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Ep. 414 Dr. Jeff Duke| 3D Institute

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Dr. Jeff Duke is a former college football coach who is now a professor at the University of Central Florida.  He is an expert regarding the cultural influence of the coaching profession.  Jeff coached under legendary head football coach Bobby Bowden at Florida State, he worked for Disney and now is a lecturer at UCF.  

He is also an author and the founder of the 3D Institute, an organization established in 2014 aimed at providing the framework for coaching that addresses all three dimensions of an athlete, built on foundation of purpose, delivered through workshops and online learning. 


00:00:19.980 --> 00:00:27.420 Joel Goldberg: Jeff good to catch up with you again. And I know that when we were introduced. I was excited to meet you, but I don't know that I

6 00:00:27.840 --> 00:00:35.370 Joel Goldberg: I knew you wore many hats. It's one of my favorite first questions to ask so many of my guests, because a lot of my guests. Don't just do one thing.

7 00:00:36.030 --> 00:00:44.190 Joel Goldberg: You've got your hands in a lot really any one of three things. Maybe I'm missing something to any one of three things could be

8 00:00:44.760 --> 00:01:01.980 Joel Goldberg: The full time profession and nothing else but yet you've got, I believe, three of these amazing, amazing jobs between professor and coach and then there's the 3D Institute, you gotta, you gotta be a very busy man and I'm guessing that you enjoy it that way.

9 00:01:02.460 --> 00:01:07.320 jduke: I do do I do this the joy I recaptured the joy of a sport. When I was about 40

10 00:01:07.710 --> 00:01:18.720 jduke: And that was kind of crazy, crazy store into itself, but that just reengage I got away from what I really enjoyed doing, which was being involved with coaching and all that. And it's funny how you get pulled away from things in life.

11 00:01:19.590 --> 00:01:29.700 jduke: Good thing so wasn't a big major tragedy but I got pulled away and I couldn't understand why I didn't have a little bit of more peace and contentment in my life. And a lot of the boxes were checked. As far as great wife.

12 00:01:30.660 --> 00:01:40.350 jduke: Solid family good home, all that kind of stuff. Yet I would not have this piece. And so at 40 I was able to reengage back in the joy. So that's what I do my hang around hanging around coaches.

13 00:01:40.860 --> 00:01:50.970 Joel Goldberg: Yeah, and I would say, how do you and maybe it's all the above, do you describe yourself as a more of a teacher, a coach or a storyteller. All the above

14 00:01:51.060 --> 00:01:59.160 jduke: Yeah, I think all the people to ask me. So what do you, you know, you know, in our culture today. What do you do, I'd rather say, Well who are you

15 00:01:59.610 --> 00:02:05.520 jduke: Who are you, what are you about what do you do, because then you people want a career. So my you know my immediate answer, I'm an offensive coordinator

16 00:02:05.880 --> 00:02:17.100 jduke: At a high school in Central Florida or that'll get you a lot of national podcast, get you on that kind of stuff. But I am I still do. I am. It's what I do. But I, if I was just summarize that I would say the coaching education.

17 00:02:17.910 --> 00:02:26.730 jduke: Or coaching ministry and and those words are very close together. And I don't mean that in a religious context, this idea that coaches have impact and influence

18 00:02:27.090 --> 00:02:36.180 jduke: Greater into our culture than maybe any other person right now, just because of this massive you know influence that we have with us for

19 00:02:37.440 --> 00:02:46.830 Joel Goldberg: The reason why I know that this is going to be such a great podcast is that I walked away from our conversation. I don't know that I walked away by the way we don't necessarily walk away from conversation.

20 00:02:46.830 --> 00:02:46.890 jduke: In

21 00:02:46.980 --> 00:02:48.540 Joel Goldberg: A literal sense anymore, right, you just

22 00:02:49.080 --> 00:02:58.800 Joel Goldberg: You just click a button and you move on to the next one. That's the, that's the quarantine world and you and I are recording this year in the earlier part of June.

23 00:02:59.340 --> 00:03:05.520 Joel Goldberg: But I suspect that as this is released. And of course these podcasts can be listened to years down the road.

24 00:03:06.000 --> 00:03:13.440 Joel Goldberg: As well, but to set the scene where we're still dealing with a pandemic. A lot of people are kind of reemerging and getting back into the office.

25 00:03:13.800 --> 00:03:17.850 Joel Goldberg: We're dealing with a lot of protests right now that have been going on for a couple of weeks so

26 00:03:18.600 --> 00:03:29.340 Joel Goldberg: As I've said over and over again. And I think you and I talked about this, what's going on in the world affects all of us right now this isn't a any type of business. This isn't any type of the sport.

27 00:03:30.120 --> 00:03:45.210 Joel Goldberg: As a professor at the University of Central Florida. I'm sure this is very much on your mind beyond just the fact that it's it's such a part of everyone's life. I mean, you don't even know right now with the ball looks like in terms of football and in terms of school do

28 00:03:45.630 --> 00:03:52.470 jduke: Yeah, it's very, I was just talking with a group of coaches this past weekend and the uncertainty has created a lot of question marks.

29 00:03:53.580 --> 00:03:59.340 jduke: Since certainly doesn't make a difference what living talking about when you talk about club or travel or high school ball or college ball or

30 00:03:59.670 --> 00:04:03.720 jduke: Or professional ball. It's the uncertainty of what's do it. And it's that uncertainty.

31 00:04:04.050 --> 00:04:13.500 jduke: That's created a lot of questions I there's a healthy component that's coming out. It's not don't want to diminish the virus and all that, because it's real and and get that it, but it has

32 00:04:14.460 --> 00:04:26.370 jduke: reinstituted some great questions. Why do we do sport because so much of the media is now focused on this desire to get sport back and I you think about when you really think about it, sport is discretionary.

33 00:04:27.000 --> 00:04:33.570 jduke: There's no law says we got a place where a single local state or national law says we have sport, but people are desperate to get sport back

34 00:04:33.840 --> 00:04:41.430 jduke: And we're seeing articles written and we're seeing podcast people talking about and when you just and just undo the onion layer just a little bit. What do they really want

35 00:04:41.730 --> 00:04:52.410 jduke: There's something powerful about when people come together with a common cause. And somehow that comes together in a good way and good results take place and we're drawn to that.

36 00:04:52.830 --> 00:05:00.030 jduke: You know, we look at the whole movement right now. The Black Lives Matter what people are drawn to something because they want something to be better.

37 00:05:00.330 --> 00:05:05.820 jduke: So that's why we, what do we do we gather, you know, and it's interesting, right now, so we you know we have these protests.

38 00:05:06.150 --> 00:05:11.190 jduke: And yet we're trying to figure out, social distancing because of the buyers. But yet, there's this draw to be together.

39 00:05:11.580 --> 00:05:21.420 jduke: To do something good to help and support is kind of a microcosm that whether that's a literally team or a high school team or college team. There's something about rallying around something

40 00:05:21.870 --> 00:05:36.900 jduke: That you have a common cause that you want to be a part of. And then hopefully something good comes out of it and we're missing that and so everybody's desperate to try to get sport back together in a way beyond my pay grade add you to that. I don't know. But it's an interesting time

41 00:05:37.410 --> 00:05:44.880 Joel Goldberg: Well, there's an interesting study here, I think. And I mentioned that, because I know that you spend so much of your time.

42 00:05:45.450 --> 00:05:53.730 Joel Goldberg: In terms of research and studying and it's one of the reasons why it's so thoroughly enjoyed our conversation because you gave a perspective on on things that I think I had but

43 00:05:54.150 --> 00:06:00.900 Joel Goldberg: But you almost challenged me whether you intending to or not to dig deeper in what I was looking at a lot of the lies and

44 00:06:01.560 --> 00:06:09.600 Joel Goldberg: And I think, by the way. I think that's a lot of coaching, too. So I could see where we're every bit of what you're doing kind of pulls together.

45 00:06:10.140 --> 00:06:17.430 Joel Goldberg: And and it's interesting, but there has to be a phenomenon here and and this is a bit of what you're talking about, of being cooped up

46 00:06:18.000 --> 00:06:30.870 Joel Goldberg: And we we exercise that ability to maybe that's not the right way to put it. But, but we we get out of that being locked up being in the house.

47 00:06:31.440 --> 00:06:40.740 Joel Goldberg: By going out there and go into the theater or going to sports or even going to class are going to work, and now suddenly there's no outlet. And so when you see a movement.

48 00:06:41.250 --> 00:06:53.130 Joel Goldberg: Like the Black Lives Matter movement. And I mean, ultimately, I would say, and we don't need to get into a whole political discussion, although I've been having these discussions. I'm not afraid to do it probably was afraid to happen before but

49 00:06:55.500 --> 00:07:02.370 Joel Goldberg: People want to get out right now. And so I have wondered what this what all the rallies would look like.

50 00:07:03.060 --> 00:07:07.830 Joel Goldberg: If we had just been going about our everyday life of why I gotta go to work today. Oh, I'm going to school today.

51 00:07:08.130 --> 00:07:18.390 Joel Goldberg: I don't know that it would have been people cared less I ultimately think that people watched a murder and that moved them to do something that they were moved to do before, but I have to think that there's also an attachment to this.

52 00:07:18.780 --> 00:07:21.990 Joel Goldberg: To this pandemic and the way our lives have changed over the last few months.

53 00:07:22.230 --> 00:07:32.160 jduke: Absolutely, I believe that, too. I believe everything is amplified when we're isolated I thoroughly believe as the human race. We are meant to commune.

54 00:07:32.640 --> 00:07:35.370 jduke: The word community means to commune.

55 00:07:35.700 --> 00:07:48.750 jduke: To be together. And when we're together we learn from each other. There's only one way to learn about anything. And that's to be together you know you can learn online you can learn about something, but you really can't learn about an individual or what

56 00:07:48.990 --> 00:07:52.470 jduke: People are going through whether, whatever it may be. If we don't come in.

57 00:07:53.040 --> 00:07:59.640 jduke: We've got five senses and when we engage all five senses. That's when great learning takes place. You know, there's an old saying you know why the

58 00:07:59.970 --> 00:08:08.340 jduke: Why does the old traditional church have dinner on the grounds, you know, remember that old think dinner on the ground. You know, you go to church. So then you have this because there's something when you engage the

59 00:08:09.270 --> 00:08:24.600 jduke: The tasting in the smelling. And then when we see in here in touch and we can be a part of that we just weren't we become better when we're together. That's the beauty of sport done well and we can also say that's the ugly when sports not done. Well, how many times we say

60 00:08:24.840 --> 00:08:34.710 jduke: Admin team came together. We said team gel that team has team chemistry, they, they have one heartbeat, we just throw words at it because we can't really describe it.

61 00:08:35.100 --> 00:08:41.430 jduke: But boy, you can tell when it's real. And so when we are separated isolated, there's this need to commune.

62 00:08:42.090 --> 00:08:50.670 jduke: With the tragedy that took place. It has created the need a deeper need to commune and now it's rallying around a bigger issue, maybe than just winning all gamer to

63 00:08:50.880 --> 00:08:58.530 jduke: And that is looking at real social injustice. And what do I do, and how do I react and what's my, what's my next step because I want to be a team player.

64 00:08:58.860 --> 00:09:05.940 jduke: And I hear that all the time. I want to be a team player, no matter your race. We're all going. I want to be a team player in this so we automatically put the

65 00:09:06.570 --> 00:09:14.280 jduke: Sport vernacular back into something bigger than that. And I think that I think can be really healthy and that's a. It's good. It's been healthy for me.

66 00:09:14.640 --> 00:09:15.450 Joel Goldberg: They mention

67 00:09:15.720 --> 00:09:16.860 jduke: Questions and I like that.

68 00:09:17.910 --> 00:09:24.870 Joel Goldberg: I've found that it's been very healthy for me. And I have found myself, you know, slowly, not, not

69 00:09:25.470 --> 00:09:33.840 Joel Goldberg: checking off lists or just, hey, let me let me call all my African American friends today, but just as different friends have popped into my head just just checking in.

70 00:09:34.140 --> 00:09:40.440 Joel Goldberg: And saying, how you doing, and and it's a tough conversation sometimes minute some of the conversations that I've really appreciated have been

71 00:09:40.710 --> 00:09:46.200 Joel Goldberg: My black friends saying, Hey, let's talk about it. I'd love to talk about it and just just sitting via zoom and

72 00:09:46.680 --> 00:09:53.790 Joel Goldberg: And having a conversation for an hour or even two hours and just trying to understand greater perspective. I mean, I hope that's what comes of this and

73 00:09:54.150 --> 00:10:06.090 Joel Goldberg: And I said before, I don't want to want to get political. And I almost think that that's a default that I've used for so many years. I want to stop doing that because there shouldn't be anything on safe about talking about this and

74 00:10:07.470 --> 00:10:19.920 Joel Goldberg: I think maybe the reason why I said that with you is that I have a list of about 1000 other things I want to talk about and I have been talking about these issues, but I do want to ask one more thing related to what's going on with race because

75 00:10:21.030 --> 00:10:29.310 Joel Goldberg: You have been in a sport for many years, and certainly we're at one of the highest levels as as a as a coach at Florida State for Bobby Bowden

76 00:10:29.820 --> 00:10:39.570 Joel Goldberg: Football like basketball is a sport where African Americans are in the majority, almost all the time, certainly at a college and ugly college program.

77 00:10:39.870 --> 00:10:50.910 Joel Goldberg: Like a Florida State. And so I'm wondering what your perspective on that is having spent so many years of your life in diverse backgrounds and having seen some things maybe differently than others have seen

78 00:10:51.420 --> 00:10:59.490 jduke: Yeah, it's good. You know, one thing that I've had. You had a great conference as we all have, and I like what I like. What's really come out of this, this idea of listening.

79 00:11:00.360 --> 00:11:07.350 jduke: You know, one of the greatest teachers at all, said all of you that have ears. Listen, you can have ears. But now, listen.

80 00:11:07.830 --> 00:11:20.730 jduke: And in one of the questions that I had to ask myself that it was good is where does prejudice come from, because I have grown up in a very diverse background both coaching growing up and and so I will use the term a long time. Well, I don't see color.

81 00:11:21.510 --> 00:11:32.700 jduke: But during this whole pandemic virus being isolated by myself in just with local family. It's made me take an internal look of what I value in life. And then the issue of

82 00:11:33.180 --> 00:11:39.840 jduke: Black Lives Matter, so you know it's come to the forefront and it's made me ask myself, so what prejudices. Do I have and where have they come from.

83 00:11:40.230 --> 00:11:52.230 jduke: And what I found out so often, it's always based when I don't know what others are like, I just don't. So I make these assumptions and these assumptions are based on just whatever however I take in information.

84 00:11:52.680 --> 00:12:07.170 jduke: And so sometimes that information then becomes part of what you what you believe. And so as I got more involved in coaching years ago I really begin the beauty of sport. The real good of sport is that you really do kind of based

85 00:12:08.280 --> 00:12:15.210 jduke: This idea of what people do on a performance base. It has very little to do with ethnicity or race or

86 00:12:15.510 --> 00:12:29.610 jduke: Or socio economic background. It has the ability. Can we get better at doing whatever the skill set is we hadn't. How do we motivate people to do that. And so because of that, I've never seen the issue, but I found out that was my issue.

87 00:12:29.970 --> 00:12:35.880 jduke: I had never looked at the issue I'm fully look at it from my side. You know, I would say, I love all people. I do. I don't have

88 00:12:36.180 --> 00:12:45.780 jduke: I don't wake up in the morning with a sense of hatred towards me. But what I realized it's I did not know what maybe others have grown up and let me just use this one example.

89 00:12:46.470 --> 00:12:56.550 jduke: I grew up in Miami and I'm old now and I was in middle school or junior high at the time. And I remember showing up at my thing was seventh grade I showed my school in the fall.

90 00:12:56.910 --> 00:12:59.910 jduke: And schools will be an integrated in Florida for the first time.

91 00:13:00.780 --> 00:13:09.870 jduke: And so, you know, I obviously had been at all white school I show up at a junior high, and all of a sudden, some buses come up with a bunch of black kids on. Now, here was my thought.

92 00:13:10.530 --> 00:13:14.460 jduke: That's no big deal. I don't even say that's awesome. That's great.

93 00:13:15.240 --> 00:13:25.680 jduke: So that was my thought because from my vantage point, that's all I saw it was years later, before I even had the thought, what would have been like to have gotten up and

94 00:13:26.130 --> 00:13:38.610 jduke: Being taken from your school and your community, put on a bus drive to suburbia get off the bus so you can join who the white folks. Why, because

95 00:13:38.820 --> 00:13:46.950 jduke: They have better schools, maybe more money better textbooks. I don't know. That was, you know, the idea of integrating I never saw it from the perspective

96 00:13:47.340 --> 00:13:56.940 jduke: Of my black friends. I only. So yeah, that's great that you're coming into my world. I didn't. There was no hatred. But what there was, was a prejudice, because I only saw it.

97 00:13:57.540 --> 00:14:03.810 jduke: From my view. I never saw the hurt or the wonderment of the confusion as if, what if somebody had taken me from my home.

98 00:14:04.200 --> 00:14:09.510 jduke: And say, I'm going to bless you across town to go somewhere else away from your friends and or whatever it may be.

99 00:14:09.750 --> 00:14:16.860 jduke: And that's kind of what I've had to do during this time. And that's, you know, that's what sport does sport when you're around a group of people and you spend all this time together.

100 00:14:17.430 --> 00:14:24.330 jduke: Better at something man, probably the most powerful thing that takes place outside of skill development is how do we get along.

101 00:14:24.810 --> 00:14:34.830 jduke: We all have different backgrounds. We come from different just different areas of our lives. But somehow, if we can create a cohesive nature. We know what the research says performance goes up.

102 00:14:35.520 --> 00:14:42.840 jduke: So great coaches have to know how to create a team cohesion, a sense of cohesive and we love in sport.

103 00:14:43.350 --> 00:14:50.070 jduke: Integrate, you know, I just, you know, here I am in Florida, and of course I watched you know and watching you know this last year and the chiefs, when the big one and then

104 00:14:50.310 --> 00:14:56.190 jduke: A few years ago in the royals when I watched the whole city just you know rally around and I just smile.

105 00:14:56.520 --> 00:15:07.140 jduke: Because that same thing takes place, whether you're in New England, you know, I was a dolphin fan. I was in early high school and and oftentimes that great 72 seas and, you know, to me there's no greater team and the history of

106 00:15:07.770 --> 00:15:17.910 jduke: The MIAMI DOLPHINS of the 72 things. I don't know if they are, but I just remember the pride that we had in the community. And it's a beautiful thing. So I think when we do gather

107 00:15:18.300 --> 00:15:26.670 jduke: And we do listen and we do rally around something has a good cause. It can just be really good. But the first thing I had to do is look inside myself and say, okay, what prejudice, do I bring

108 00:15:26.940 --> 00:15:35.580 jduke: Same thing inside of a locker room. WHAT PREJUDICE do I bring in as a coach, what are you going to do about it. That's the beauty spot when people often say sports a microcosm of life.

109 00:15:36.300 --> 00:15:47.790 jduke: Sometimes that can be overused. But I think in this case. It can't be. I think it may be under us. It is a microcosm of life, of which we can really deal with bigger issues by just how we try to become a better baseball team.

110 00:15:49.110 --> 00:16:09.630 Joel Goldberg: Yeah, I have a couple thoughts as I'm listening to one is that in terms of beauty of sports and and i think about and certainly most of the people that will be listening to this, do not have kids who are on track to be in the NBA, or the NHL or and I'll be or NFL or MLS

111 00:16:10.710 --> 00:16:16.440 Joel Goldberg: And not all of them have kids, are we, everybody's at different stages. But what I'm reminded about often.

112 00:16:16.890 --> 00:16:28.050 Joel Goldberg: If you do have kids that are playing sports or relatives or whatever it is, is the importance of them being involved in that, or being involved in theatre or chorus or whatever it is. My daughter's on that side of things.

113 00:16:28.590 --> 00:16:39.120 Joel Goldberg: Right, because the lessons that they will learn and take away from that the longer they're in, it will apply to life. Later on, to me, that's the greatest gift, along with the memories of what they'll have in terms of sport.

114 00:16:39.630 --> 00:16:45.210 Joel Goldberg: And and why I so often say that sports is such and you know this as well as anyone such a great teacher for life.

115 00:16:45.660 --> 00:16:55.320 Joel Goldberg: Because of all the elements of teamwork and communication and hopefully diversity and all that. It translates later on in life. I was the first thought I had in the second one.

116 00:16:56.070 --> 00:17:02.370 Joel Goldberg: I recently saw a post from a friend of mine here in Kansas City, who said something about living in a I don't remember where I

117 00:17:03.030 --> 00:17:11.670 Joel Goldberg: Grew up in Chicago and she was in diversity. She was young, you know, diverse school plenty of black kids white kids and her family picked up and moved to Tulsa.

118 00:17:12.330 --> 00:17:16.590 Joel Goldberg: And she posted on Facebook or her perspective and and for, you know,

119 00:17:17.580 --> 00:17:22.560 Joel Goldberg: Parents job or something like that. And she shows up at school. The first day. She might have been seven, eight years old. I don't remember.

120 00:17:23.040 --> 00:17:33.930 Joel Goldberg: And comes home and tells her mama. There are a bunch of kids that were sick today. So what do you mean how do you know they're a bunch of kids sick. And she said, well, they're just not everybody was there and her perception was she only saw white kids.

121 00:17:34.080 --> 00:17:35.400 Joel Goldberg: And where was everyone else.

122 00:17:35.490 --> 00:17:44.610 Joel Goldberg: So that's so interesting in a reminder to how to how much we can be taught at that young age. I mean, that again is ultimately

123 00:17:45.060 --> 00:18:00.900 Joel Goldberg: Coaching because you have all these eyeballs on you. You have this ability to communicate. Which leads me to the communication question. I actually want to get into some of your background too but but let's just talk communication, real quick, and what is it about coaches.

124 00:18:01.920 --> 00:18:16.140 Joel Goldberg: That, well, by the way, not all coaches are great communicators. Right. But what what makes it so imperative to be a good communicator and how, what are your thoughts on communication, I guess, what were your styles as a coach. Yeah.

125 00:18:16.440 --> 00:18:20.790 jduke: That's a great question because people get people get personalities.

126 00:18:21.210 --> 00:18:29.310 jduke: Or, you know, introvert, extrovert, they get that mixed up sometimes with what is good, what is bad. So, you know, you know, coaches, you know, very extroverted and very, you know,

127 00:18:30.000 --> 00:18:38.700 jduke: You know, just kind of not afraid to share the emotions off the cuff, we think, sometimes they're better when things go on. Sometimes when somebody's quiet, we think, maybe they're not a good communicator.

128 00:18:39.030 --> 00:18:47.310 jduke: And that's kind of it. It's really a misaligned, because it's not so much about your personality. It's about how you define playing. So let's look at the

129 00:18:48.270 --> 00:18:56.580 jduke: Let's look at five things have a healthy community and think about sport. When I did it. So when people, you know, the question has really

130 00:18:56.940 --> 00:19:05.940 jduke: brought to the forefront and the last word wire 50 million kids playing sport why it's seven years of age nine out of 10 kids are drawn to a sporting wire moms and dads citing kids up

131 00:19:06.630 --> 00:19:18.540 jduke: You know, at seven years of age to play a sport. The sport team and then whatever that progresses. We know there's five things that the platform of sport teaches the platform. So I just want to make sure we understand that word versus

132 00:19:19.140 --> 00:19:26.790 jduke: Or so we know five things one commitment. So commitment, the idea that I'm going to commit to something which means

133 00:19:27.390 --> 00:19:35.610 jduke: I'm pushing something else aside to make this a focus now good thanks to think about the contrast to our culture today commitment.

134 00:19:36.240 --> 00:19:44.400 jduke: Commitment. We live in a culture day. It says if I don't like him. I'm out I'm changing I'm done with sport, but you know, you got to be committed second word perseverance.

135 00:19:44.730 --> 00:19:47.970 jduke: Perseverance means, what do you do when you have obstacles.

136 00:19:48.360 --> 00:19:55.980 jduke: So you know when when obstacles face you, what do you do well. Every parent wants their kids to learn things about how to persevere, how to go over them under him around them.

137 00:19:56.250 --> 00:20:01.320 jduke: Not how to turn and run from because in sport. You just can't say I quit. Just because you're down

138 00:20:02.100 --> 00:20:14.310 jduke: You know, three runs in the last minute, you can't. So persevere commitment. The third word team, or excuse me, discipline, discipline. I love that word discipline, discipline, a root word means what a disciple to follow away.

139 00:20:14.790 --> 00:20:22.380 jduke: Somebody's got to say this is the way we this is the way we go. And so, man. You like that. So we're just sometimes we've made that a

140 00:20:22.680 --> 00:20:26.070 jduke: Punishment word and the fourth word is team less of me.

141 00:20:26.190 --> 00:20:37.530 jduke: More of we somehow, I've got to learn to take the gifts that I have and to help others around me get better because when we all get better and I help others get better somehow the team gets better. That's a conclusive.

142 00:20:38.040 --> 00:20:42.300 jduke: In research conclusion in the, in the last word in a capitalist society winning and losing

143 00:20:42.630 --> 00:20:48.720 jduke: We have scoreboards and I think we need to teach kids. What does it mean to win. And there's a lot of good things went, but maybe just as important

144 00:20:49.260 --> 00:20:56.850 jduke: How do you deal with losing. So what do you do. So think about those words commitment perseverance discipline team and you think about winning and losing

145 00:20:57.390 --> 00:21:06.600 jduke: Those are five words. But here's the point. This is it took me the longest time to understand this is what drew me to support those five things. I love being involved in those five things

146 00:21:07.140 --> 00:21:24.510 jduke: But those words are empty signifiers unless somebody defines those because think about it. What did I just defined commitment perseverance discipline team when I just defined a very strong terrorist organization.

147 00:21:25.590 --> 00:21:29.400 jduke: I think about a strong terrorist organization. Are they committed

148 00:21:30.570 --> 00:21:39.450 jduke: Do they persevere. Have they are they disciplined, have they created a team. And have they define what a win is

149 00:21:40.110 --> 00:21:49.320 jduke: See those words up sport will teach those words, they will put those words out for everybody learn how those words are defined

150 00:21:49.890 --> 00:21:51.690 jduke: Is by this person coach Coach

151 00:21:52.080 --> 00:22:04.080 jduke: So a great coach knows how to what how to create a sense of commitment and sets. Here's how we're going to do things until you set these border know if you don't do this. You can't be on this team if you don't make it

152 00:22:04.260 --> 00:22:11.880 jduke: If you don't commit to the weight room. If you don't, so commitment and perseverance. This idea that we will have challenges and we're going to figure out how to get through.

153 00:22:12.450 --> 00:22:17.880 jduke: And discipline. This is the way these are the this is the procedure of how we get to this goal that we have

154 00:22:18.210 --> 00:22:28.350 jduke: And obviously, this idea of team, being able to serve one another, doing strategies that allow us to see the beauty of helping others when we learn to help others. We help ourselves. We know that

155 00:22:28.890 --> 00:22:32.190 jduke: And we'd be all become better and then defining how to win and how to deal with the loss.

156 00:22:32.400 --> 00:22:44.340 jduke: So a coach, just by who they are, no matter if you're the coach of a eight year old girls softball table, whether you're the head coach of the cheese or the royals you are going to define those five words just

157 00:22:44.730 --> 00:22:50.220 jduke: By who you are as you coach and you can have an extroverted personality or an introverted personality.

158 00:22:50.700 --> 00:22:57.960 jduke: But that's the power of the coach. That's why the research says one coach will impact more people in one year than the average person doesn't a lifetime.

159 00:22:58.500 --> 00:23:02.880 jduke: I because kids are coming to sport in a discretionary basis. I want to be a part of something

160 00:23:03.420 --> 00:23:14.820 jduke: And then who becomes the focus this person called coach. And by the way, once your coat coat. You go sign up, you can go. You can go sign up for the rec department this Saturday and start maybe not because we're social distancing but in the future.

161 00:23:15.030 --> 00:23:22.770 jduke: And you've been coaching a young soccer team and I promise you, when those parents show up that first day knows kids. You already got the title, a coach.

162 00:23:23.400 --> 00:23:28.230 jduke: And they're gonna listen everything you say when we practice how long we're going to hear are already defining those words.

163 00:23:28.530 --> 00:23:37.560 jduke: Because we're coming to sport and discretionary basis. So that was kind of a long answer, but that communication is based around coaches who can define those five words well

164 00:23:37.890 --> 00:23:46.890 jduke: And those are the coaches that we love to follow because they do those well and we know the end result a performance. And this is kind of the carrot. The performance goes up.

165 00:23:47.460 --> 00:23:53.970 jduke: Doesn't mean you're always going to win the championship. You know, you can play a team that's bigger, better and faster than you, there's a really good chance they're still going to beat you.

166 00:23:54.240 --> 00:23:58.980 jduke: But as far as their performance based goes when you define those five words well

167 00:23:59.760 --> 00:24:07.080 jduke: And resources conclusive kids will run through the wall for you so you get a performance based you get the extra you get the what you want.

168 00:24:07.590 --> 00:24:11.340 jduke: But in the midst of that you are teaching valuable lessons.

169 00:24:11.550 --> 00:24:19.350 jduke: That will be remembered forever. That's why I say people say, what do you do most MSA while I'm in coaches ministry. I'm careful when I say that because people think, oh, it must be a religious organization.

170 00:24:19.590 --> 00:24:29.580 jduke: Know coaches Ministry, Ministry is defined as engaging in the needs of others, the need and what does a healthy culture, need we need to be able to find

171 00:24:29.940 --> 00:24:42.810 jduke: What it means to be committed well to persevere through tough times to be disciplined to be able to understand what it means to love and serve others and define what a win and losses in your life. It's okay to define wins and losses and how you deal with them.

172 00:24:42.990 --> 00:24:43.710 jduke: Long answer.

173 00:24:44.010 --> 00:24:46.740 jduke: But that's 20 years of research wrapped up in about 10 minutes

174 00:24:47.070 --> 00:24:54.690 Joel Goldberg: No, that's not bad at all. But I want to follow up on on one thing. So what you're describing that that first day you walk in, as coach it

175 00:24:55.020 --> 00:25:00.330 Joel Goldberg: It takes me back to a conversation I had with the Kansas City Royals new manager Mike Mangini on

176 00:25:00.840 --> 00:25:08.430 Joel Goldberg: On February in February, he said, and he'd been hired in November 1 manager new manager, they've had in 10 years and he said that

177 00:25:08.970 --> 00:25:16.980 Joel Goldberg: He had been thinking about that opening speech for months that that first day where he had the group gathered and he had

178 00:25:17.430 --> 00:25:22.890 Joel Goldberg: traveled around the country during the offseason and flown the places like North Carolina and Texas and

179 00:25:23.340 --> 00:25:30.900 Joel Goldberg: Florida, just to have coffee with some of his guys and then fly back home and and i was saying, you know, boy, you're, you're already on your way. He said, I'm

180 00:25:31.710 --> 00:25:37.770 Joel Goldberg: I haven't earned anything yet. He said I, they'll see through the BS is essentially what he said.

181 00:25:38.100 --> 00:25:47.670 Joel Goldberg: Yeah. So my question regarding that. And I think he's off to a brilliant START, and THIS is saying saying this without the season, having even now started. Who would have ever thought but

182 00:25:48.510 --> 00:25:55.680 Joel Goldberg: When you look at that and and what you're describing that could just as easily described the CEO or the team leader of any company.

183 00:25:56.160 --> 00:26:02.520 Joel Goldberg: And and so, you know, day one, there's usually going to be that mix of optimism from the player or the employee.

184 00:26:02.880 --> 00:26:11.580 Joel Goldberg: That mix of optimism new voice and a little bit of that guarded. Okay, what are we dealing with here. And then of course you here. So all I have an open door policy, you can come in anytime

185 00:26:11.820 --> 00:26:22.380 Joel Goldberg: How does one in that role that is say, Hey, your coach everything that you just talked about, how do they maintain or build off of that momentum from day one.

186 00:26:22.920 --> 00:26:28.560 jduke: I know I wish we had time. That's what the 3D Institute about is about a commercial for 3D answer that says

187 00:26:28.920 --> 00:26:35.820 jduke: That's what we develop. So when we would face when we started dealing with coaches around the country because we know they have this influence and impact.

188 00:26:36.180 --> 00:26:53.220 jduke: Here's what you will hear you will never hear a baseball coach say I don't like baseball anymore. But what you will hear him say is I'm tired of the over bearing parents or I'm tired of the not involve parents or I'm, I'm tired of the entitled kid.

189 00:26:53.970 --> 00:26:58.380 jduke: See what they're going to are the relational issues of today's culture.

190 00:26:59.400 --> 00:27:06.090 jduke: They want to coach baseball because they love baseball. They played baseball, they know a lot of good things that came out of it when they played so now they want to be a part of it.

191 00:27:06.510 --> 00:27:10.680 jduke: But what they're having to do with when a when people come together.

192 00:27:11.130 --> 00:27:22.470 jduke: In order to be a part of something you bring what the people and whatever the issues that the people are dealing with coaches most time are very ill equipped, not because they don't want to be. There's just not a formal

193 00:27:22.800 --> 00:27:28.170 jduke: Training for coaches most coaches coach because I played the game and just gonna continue hanging around the game.

194 00:27:28.620 --> 00:27:36.600 jduke: And so these issues are what we call second dimension strategies and strategies are things that you can do that deal with real life issues.

195 00:27:36.810 --> 00:27:43.380 jduke: Of dealing with the people a sport. That's usually the obviously the players, the parents, administrators, and then the third dimension is this

196 00:27:44.130 --> 00:27:53.160 jduke: Wow, what I say. And more importantly, who I am really does make a difference in the lives of others. That's that third dimension. That's that deep question.

197 00:27:53.610 --> 00:28:02.280 jduke: Maybe I do that purpose. Maybe my purpose in life. Yeah, I like you know and we'll take Cagney to do my job well. But maybe one of my purpose in life is to coach this 10 year old.

198 00:28:02.730 --> 00:28:10.410 jduke: Basketball team to be this JV coach. That's what I had to go through. So I had to realize what did I love coaching in my 20s, that I left when I was in my 30s.

199 00:28:10.650 --> 00:28:19.260 jduke: Because I, you know, somebody said, you can make more money, do some other stuff. Nothing wrong with that. And what was I missing. I didn't realize the influence and impact. I had in the lives of others.

200 00:28:20.520 --> 00:28:31.800 jduke: Y'all can't see this, because we're not on a live, you know, video, but right behind my shoulder is a plaque this plaque. It was this was, I'm going to read it to you this, this was still my most things

201 00:28:33.270 --> 00:28:42.930 jduke: It's a this is I will tell you this is 1977 I want you to listen. This coach Jeff do. Now this is a from a JV football.

202 00:28:43.590 --> 00:28:49.980 jduke: And appreciation for your dedication, understanding that taught us to play football work, but more importantly taught us to win at life.

203 00:28:50.730 --> 00:29:00.930 jduke: And made us understand what a real man is all about. This is on a plaque that was given to me in 1977 for a JV football coach. I did not realize till years later.

204 00:29:01.950 --> 00:29:02.250 jduke: That

205 00:29:03.300 --> 00:29:09.060 jduke: That plaques always been on my wall JV football coach. Why, because I look back and realize

206 00:29:09.540 --> 00:29:20.160 jduke: I don't remember a lot, but the things I did has made the impact on a bunch of kids are now grandparents, and I still see them periodically, they say we learn more about Donna

207 00:29:20.490 --> 00:29:29.160 jduke: In that one year that you coach something. Oh, I'm 22 years old. I'm coaching JV I did what because I couldn't define it, it happened.

208 00:29:29.820 --> 00:29:32.850 jduke: Because I had some, you know, substantial training and my whole life.

209 00:29:33.090 --> 00:29:44.340 jduke: But years later, I went, Wow. And so I asked him what do, what did you learn. And usually what comes out of that is one of those five components or something that they've learned in their life is either a father or husband or a business leader.

210 00:29:44.820 --> 00:29:55.980 jduke: And so a 40 oh no wonder I'm miserable. I miss what I did when I was a JV back and I just had to define it, and that third dimension is your y. So, that time that we all need to take in our lives and

211 00:29:56.340 --> 00:30:03.810 jduke: Sometimes we just need to stop and ask ourselves, why do we do it, do not. What do we do when do we do it or how would you I could always say that. But why do we do it.

212 00:30:04.410 --> 00:30:09.060 jduke: And I tell you the good has come out of this virus and pandemic is this made a lot of a stop.

213 00:30:09.390 --> 00:30:24.000 jduke: Because a lot of us are losing jobs were on furlough we're asking deeper questions and we're say okay, why am I, why am I chasing all this. And usually what happens when you take a timeout. Is that good things usually come out of the back end, they might hurt. They might have some discomfort.

214 00:30:24.450 --> 00:30:29.010 jduke: But sometimes you go, you know what I want to make some changes in my life. I really do want to do something.

215 00:30:29.040 --> 00:30:29.910 jduke: Different more

216 00:30:30.000 --> 00:30:31.350 jduke: That really maybe affects others for

217 00:30:31.350 --> 00:30:31.770 jduke: The good

218 00:30:32.100 --> 00:30:36.240 jduke: Or maybe you just come out and you go, I love what I did and I miss it.

219 00:30:36.510 --> 00:30:48.210 jduke: And now you begin to define what is it that you miss one of my son's is furloughed from Disney right now. And I know Disney always sounds like the pixie dust place, he's not he's in what I call central shops. I mean, he's painting and

220 00:30:48.510 --> 00:30:54.330 jduke: fixing all the right you know he's doing all that kind of stuff. And, and, and he was kind of little frustrated with his job a little bit

221 00:30:54.570 --> 00:31:01.020 jduke: But he's been out of a job now for almost two months for load he's ready to go back and I asked me today. I said, Son, why you selected to go back as it did.

222 00:31:01.530 --> 00:31:08.730 jduke: I miss being with my people. I said, define your people and all of a sudden he started telling me about people in his shop.

223 00:31:09.300 --> 00:31:16.080 jduke: The different backgrounds and who they are and the conversations they had over coffee when they went to lunch together. He says, I never understood the value of that.

224 00:31:16.650 --> 00:31:24.300 jduke: I just didn't work. But since now that I don't have that communication that communal. He says, I'm in desperate need food.

225 00:31:24.720 --> 00:31:32.160 jduke: So he'll go back doing the same job he did, but this time it's going to give him a real sense of encouragement excited to go back

226 00:31:32.460 --> 00:31:43.770 jduke: I think that's a beautiful thing. We all need to do that. I probably me I had to lose a job at 40 before I asked that question, but that's okay because now I'm old and I will open till till I can't walk anymore.

227 00:31:44.100 --> 00:31:49.080 jduke: I'm going to be an assistant high school offensive coordinator. I just love being around the game.

228 00:31:49.770 --> 00:31:58.710 Joel Goldberg: Yeah, and I alluded to it when we started, and I knew in the best of ways that this conversation would go in all kinds of directions, which I love it. That's kind of the way my brain works anyway.

229 00:31:59.340 --> 00:32:02.520 Joel Goldberg: But there's so many things that we can we can focus on

230 00:32:02.940 --> 00:32:15.360 Joel Goldberg: And I mean, truthfully, we could just do a whole show on your background. I mean, I think anybody that coached at a level with a bobby Bowden in a Florida State has some stories and some experiences, you know, in front of

231 00:32:16.050 --> 00:32:24.150 Joel Goldberg: 8090 hundred thousand people every Saturday, that that many of us don't have. But you, you had the college coaching background and then

232 00:32:24.660 --> 00:32:44.760 Joel Goldberg: And then suddenly, maybe not suddenly you're you're in a totally different world. And here you are today. Now, Dr. Duke, PhD, University of Central Florida. But along the way. There was a a stop through like I should really call that Disney. Tell me how you ended up involved with Disney.

233 00:32:45.420 --> 00:32:55.560 jduke: Well, you know, when you coach at the college level you recruit and and I work for just the best recruiter in the whole world. Bobby bound, and I don't mean that because he was a salesman is because he was real.

234 00:32:56.010 --> 00:32:59.250 jduke: There was something about when you got him in front of a mom or dad have a

235 00:32:59.700 --> 00:33:09.060 jduke: Perspective athlete that they wanted their, their one of their kid to be around this guy. It was real. He didn't. He wasn't a fake he thing and that's what I realized he knew his calling early in life.

236 00:33:09.750 --> 00:33:17.790 jduke: And so when he went and shared does it apply to Florida State of what a sales job. It was a we really want your kid to be here. We want to be a part of something great something

237 00:33:18.090 --> 00:33:27.120 jduke: A family. And so I saw it, but I was young and I couldn't define it. And so because I could recruit. Well, I got pulled away in Disney was getting red Disney

238 00:33:27.780 --> 00:33:31.470 jduke: I should say Disney World here in Central Disney's a giant corporations, we

239 00:33:31.980 --> 00:33:39.360 jduke: Wrote here in Central Florida 20 something years ago knew what was getting ready to happen and club and travel ball sport. They were the first private organization.

240 00:33:39.660 --> 00:33:44.100 jduke: That basically built sport tourism inside of their own domain.

241 00:33:44.370 --> 00:33:56.250 jduke: And now we know that every town every city everybody do understand sport tourism, the economic impact of sport and what it can do when you have events and that new money that comes in and all the stuff that comes out up in Florida. That's a huge business.

242 00:33:56.580 --> 00:33:59.580 jduke: Because Robin see we're our number one industry is tourism.

243 00:33:59.880 --> 00:34:10.350 jduke: Disney do that they build a big Sports Complex. I'm going to gain. My name is that you'll be great at helping us do this. And next thing I know, I'm recruited I'm going down to Disney I'm moving from Tallahassee down to Central Florida. And it was

244 00:34:11.190 --> 00:34:17.820 jduke: It was interesting deal only thing on the playlist this place called sports guy didn't know how to name it just called sports complex

245 00:34:18.060 --> 00:34:24.210 jduke: And and i was a consultant brought in and I'll never forget it. So we're going to build this place and moms and dads are gonna come from everywhere.

246 00:34:24.450 --> 00:34:33.150 jduke: To bring their kids. Of course it's a business decision, the idea, they're going to come. But if they come, they've got, you know, they want them to stay on Disney property in Disney hotels are affiliated hotels.

247 00:34:33.480 --> 00:34:42.990 jduke: And go to the parks, you know, Disney World is about theme parks. That's their core business. And so they use the economic impact of sport and my job was to bring in big 19

248 00:34:43.440 --> 00:35:00.570 jduke: To give the place and or of wow, this is a big time place to come. So, but the business was based around AAU basketball AAU track and field dance cheer Pop Warner and and i had i moved down and bottom line is within a year and a half of doing this. I'm still just

249 00:35:01.680 --> 00:35:07.380 jduke: Just frustrated and miserable making more money I'm traveling internationally, it looks like it looks good from the outside.

250 00:35:07.740 --> 00:35:15.270 jduke: And I couldn't understand it but at 40 years of age. One of the major contracts were dealing with a very large Olympic organization was going to do their warm weather training here.

251 00:35:16.020 --> 00:35:24.000 jduke: from Great Britain that deals with me and the people that come here for tours many ways we had a contract to work with their Olympic team for 12 years to do the warm weather term of the contract for it.

252 00:35:24.630 --> 00:35:28.560 jduke: It just fell through how to do with the Olympic rings and all that, that Disney was going to be able to

253 00:35:29.130 --> 00:35:36.270 jduke: Use in Great Britain, but anyway. Bottom line is the contract fell through. I'm a consultant rod into do bring these things in

254 00:35:36.960 --> 00:35:48.630 jduke: And obviously I didn't bring it in and lost my job, or I wasn't renewed and it was during that time that I had my forced forced timeout forced timeout and that was in that time that I go

255 00:35:49.170 --> 00:35:58.080 jduke: What am I doing, what am I doing, and while I was led lost a job live in a community. We're building a new high school. And that's a very simple story and

256 00:35:58.590 --> 00:36:07.110 jduke: Press will call me today. You've coached football over this day recruited help us hire new coach, would you be willing to do so. And I'll never forget the question he asked Joyce's, do you have time

257 00:36:08.010 --> 00:36:20.520 jduke: Do you have time to help us find a new high high school football coach. If you'd asked me two weeks earlier, I probably said no, maybe Thursday from two to three because my calendar was jam, but for the first time I was taking a real time I had time and

258 00:36:21.390 --> 00:36:29.010 jduke: And I did and I re engaged with a guy that I had known because I was bringing in coaches to go to the interview and this guy got the job.

259 00:36:29.340 --> 00:36:39.570 jduke: And I'll never forget he he applied for the job. And his question when I talked to him. I asked him how he's doing so I'm not doing too good. He said, I really got out of coaching. Two years ago I got, I got it.

260 00:36:40.110 --> 00:36:49.020 jduke: Got to a major divorce and so my plan for this job because I don't know. I'm just kind of looking for that. Next thing I could win football games. He said he bought a bunch of game state championships.

261 00:36:49.530 --> 00:36:52.800 jduke: He's but he told me, said, Jeff, I ever do this job. Again, I want to do it right.

262 00:36:53.340 --> 00:37:02.700 jduke: And so I met with them a tool, guys, you know, I was 40 he was 52 old guys talked about what it means to do it right. So I put them into final he gets the job and his first hire. He was me.

263 00:37:03.090 --> 00:37:10.830 jduke: So at 40 years of age. I'm not assist in high school football coach at a school in Central Florida, which is basically the same job I was doing when I was 22

264 00:37:11.760 --> 00:37:16.020 jduke: But now there was a major difference we began to ask why, why do we do what we do.

265 00:37:16.380 --> 00:37:24.690 jduke: And so we did. And we just began to change things. And I just saw the beauty of sport. When you begin to ask the deeper questions why you do what you do you really find out some things sometimes, it hurts.

266 00:37:24.750 --> 00:37:32.010 jduke: I know a lot of things about yourself. But what I'm really fun. That's what I love doing what I love engaging in and then you look for a job or a career.

267 00:37:32.430 --> 00:37:41.880 jduke: That allows you to what to use the gifts that you have, there's no perfect job or gift, but when you ask the why. Now we live in such a good country that now we can kind of pick

268 00:37:42.360 --> 00:37:52.170 jduke: Deals to go through. And so, you know, that's what I did. And so it was during that time that I got re engaged with what I did and I was so excited about it. That's when I went back started working on my doctorate degree and just

269 00:37:52.380 --> 00:37:58.110 jduke: Because I really want to look at why is this drawing sports so real and are there more coaches that really enjoy

270 00:37:58.350 --> 00:38:07.020 jduke: The gauging of the needs of people around them while they're good ball coaches, because there is a scoreboard in the stadium, you're going to be judged by that. That's okay. I don't want to ever less than that.

271 00:38:07.500 --> 00:38:15.870 jduke: But we realize the impact so much greater. And it was during that time with that for about seven years and University of Central Florida comes along and says, you know, we got kids want to

272 00:38:16.170 --> 00:38:20.160 jduke: They want to coach. How do you get you get into coaching and nobody really ever asked that.

273 00:38:20.640 --> 00:38:26.370 jduke: How do you get into coaching as a profession you know you most times you get a degree in something that hopefully lead you to a career.

274 00:38:26.640 --> 00:38:32.190 jduke: There were very few degrees that you could actually go it's okay if you want to be a coach of a sport, whatever that may be. And that's what we did.

275 00:38:32.580 --> 00:38:40.890 jduke: And I developed now 15 years later, I'm doing that. And I just, I'm so thankful I get to go to work every day. I'm a public educator, so you know how much money I'm making I'm killing it man.

276 00:38:42.180 --> 00:38:46.560 jduke: It was, I get to work with that next generation. You know who I see every time I teach a class in the coaching.

277 00:38:46.620 --> 00:38:57.810 jduke: Coaching track. I see a bunch of me's I see a bunch of Jeff Duke sitting out there 2021 22 that I wish somebody had said, Hey, let's really talk about this. Do you really want to do this and why do you want to do it.

278 00:38:58.170 --> 00:39:05.040 jduke: So that's the beauty. So the 3D Institute's come out of that things just taken off and I love teaching. But the most important thing. I'm still coaching.

279 00:39:06.420 --> 00:39:13.140 jduke: And that's the beauty of what we do. But I had to have that timeout Disney has been a great was great. They do. And listen, by the way.

280 00:39:13.440 --> 00:39:21.360 jduke: Not through the pin down because I had to close down. But did you know during the last recession, the big recession that we had Disney sports had its best years

281 00:39:21.930 --> 00:39:29.220 jduke: Moms and dads are not going to deny their kids being a national cheer dance championship the AAU basketball tournament. The, you name it.

282 00:39:29.550 --> 00:39:39.630 jduke: They were going to come because why there is such a drawl now to be a part of something greater than yourself. And so when a culture begins to kind of lose that essence and I don't want to get into

283 00:39:39.990 --> 00:39:47.550 jduke: The negativity of maybe some things are going on within the structure of our foundation of our country. But when they begin to lose some of that we're desperate for it.

284 00:39:47.940 --> 00:39:56.640 jduke: And I think you hit it right on the head. We had a big issue come up with this, with this murder and looking at racism and people said what we got to get together.

285 00:39:57.270 --> 00:40:05.250 jduke: You know so often I went to one of the marches in our town protests in our town in we didn't do anything. We just marched from one place to the other.

286 00:40:05.610 --> 00:40:12.630 jduke: But it was in that community of being together for a common cause that we began to see more of a unified spirit.

287 00:40:13.020 --> 00:40:25.620 jduke: And sport is just a micron. That's what I was missing. So I, my goal is to help young coaches young people, or even if you're just maybe volunteering as a coach, realize that maybe maybe this can be an outflow of something just greater than the sport itself.

288 00:40:27.420 --> 00:40:39.030 Joel Goldberg: Great perspective. And yet, tying it all together. So let me get into my baseball fan questions three baseball themed questions, although they just apply to life.

289 00:40:39.510 --> 00:40:48.330 Joel Goldberg: told you about these Professionally speaking now you've done a lot in your long career and it doesn't have to be a specific moment. What's the biggest home run. You've hit

290 00:40:49.290 --> 00:41:02.130 jduke: Vegas home run. I've ever hit was it's a, it's a, it was when we through this brokenness that we put together this 3D framework. It was an internal journey.

291 00:41:02.970 --> 00:41:11.790 jduke: And then other people taking this thing and I'm still amazed when I get up and people are using this 3D platform to take an internal look at where sport is

292 00:41:12.120 --> 00:41:20.400 jduke: And maybe what I do. I'm still overwhelmed by that because I did not do. I didn't do the research. By the way, I collected the research. I'm not a researcher. I'm a coach.

293 00:41:20.760 --> 00:41:22.980 jduke: You know, it's funny. I teach at the university.

294 00:41:23.430 --> 00:41:29.940 jduke: And coaches, you know, they'll coaches or go to a clinic coaches or they're all great clinic. Dude, you know, they want to go to a clinic, they want to learn a nugget.

295 00:41:30.210 --> 00:41:33.810 jduke: That go to this coaching clinic. They take one thing that somebody else does well.

296 00:41:34.140 --> 00:41:38.340 jduke: And they bring it back and they put it in there. There are so what we did. Here's the drill we're going to do.

297 00:41:38.490 --> 00:41:46.230 jduke: It's interesting, a coach and you go somewhere out to take something that someone else is doing good or better. And then you bring it back and you make a journal, you name it, your own little thing.

298 00:41:46.650 --> 00:41:56.790 jduke: It's funny, I teach at the university. We call that plagiarism. You get kicked out of school fat, but in coaching. It's very much and so I the home run of my life was or

299 00:41:57.240 --> 00:42:03.600 jduke: It's just watching how this 3D thing has taken away beyond me. Just a team of people in it you know get

300 00:42:04.350 --> 00:42:09.720 jduke: The greatest intrinsic value is to get up and get an email or something from a coach who says, you know,

301 00:42:10.050 --> 00:42:22.380 jduke: Hey, I've been on this journey I rediscovered or maybe discover for the first time I call in my life. Let me tell you what's happening. And then they share the beauty of either relationships around them, or things they do things they see well

302 00:42:22.860 --> 00:42:30.060 jduke: And that's what we need in our culture right now. We need people to profess things that are doing well and beautiful and excellent things that are good because that draws people together.

303 00:42:30.570 --> 00:42:44.310 jduke: I've told my wife this morning that it overwhelms me at my age realize there's a 28 year old a 31 year old out there that's kind of find their why in life. There's nothing greater when you get to my age, then seeing the next generation do it better than you.

304 00:42:46.560 --> 00:42:57.210 Joel Goldberg: Yeah. I couldn't agree more. I'm starting to see that with with everything that I'm doing now to it because that you know the kids keep getting younger and we keep getting older, that'll that'll never change that.

305 00:42:57.570 --> 00:42:59.040 jduke: Starting in sports. Yeah.

306 00:42:59.070 --> 00:43:05.880 jduke: No question. We moved. We moved from doing what we do into more of a sage or mentor and if you do, you'll have fulfillment. If you don't

307 00:43:06.390 --> 00:43:13.380 jduke: You know, loneliness and age aging and loneliness is very real. Because you feel like you've lost. You know how many people that know like they've lost their place.

308 00:43:13.620 --> 00:43:22.260 jduke: Because their value is and what they do. Then they retire and they no longer do that, you know, there's an old saying that we talked about 3D. It says if what you do is who you are.

309 00:43:22.740 --> 00:43:31.830 jduke: And when you lose what you do, you'll find out who you really are. And boy, I live that. And so, you know, we should never retire.

310 00:43:32.580 --> 00:43:43.890 jduke: I like the word we should redeploy a calling in your life doesn't change you basis and do it a different way. You may do it for different we may not do it at the big time workplace, you may be doing it just, you know, locally in your local community.

311 00:43:45.060 --> 00:43:56.250 Joel Goldberg: What's the biggest swing and miss. You've taken most, most of the good ones have had many swings and misses. This is usually a tougher one to find because not because there isn't one because there's so many

312 00:43:56.610 --> 00:43:59.550 Joel Goldberg: I am guessing that will be the case. You give me one.

313 00:44:00.000 --> 00:44:02.430 Joel Goldberg: Or you just totally struck out but you learn from it.

314 00:44:02.790 --> 00:44:15.600 jduke: Yeah. And this gets very personal and I'll try not to get emotional in that is when I left. What I was doing coaching because people said you would be good at doing something else. So I allowed the extrinsic part of this culture, which is money.

315 00:44:16.920 --> 00:44:27.810 jduke: Ego and probably ego first and then followed by money. And there's nothing wrong with having a positive good ego and you're surely not enroll and making a lot of money. But when that becomes your driving force and

316 00:44:28.290 --> 00:44:30.690 jduke: That's when it was the hardest time I've been married 43 years

317 00:44:31.140 --> 00:44:39.630 jduke: And the hardest time of my life was when I actually left what I was doing to follow something else that I was making more money and had more positional power.

318 00:44:39.930 --> 00:44:47.430 jduke: And kept justifying to my wife, hey look, what I'm doing. I'm providing more. And I'll never forget. Joe when I lost my job. We

319 00:44:47.880 --> 00:44:52.920 jduke: Lost a contract were overseas. I was in London. I called home so you're not gonna believe this. I lost my job.

320 00:44:53.400 --> 00:45:00.300 jduke: And here's what my wife is when you know you're married. Well, when your wife will tell you exactly what you need to hear when you don't really want to hear it.

321 00:45:00.900 --> 00:45:08.160 jduke: And she said this, she said. You come on home. She goes, I want the guy that used to get up every morning love being a high school coach.

322 00:45:08.490 --> 00:45:17.430 jduke: I love. Now, when she said that I can go right to the spreadsheet that I make a business sense because you know you're looking at an economic impact of two different worlds.

323 00:45:18.000 --> 00:45:19.020 jduke: But I knew what she meant

324 00:45:19.560 --> 00:45:30.390 jduke: I knew what she meant you got to play and love what you did, because you affected others well in a positive way. And when you came home that made you a positive but yet you are tired, but you were just fun to be around because you love what you do.

325 00:45:30.720 --> 00:45:35.550 jduke: And when you love what you love is the greatest motivator. When you love what you do, you just love others better

326 00:45:36.120 --> 00:45:47.820 jduke: When you hate what you do or despise what you do your apathetic with what you do you usually that's kind of personalities and kind of bring home into your family environment. It wasn't bigness didn't order the time but looking back, it was the bigness

327 00:45:48.090 --> 00:45:56.700 Joel Goldberg: Yeah, and you're better for it. Now the final baseball themed question is the small ball question. It's to me the culture question. It's

328 00:45:57.300 --> 00:46:04.770 Joel Goldberg: The most interesting one to me of this of this trio questions that I asked what are the little things in your world.

329 00:46:05.340 --> 00:46:20.160 Joel Goldberg: That add up to the big things in baseball terms you don't hit the home run every single time, but often those singles and bonds and it runs can lead to scoring around the same way what small body. Yeah.

330 00:46:20.250 --> 00:46:25.950 jduke: It's a, it's a great question. You know, by the way, baseball, you guys want to hear this. You know, I'm a giant Dodger fan.

331 00:46:26.400 --> 00:46:36.060 jduke: People want to have you be a Dodger fan and live in Florida. My grandmother lived in Vero Beach, so be more than others without West for spring, you know, that was Dodger town was

332 00:46:36.150 --> 00:46:36.570 Joel Goldberg: Sure.

333 00:46:36.840 --> 00:46:48.360 jduke: So you grew up in just a big Dodger fan. My mom made me a hat. When I was young and I could buy in LA at Florida there just wasn't one of the time. So she made you know what the, you know, the hell with the a crossing the bottom of the hill.

334 00:46:48.690 --> 00:46:56.370 jduke: She made when I went to sleep with that thing. It was like, Oh, you guys are American League on national league. I guess we just have to hang in there for a while.

335 00:46:56.460 --> 00:47:08.610 jduke: Okay, yes. Okay. The joy I learned. I learned years ago joy is an emotion that you cannot create joy as a reaction or response.

336 00:47:09.240 --> 00:47:18.090 jduke: If I'm not joyful. And I don't mean that it's not about happy and always being smiley it's joy is a deep rooted motion joy when you do anything with joy.

337 00:47:18.420 --> 00:47:26.760 jduke: Research. It's very conclusive. It says that increases motivation increases confidence regulates intensity and gives you directed focus. Now think about that life. If you're motivated

338 00:47:27.960 --> 00:47:33.330 jduke: Golly, if you're the idea that you're confident you just believe that you can do what you can do.

339 00:47:33.750 --> 00:47:43.410 jduke: You're at the right tension level intensity and you have a focus. You might feel joy is a great motivator. And so when I don't have joy. The first thing I need to do stop and ask why.

340 00:47:43.860 --> 00:47:52.080 jduke: Don't look around and blame others because that's the easy thing to do. I don't have joy because of you. Because what you did what you said. And believe me, people affect you in a lot of ways.

341 00:47:52.590 --> 00:48:00.090 jduke: But when I don't have joy and joy is not my primary driver. The first thing I have to do is say why. And it's usually in a quiet time of

342 00:48:01.080 --> 00:48:10.110 jduke: Introspection but I usually realize what a joy was last because I allowed something to come into my life and that's where you really have to be decipher what you allow into your life.

343 00:48:10.800 --> 00:48:18.690 jduke: And that's just a that's a daily went for me or for daily loss because I don't have it. I need to be able to do it. But it's funny how everything builds off of that.

344 00:48:19.140 --> 00:48:25.560 jduke: And so, and then if you happen. By the way, if you have to make a lot of money and you happen to get positional power. Do you happen to become a big time. Dude, which I am not.

345 00:48:25.950 --> 00:48:30.330 jduke: The only guy that ever wrote a book don't have a picture of space on the coaching book because nobody knows who the heck I am

346 00:48:30.990 --> 00:48:42.030 jduke: But I have joined what I do. And as I get older, my wife will tell you. She goes, I got the husband back I in a perfect Guzman, I still screw up. I mean I my to do list is pretty good today. I

347 00:48:43.620 --> 00:48:54.540 jduke: Put us the joy is the every day joy of doing what you do and that's why I love talking to you, Joel, it's very obvious that you have gone through some things in your life. But now, Joy is what you exhibit

348 00:48:55.260 --> 00:48:59.280 jduke: way that you communicate to the way that you do that on social platforms and

349 00:48:59.400 --> 00:49:08.280 Joel Goldberg: I appreciate you saying that in it is I've found a new calling even during these last few weeks and understanding that that I have a voice and

350 00:49:08.730 --> 00:49:22.170 Joel Goldberg: I've got people that are watching and listening these things. And so that's there is joy. There's a privilege to that there's purpose to it starting to understand the why more and more every day. I don't think you ever fully understand the why. I think you keep searching for it.

351 00:49:22.500 --> 00:49:23.160 Joel Goldberg: I think

352 00:49:23.460 --> 00:49:30.570 Joel Goldberg: Otherwise if if there's a magic trick there let me know because I i can't fully find it, but I feel like I'm getting closer on

353 00:49:30.630 --> 00:49:31.470 Joel Goldberg: Our final

354 00:49:31.620 --> 00:49:36.990 Joel Goldberg: Four final quick questions. As we wrap things up. It's what I call rounding the bases, the first one.

355 00:49:38.400 --> 00:49:48.180 Joel Goldberg: There's no simple answer. But, but I know in my notes. I wrote something down. It was fascinating to me. I love getting into your head or love love starting to get into your head a little bit

356 00:49:49.140 --> 00:49:52.410 Joel Goldberg: You know, I've got a Bachelor of Arts degree from the University of Wisconsin.

357 00:49:52.980 --> 00:50:03.240 Joel Goldberg: I sort of always thought while I hated science. I wasn't gonna have a bachelor of science, but but you broke it down in a different way. And it was really fascinating to me. What's the difference between art and science.

358 00:50:03.510 --> 00:50:18.000 jduke: Yeah, you know, science are things that you can measure and we need to measure things. So you literally can there's there's a physical measurement to them so original degrees in our country. Think about it by bad for science, math or science or engineering, medicine.

359 00:50:21.060 --> 00:50:23.070 jduke: Legal issues attorneys and so forth.

360 00:50:24.270 --> 00:50:26.700 jduke: So you think about things that have to be measured. Well,

361 00:50:27.150 --> 00:50:33.060 jduke: And then people go, Okay, this is good to measure things. But what if we only measure things. So let me give you an example.

362 00:50:33.510 --> 00:50:40.080 jduke: We live here in Florida, and we love talking about our sunrises and sunsets, where the independent on on the east coast of the West Coast. I live right in the middle of state, by the way.

363 00:50:40.440 --> 00:50:44.280 jduke: One of the coolest things to do, where we live, we live right in the middle of the state will kind of Claremont

364 00:50:44.670 --> 00:50:50.070 jduke: When you get older you do these things get up in the morning or like the drive to the east coast, you have a great breakfast you watch the sun come up

365 00:50:50.580 --> 00:50:58.290 jduke: Then you drive across the peninsula takes about two hours spend the day doing some stuff. I have a great seafood dinner and watch the sunset over the goal.

366 00:50:58.800 --> 00:51:08.220 jduke: So if you defined a sunrise or sunset from a science standpoint, they're the same every day, there's this big ball of fire. It's x amount of million miles away.

367 00:51:08.790 --> 00:51:16.560 jduke: And it provides light and heat. And by the way, when the light and heat enters our atmosphere obviously warms it up in the refraction of

368 00:51:16.920 --> 00:51:25.140 jduke: That light coming through our atmosphere creates the color right so we talked about the color of the water being blue. And it's actually not blue, but the reflection of light does

369 00:51:25.350 --> 00:51:32.520 jduke: But you can define it every day. The same way big ball of fire X amount of millions of while this thing just spins out here called the earth in the light hits. These things happen.

370 00:51:32.910 --> 00:51:42.660 jduke: Is the same every day. That's the science and that's good. But what makes it beautiful. The art every sunrise and sunset is different.

371 00:51:43.470 --> 00:51:48.030 jduke: And when you gaze at it. You're just amazed at the beauty of what's around you.

372 00:51:48.540 --> 00:51:56.280 jduke: Now, which one is more important. They both go hand in hand without the science. I listen, I don't want to cross a bridge engineering is what I was gonna say their school

373 00:51:56.520 --> 00:52:02.040 jduke: Engineering, you go across the bridge. You want to make sure it's been an engineer that has studied that ribs are structurally going to hold up.

374 00:52:03.000 --> 00:52:09.240 jduke: But if that's all their new there's no beauty, then you've lost the essence of going across that beautiful river.

375 00:52:09.720 --> 00:52:15.540 jduke: That you go across and sensing that which is so science is the measurement art is the expression

376 00:52:15.810 --> 00:52:21.600 jduke: And the reason arts not taught. Well, universities, how do you give a kid a grade on the ability to express

377 00:52:21.810 --> 00:52:25.830 jduke: Aren't can only be expressed and what do we do in a great painting takes up in artists.

378 00:52:26.040 --> 00:52:35.640 jduke: Does a great painting and we all love the painting. What's the first thing we do we make a science out of it right we replicated so you can get a replication of that art piece, but there's only one original

379 00:52:36.090 --> 00:52:42.420 jduke: Art brings out the expression of it can only be expressed very hard to measure. But you know, it's real.

380 00:52:42.750 --> 00:52:54.270 jduke: Just like in sport. When you say that team plays with one heartbeat. They play together as one. I love we say one heartbeat. We go right to the science, the only one heartbeat. What's that the left ventricle or the right atrium.

381 00:52:55.260 --> 00:53:02.130 jduke: No, that's not what we're talking about. That's what the heart is physically from a science standpoint, but we say no, it's so much more. It's beautiful.

382 00:53:02.610 --> 00:53:09.720 jduke: So that's why degrees or science that's why coaching the greatest organizations and coaching education says coaches are as much an art.

383 00:53:10.470 --> 00:53:22.020 jduke: As it is a science. Both are necessary, but science without art you lose the beauty. Yeah, absolutely. Used to be. And that's why you're. That's why you love expressing this is the art side who you are, Joel.

384 00:53:22.380 --> 00:53:22.680 Joel Goldberg: That's

385 00:53:23.190 --> 00:53:32.940 jduke: Love the night the sciences, you better figure out how you're going to broadcast this and how you you without it. You're not going to have a medium to display your information that's the science side, but the art of the expression

386 00:53:33.450 --> 00:53:37.950 Joel Goldberg: And that's why I'm glad that there are people smarter than me to figure out the side so that I can express the art.

387 00:53:38.250 --> 00:53:39.330 Joel Goldberg: It all works out.

388 00:53:39.390 --> 00:53:40.620 jduke: Hopefully, yeah.

389 00:53:40.680 --> 00:53:44.760 Joel Goldberg: Most of the time. Second question, as we round the basis

390 00:53:46.110 --> 00:53:50.100 Joel Goldberg: What's it like having a son as a boss, I believe that you coach for your son now.

391 00:53:50.580 --> 00:53:53.220 jduke: Yeah. So as I've gotten older, I've always been coaching and I'm

392 00:53:53.550 --> 00:53:54.270 jduke: You know, if the coach.

393 00:53:54.300 --> 00:54:04.110 jduke: Coach down. He was throwing the ball before bio smashes data. He was one of the early guys. It was through the bond as he uses and we added through the bulk of the work physical enough to play up front. So he was a passing guys so I kind of grew up in that environment.

394 00:54:04.470 --> 00:54:10.590 jduke: So high schools. I'm always on somebody staff being somebody passing coordinator. So I'm because I just love being around the game.

395 00:54:11.070 --> 00:54:21.900 jduke: And my second son who who grew up in this home who saw the dad struggle with the the call his life and he found he found his early into is going to be a heck of a ball coach and so few years ago.

396 00:54:22.290 --> 00:54:30.030 jduke: Now job at a high school here in Orlando. That's the oldest high school second old that. Well, there's two high schools that are the same age, and he took over program was open 10

397 00:54:30.600 --> 00:54:40.440 jduke: But 30 years 28 years of age. He knew the expression of the art of coach and he was beautiful to watch. We took it to us. Oh, and 10 and this past year he

398 00:54:41.700 --> 00:54:47.610 jduke: He went all the way state final awesome number one team in the nation. He's a public school last one big giant private school of South Florida.

399 00:54:48.000 --> 00:55:03.570 jduke: And and i love the coaching so few years ago, he says, Dad. He says you're coaching everywhere. I'm now back in Central Florida, he doesn't live in a house ABI he's 30 Miles places, but I want you to be my offensive coordinator. And so, you know, he asked his mom my wife.

400 00:55:04.800 --> 00:55:13.290 jduke: He didn't see me get all emotional many did I got tears wants me to work for him. So I did. So I've been as offensive coordinator for three years and Joel I have a call to play yet.

401 00:55:13.770 --> 00:55:23.910 jduke: And so figure that one out. How can you be an offensive coordinator and not call a play. He's got the old man in the booth rien fronts and coverages and since stuff down give you this one story is a true story.

402 00:55:24.390 --> 00:55:33.870 jduke: So I just watched him take this. It's beautiful job if I could, I could spend hours just telling you the beauty of relationships that have been enhanced coaches families, just by others. Dude, coaches,

403 00:55:34.440 --> 00:55:39.540 jduke: But he's got me coaching ball. I work with the receivers and quarterbacks buddy. He's got an offensive mind.

404 00:55:40.050 --> 00:55:47.130 jduke: But he won't let me call a play and I'm up in the booth. I've got some thoughts and P i did what front of the and what coverage and, you know, but it and asked me to call a play.

405 00:55:47.550 --> 00:55:54.480 jduke: We're in the state finals were playing St. Thomas Aquinas ended up number one in the nation. One of the most they had 22 kids signed division won scholarships. This

406 00:55:54.480 --> 00:55:54.960 Joel Goldberg: Past year

407 00:55:55.140 --> 00:56:03.510 jduke: Great private school and they're a great school but we're a public school. So we were massive underdogs massive on your docs. They had one by 30 something points all there for

408 00:56:03.930 --> 00:56:06.000 jduke: playoff games and we played them great

409 00:56:06.690 --> 00:56:16.080 jduke: And a stadium pack stay on large classification. We got the ball with two and a half minutes to go. We're down five from our own 10 yard line we drive down the field. We got about eight seconds left.

410 00:56:16.410 --> 00:56:23.190 jduke: Our last time out on the 20 something your ROI. We got one play to upset the number one team. I'm just would have been a storybook finished.

411 00:56:23.700 --> 00:56:32.370 jduke: And so everybody's in the huddle my son's on the headsets down with his team and I'm up in the booth and here's what I get. Hey, Dad, what you got.

412 00:56:33.180 --> 00:56:41.460 jduke: Now remember, I've been with three years. I didn't call a play and now he wants to know, what's the magic play with no time left on the clock from the 27 yard line.

413 00:56:42.210 --> 00:56:49.380 jduke: There is no point there is no play designed for that and you should. It was the most fun conversation. I've ever had the coaching hat let off.

414 00:56:49.890 --> 00:56:56.400 jduke: The dad went off my dad hat went on. Here we are state finals pits moment my comment to my son, his son. Don't you ever

415 00:56:56.820 --> 00:57:02.070 jduke: Ask your dad what played a call from the 27 yard line with six seconds left on the clock.

416 00:57:02.520 --> 00:57:11.850 jduke: And we call some play through in the end zone. We got knocked down and but we have laughed and laughed and laughed, but I'm telling you, Joel. The beauty is yes. I love being with my son.

417 00:57:12.240 --> 00:57:21.330 jduke: But the thing that excites me as a parent is when you see your own kids do it better than you. That will fulfill you as a parent.

418 00:57:23.280 --> 00:57:27.600 Joel Goldberg: Well said. Third question, as we round the basis

419 00:57:29.040 --> 00:57:31.560 Joel Goldberg: How much easier or difficult

420 00:57:31.710 --> 00:57:34.980 Joel Goldberg: Our kids in the classroom versus kids on the football field.

421 00:57:36.180 --> 00:57:48.840 jduke: I don't think there's any difference at all. Here's what I know, four out of five kids within five years of graduate now once you really think on this step four out of five years, four out of five kids within graduation of their undergraduate degree.

422 00:57:50.040 --> 00:58:00.060 jduke: Do not work in their field within five years. Here they are in the prime of their life physiologically right 18 to 25 whatever that college ages. I mean, everything should be

423 00:58:00.390 --> 00:58:05.340 jduke: If it's going to work well, physiologically, that's what this working the way all the hormones are things. Everything's go

424 00:58:05.700 --> 00:58:12.360 jduke: In here, they are in a pivotal time in her life and they're spending a great majority of their time going to school going to college, they pick a degree.

425 00:58:13.080 --> 00:58:19.890 jduke: And what they do is they pick a degree and then five years later, they get into their field and they go, I don't want to do this isn't what I want to do.

426 00:58:20.700 --> 00:58:29.100 jduke: So the question begs itself. Well, why did you pick that degree because education is not the secret sauce. Education is just an arrow in your quiver.

427 00:58:29.430 --> 00:58:35.340 jduke: But what I found out as an educator is we haven't taken time to be able to take a look at who these kids are.

428 00:58:35.670 --> 00:58:43.890 jduke: And to be able to say, why do you want to do. What is your interest. What do you really love doing in life. Now let's talk about that. And when you kind of figure that out a little bit.

429 00:58:44.550 --> 00:58:52.110 jduke: Then maybe picking the degree, the best students. I always get I mean 100% of the time that's anecdotal. By the way, it's not responsible but it's

430 00:58:52.650 --> 00:58:56.430 jduke: The greater, greater majority the kids when they actually do life.

431 00:58:56.970 --> 00:59:05.580 jduke: And they come back to get their degree. They're always excellent students there a students. Why, because they now realize I want to do this in life and my education will help me get there.

432 00:59:05.970 --> 00:59:09.510 jduke: That's an intrinsic motivator, that you cannot define

433 00:59:09.960 --> 00:59:19.680 jduke: And so I don't think kids have changed. In fact, I love that sometimes I hear people say, well, there's generations lazy, they can't find their way, you know, the whole thing about the millennials hanging around the house and not do anything till later.

434 00:59:20.220 --> 00:59:25.230 jduke: I actually looked at as a very positive thing because I realized what they've done is they've looked back at my generation.

435 00:59:25.620 --> 00:59:34.680 jduke: And they watched me the baby boomers we sprawled we went for all the stuff. And guess what we did. We got all this stuff. I don't mean we got a lot. We had probably had more than what our parents had stuff.

436 00:59:35.130 --> 00:59:40.830 jduke: And then we get our age, you know, this is a crazy word that we use, guess what we all do we get in our 60s downsize.

437 00:59:41.460 --> 00:59:47.250 jduke: I think about their work we downsized that that's a nice, that's a nice little word of saying, I don't know what to do with all this stuff.

438 00:59:47.760 --> 00:59:57.630 jduke: And so now we got it. So we just start discarding the stuff because we want to get back to what we really want to do because now we're old and that we really kind of know what we love doing. And we don't need all this

439 00:59:58.290 --> 01:00:04.980 jduke: The millennials, the younger generations have watched that. And because they watched that we say they're a little slower developing I disagree.

440 01:00:05.580 --> 01:00:07.800 jduke: I think they're taking a time out and they're looking

441 01:00:08.130 --> 01:00:17.400 jduke: For a little bit better answer in life in what they do. I say, What's your sort of job and a career in a calling a job. It's something you do to meet with your life. We all need to meet demand. There's bills, depending

442 01:00:17.940 --> 01:00:21.390 jduke: You know what a career in this just means that a job for a long time, that's all a career means

443 01:00:22.020 --> 01:00:31.590 jduke: But a calling, or your purpose or your wise when you begin to define, maybe there's something more by what I can do to really engage and help the needs of others. I love what you said, y'all. It is a journey.

444 01:00:32.160 --> 01:00:40.680 jduke: When you engage the journey, you don't necessarily know the end but you know you're on the right you know you're on the right destination you know that you're mapping the right way.

445 01:00:41.250 --> 01:00:48.990 jduke: And so I don't look at this generation is being slow, I look at me as an educator, I get a chance to come alongside and engage them in this journey.

446 01:00:49.530 --> 01:00:57.540 jduke: I'm not going to satisfy the boy, the response that we get the surveys, we get from our kids in the semester meditates classes or this classmates so much to me.

447 01:00:58.020 --> 01:01:10.890 jduke: And it's usually not the science side though, there's a lot that has to be talking with science side, but more of the journey or the art side of looking at my expression as I move forward in life. I love that about education done well, I should say.

448 01:01:12.240 --> 01:01:22.800 Joel Goldberg: Education done well. Final question. As we wrap things up the walk off question. And you've touched on some of this, but I'll go back to it because in my notes from

449 01:01:23.340 --> 01:01:28.860 Joel Goldberg: The time that we met in our first conversation, you and I could talk for 10 hours. I'm pretty sure about that.

450 01:01:29.340 --> 01:01:40.260 Joel Goldberg: I think we aligned in a lot of ways I've certainly learned so much. And every time you speak in bold and all my notes I I wrote, why do we do what we do.

451 01:01:40.860 --> 01:01:56.130 Joel Goldberg: If you can't answer it. Don't do it. And so here you are with this incredible passion, everyone could hear that in your voice for all the different things that started off this podcast talking about the different hats that you wear

452 01:01:57.450 --> 01:02:01.890 Joel Goldberg: wrap it all up for me in this walk off question. Why do you do what you do.

453 01:02:03.090 --> 01:02:07.710 jduke: The why question can only be defined when you go inside and the only way to do that is have an introspective time

454 01:02:08.370 --> 01:02:12.390 jduke: We still have to do things I have bills to pay. So there's jobs that I need to do.

455 01:02:12.720 --> 01:02:22.320 jduke: But there has to be a time in one's life. When you take a timeout. We often say this with coaches, you know, coaches, know how to take the time out the Greeks, use the word kairos in

456 01:02:22.920 --> 01:02:30.570 jduke: This term kairos versus Kronos Kronos being chronology seconds, minutes, hours, days kairos as well yeah time does move in increments.

457 01:02:31.200 --> 01:02:38.910 jduke: But a kairos time is when your lifestyles and your life stops and you begin ask the deeper questions. Why do I do what I do and

458 01:02:39.420 --> 01:02:45.960 jduke: Sad thing is in our culture. Usually it's tragic you're tough times. It's a sickness illness, death divorce, loss of a job.

459 01:02:46.200 --> 01:02:53.010 jduke: That forced me my my deal was loss of a job that made me take that time out. The good news is you don't have to wait for tragedy, take a timeout.

460 01:02:53.520 --> 01:03:02.940 jduke: And supported and usually it's kind of a tragic time most coaches call timeouts when things aren't working well. The signals aren't going into play. Didn't happen. The kids are taught timeout timeout.

461 01:03:03.390 --> 01:03:11.580 jduke: And here they come over, but great coaches know what I've got this little bit of time this minute, maybe it's a halftime. And what do you do you look back and you say okay

462 01:03:12.060 --> 01:03:21.000 jduke: This isn't working. Will you come up with a strategy. We call that an adjustment. You put the adjustment you send them back into the game and hopefully you're better coming

463 01:03:21.300 --> 01:03:30.450 jduke: Out of the time out, then you were coming into the timeout, I am convinced, without a doubt, with this age of just so much hyper information.

464 01:03:30.900 --> 01:03:41.550 jduke: That it's hard for us to understand the importance of taking a timeout timeout doesn't mean you quit timeout just means you pause the Greeks had it right of kairos time where I pause

465 01:03:42.090 --> 01:03:47.610 jduke: MY PAWS took place where I lost a job for three days. I came back for three days. I just asked myself, why do I do what I do.

466 01:03:48.060 --> 01:04:00.990 jduke: And it was in those times that. Why is not a defined answer. Otherwise, like you said, Everybody would do it. It'd be like it is like offensive football. There was one offensive strategy that would work all the time. Don't you think we'd all be running those same place.

467 01:04:02.250 --> 01:04:08.040 jduke: It's an internal journey. I believe we're individually and uniquely made the one thing that I love that.

468 01:04:08.790 --> 01:04:20.820 jduke: That's coming out of dealing with this Black Lives Matters, is that we are individually and uniquely made. We all have our experiences we all come from different backgrounds and when you engage in others, and you actually learn from them about their background.

469 01:04:21.060 --> 01:04:29.370 jduke: There's a sense of community that begins to take place, even if you're not a change agent, you're more empathetic than you are sympathetic empathy. I really doubt feel

470 01:04:29.700 --> 01:04:37.350 jduke: Things that have happier life, which makes you a better person along the line that can only take place when you take a timeout.

471 01:04:37.620 --> 01:04:43.050 jduke: And so I really encourage folks if you've never done that, you know, you can get help for people to help you do that people so

472 01:04:43.620 --> 01:04:53.130 jduke: I thought, well, how do I slowed it is auto. Well, how do I slow down and do that because it's not part of what we teach in our culture anymore. We just teach another day get after it.

473 01:04:53.700 --> 01:05:01.050 jduke: And I think that those pausing times are hugely important. And so I really encourage people if you haven't done that take an internal ago

474 01:05:01.290 --> 01:05:09.180 jduke: How can you create that more than just a vacation to go do more stuff but you you hit it right on the head. You said you came down to Orlando.

475 01:05:09.540 --> 01:05:15.900 jduke: You spent seven days with your family. You got your right when the parts close because of the virus and then you said to me in the beginning.

476 01:05:16.530 --> 01:05:24.690 jduke: Those were great seven days. Wish I could do it again. Well, that doesn't make sense. You came to Orlando. You didn't go to a theme park. How can you have had fun.

477 01:05:25.410 --> 01:05:35.640 jduke: Because you start probably more time just being with your family, enjoying the being together and probably that intrinsic value of taking time out has greater value than what a lot of people

478 01:05:36.480 --> 01:05:44.730 Joel Goldberg: No question. And I think that, you know, if people can survive these times, and I mean that financially and medically

479 01:05:45.210 --> 01:05:52.980 Joel Goldberg: That that they will come out better for this certainly with a different perspective that that includes what's going on with the protests in that

480 01:05:53.640 --> 01:06:04.170 Joel Goldberg: racial injustice in this country. There's so many lessons to learn and I am excited to see where we go with the Jeff, I knew this would be engaging and fun and

481 01:06:04.980 --> 01:06:12.240 Joel Goldberg: The beauty of technology. The, the science of it is that you and I have this ability to connect Kansas City.

482 01:06:12.780 --> 01:06:21.510 Joel Goldberg: To Florida can see the Orlando area and get this done. And so I'm grateful for all the time that you spent and one day we'll meet in person.

483 01:06:22.020 --> 01:06:27.660 Joel Goldberg: And maybe it'll be you and I maybe it'll be you and I and Kathy Nelson. I'm grateful that she connected us and

484 01:06:28.140 --> 01:06:46.170 Joel Goldberg: Really really appreciative of all of your, your insight, your wisdom and you're doing exactly what you've said, I'm in here and I'm trying to not trying to, I can't stop it. I'm moving into that role of sage now to as I watch all these kids getting into broadcasting that are

485 01:06:46.380 --> 01:06:51.330 Joel Goldberg: 20 something plus years younger than me and then the athletes that are combined two of them, they're

486 01:06:51.960 --> 01:06:58.890 Joel Goldberg: There, they're younger than me. If you combine two of them and they're totally just so that that's life. That's not a bad thing. I think it's something to embrace but

487 01:06:59.220 --> 01:07:07.170 Joel Goldberg: I know if people want to learn more about the 3D Institute. The website is 3D the number three.

488 01:07:08.010 --> 01:07:16.920 Joel Goldberg: And then D, you can do that. I'll put it in the show notes, too. And certainly, you can, you know, you can look at Jeff over at UCF, and

489 01:07:17.460 --> 01:07:30.120 Joel Goldberg: He's busy. He's all over the place. I hope that we've got a school schedule for you in the fall, a high school football schedule for you in the fall and that we're getting back to normal. Whatever it is, I know you will take that pause that's necessary to get to get things done.

490 01:07:30.360 --> 01:07:39.690 jduke: And Joe when you come to Atlanta because you sit in big time press boxes and you're in big time locker rooms with come. I got a special seat for you in our high school Stadium, you will actually have a chair.

491 01:07:40.110 --> 01:07:48.810 jduke: And one Gatorade and the air conditioner works sometimes, but you will be, you will be welcome in our high school a press box whenever you come to Orlando.

492 01:07:49.200 --> 01:07:52.800 Joel Goldberg: JUST TELL YOUR SON THAT IF HE'S LOOKING FOR A PLAY. I'll be less help than you.

493 01:07:53.730 --> 01:07:55.710 Joel Goldberg: I'll be happy to sit there and hang out.

494 01:07:55.860 --> 01:07:58.680 Joel Goldberg: Jeff, thanks so much for spending the time stay healthy.

495 01:07:59.100 --> 01:08:00.750 jduke: Bless you, man. Thank you Joel appreciate

496 01:08:00.870 --> 01:08:01.950 Joel Goldberg: All right, and you can

497 01:08:03.210 --> 01:08:15.360 Joel Goldberg: Check me out if you want to get ahold of me for this podcast at Joel Goldberg or you can send that email if you've got some suggestions to info at Joel Goldberg that's going to do it for this episode. Thanks to Jeff Duke

498 01:08:15.780 --> 01:08:22.110 Joel Goldberg: Dr. Jeff Duke coach, Jeff. Duke, I'm Joel Goldberg hope to catch you next time on Rounding The Bases

Jun 22 2020 · 59mins
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06. Jeff Duke - How L/L SUPPLY leads the apparel industry in sustainability

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Jeff Duke is the Founder of L/L SUPPLY, curators of upcycled or recycled materials to create functional and comfortable apparel. In this episode, Jeff shares how a life altering event changed his path in the world, shares insights on how the traditional apparel industry creates tremendous waste, and how he plans to bring to market one of the worlds first circular models. Be sure to checkout for more information and to follow their journey. Enjoy.

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Impact Sports 1.07: Jeff Duke

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This week Chase Robinson sits down with Jeff Duke to talk about the impact of a coach.

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CTC-13 - "Becoming a 3 Dimensional Coach" with Jeff Duke

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Jeff Duke, author of 3 Dimensional Coaching joins us on the show. 

Several NKY coaches have already gone through this training and are implementing the 3D framework into their programs. 

Topics include: 

- Jeff's story of how we went from an athlete to coach of multiple sports, to current day where he's traveling the world delivering this material
- Effective ways of motivating player
- Handling emotions
- Building a strong culture of teamwork

Jeff did his Doctoral dissertation on the influence of the coach in American society. He's a down to earth guy who relates as a previous player and coach plus he's spent years unpacking what it takes to create a high performing team while also changing lives along the way. 

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Jan 15 2020 · 39mins
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#38 Jeff Duke on lifestyle over luxury, van life and sustainable clothing

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Jeff Duke is the owner of L/L Supply, a Victoria clothing store with a surfer vibe and low-waste and sustainable clothing. We chat about the waste produced by the fashion industry, how his lifestyle influenced the way he does business, the pitfalls of both van life and social media, and so much more. Connect with Jeff through Instagram @llsupply, or even better... come visit him at his shop at #103 3680 Uptown Blvs in Victoria, B.C.

Aug 18 2019 · 1hr 9mins
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3D Coaching with Dr Jeff Duke

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Dr Jeff Duke joins to discuss what a 3 Dimensional Coach looks like, how do we become one, and why it is so valuable to our athletes.
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Jeff Duke - 3D Coaching/3D Institute

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Whose Coaching the Coaches? with Jeff Duke

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In this episode learn how to minister to coaches using 3-Dimensional Coaching.  

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