibogaine has shown to have the power to reset the biochemistry of a person to a non-addictive state, and reduce/eliminate the agonizing symptoms of withdrawal, allowing a person to heal from an addiction. The combination of Ibogaine, relocation and integration therapy is the best scenario for healing someone and preventing them from relapse. Support the show Patreon Leave us a review on iTunes Share us with your friends – favorite podcast, etc Join our Facebook group - Psychedelics Today group – Find the others and create community. Navigating Psychedelics Show Notes About Richie In 1989 he was Introduced to Ibogaine while visiting family and friends in New York Its an alkaloid extracted from a West African shrub He was ready to fall in love with doing something with purpose He came across an article about a corporation called NDA created by Howard Lotsof When Howard (a heroine addict) was 19 years old, a chemist gave him a dose of Ibogaine A few days later, he realized he “wasn't afraid” and then he realized he wasn't having opioid withdrawals In “Needle Park”, a park in New York, heroin addicts come there for free needles Richie’s dream was to dose all the addicts with Ibogaine, and that only a quarter of them would show up to Needle Park because they were not addicted anymore He brought 13 grams of Ibogaine back from Africa with him He received a chapter from a book (Healing Journey) called Ibogaine: Fantasy and Reality by Claudio Naranjo People were coming from all over the world to receive Ibogaine treatments It was 15 years where he conducted over 750 psycho-spiritual and addiction-interception sessions underground Upon training people, those people would then go and open their own treatment centers in Mexico, abroad, etc. What is Iboga Tabernanthe Iboga is the plant Ibogaine Hydrochloride is the best product to use to interrupt addiction and symptoms of withdrawal from an addiction Ibogaine is safe as long as someone has had an EKG that has been looked at very closely for any red flags Other than cardiac risk and previous suicidality, schizophrenia, psychotic breaks there aren't many more threats to being treated with Ibogaine The Miracle Compound “There is a miracle compound in ibogaine. There is nothing I have come across on the planet that can reset the biochemistry to a pre-addictive state, that can bring a person to make a choice without the agony of the symptoms of withdrawal.” - Richie There is a 36 hour window where a person has a life review, what brought them to the addictive process in the first place, the person's willingness and maturity It creates a symbiotic relationship for a person to explore themselves with insight Relapse is possible if they don't work on the reason they became addicted in the first place It's the witness component that Ibogaine delivers that helps people process through their addiction Ibogaine as a molecule has a really pharmacologically complex, alien like structure Relapse Justin Hoffman, a DJ in Las Vegas runs Holistic House, a facility where people get to relax and get out of their previous context for a week or two after treatment If a family wanted to help out their family member who is addicted to heroine, Richie says that he asks the family about relocation because it's a big part of reducing relapse He also says that finding a proper therapist to help afterward is huge too The combination of Ibogaine, relocation and integration therapy is the best scenario for healing someone and preventing them from relapse Big Pharma’s Impact Joe says how he got a message from Dana Biel, talking about how the harm reduction movement has been manipulated by the ‘Big Pharma’ industry, especially suboxone Richie says that drugs like suboxone are prescribed to be used everyday for the rest of someone's life, and Ibogaine is a “one-time-only” style drug that doesn't require alot of money to heal people Ibogaine is not profitable so its not attractive to Big Pharma “Ibogaine will never hit the streets like LSD did. It's not a recreational experience, it's a long, daunting 3 stage process.” - Richie Use Cases He knows of a story where these two ladies took Ibogaine daily for their Parkinson's, and as soon as they stopped taking Ibogaine, they got their symptoms back He knows of another lady who had been walking with a cane and upon taking Ibogaine she was walking a mile around her neighborhood without her cane Final Thoughts Joe asks if Richie thinks we are over harvesting Iboga There is the Wakanga tree that contains a small amount of Ibogaine, so he thinks we are okay Ibogaine is an important subject because a lot of people are dying from opiates Ibogaine is available in Portugal but it hasn't had much activity It can be used for therapeutic use as well as addiction-interruption Links website Richie Ogulnick is a long time Ibogaine provider and enthusiast Over the course of fifteen and a half years, he conducted about 750 sessions, including addiction-interruption treatments. He spent the next several years referring close to 1,000 more people to other ibogaine providers. During that time, he also trained doctors and ex-addicts who opened ibogaine centers throughout the world. Richie feels a pull to focus again on the more therapeutic and psycho-spiritual treatments where he is able to offer his expertise in ibogaine treatment along with his knowledge of reintegration with individuals who are looking to deepen and enrich their life experience.
27: Out of the Box Heroine Detox With Richie Ogulnick
Families Navigating Addiction & Recovery
“What Ibogaine does is it gives people the insight that they have to…have the courage to do something that they must do.” –Richie Ogulnick Who would dare be a major proponent of an unfamiliar heroine detox with just a flickering assurance of success? Not even this man- Richie Ogulnick, a simple Jewish jeweler from the Bronx who has not even the slightest experience with addiction. But with just one phone call, he was off to Africa to embark on this very challenging adventure to become one of the pioneer enthusiasist of this method. Dreaded about addiction are the agonizing effects that comes with withdrawal. It’s even worse than addiction itself that some have hesitated to walk the path of sobriety. As Jeff was one advocate of multiple avenues on healing addiction, he sits with Richie Ogulnick to talk about what this out of the box heroine detox is about and how one can be eligible to undergo the process. Contrary to conventional treatment methods, Ibogaine treatment promises a quick somatic reset without the anguish brought by withdrawal symptoms. Just how this happens and what true healing entails is discussed in today’s podcast. Listen in as Jeff and Richie revisit the story of this auspicious encounter with Iboga, the roots of addiction and what every family considering addiction treatment has to know. Get the show notes, transcription and resources mentioned at http://thefamilyrecoverysolution.com/ Highlights: 02:55 1989-An Intriguing Encounter 11:55 Off to Africa 19:05 Watch Out for Red Flags! 29:02 What Constitutes Healing? 46:09 What's There Yet to Dream
DMT EP06 - Richie Ogulnick - The Johnny Appleseed of Ibogaine
Dimitri Mugianis Talks
This week's episode features a conversation with Richie Ogulnick. Richie is a pioneer of underground treatment with ibogaine in the United States. We talk about his mystical journey from being influenced by Howard Lotsof's serendipitous discovery of ibogaine's addiction interrupting effects, to traveling to Africa and finding a source for ibogaine HCL, and adapting Chilean psychiatrist and early psychedelic research Claudio Naranjo's protocol for using ibogaine during psychospiritual sessions to instead treat addicts. Other topics include harm reduction, discovering Heantos (an herbal combination from Vietnam) as a tool for addicts to mitigate their tolerance to opiates without detoxing, getting shutdown by the FDA, and his vision for treatment of opiate use disorder.
Richie Ogulnick is one of the big proponents of Ibogaine, a psychedelic drug famous for battling addiction. He talks about his discovery of the iboga plant, his trip to Cameroon to find out more about it, and his years of teaching people about what he's learned. Richie also founded the International Children's Awareness Network. https://www.facebook.com/richard.ogulnick from BlueBird Botanicals // Music from Brett Van Donsel // Birdsong from Lang Elliott