A Captive Life is No Life - The Whale Sanctuary with Lori Marino
Life for captive whales and dolphins is nothing like the ocean. In artificial captivity, these highly intelligent animals battle with mental and physical health, social isolation, aggression and much shorter lives. Today I have a fascinating conversation with a lifetime advocate for the protection of these beautiful animals, Lori Marino who is a world renowned neuroscientist and expert in animal behaviour and intelligence and she's also the Founder and President of The Whale Sanctuary Project in Nova Scotia. Lori and I discuss the innate attributes of whales and dolphins, what life is really like for them in captivity and how The Whale Sanctuary is preparing to protect and rehabilitate these animals in a natural, seaside environment. Visit The Whale Sanctuary Project where you can receive updates, read stories on whales across the globe or donate to this exciting initiative. The Whale Sanctuary Project also provides updates across social media so can you follow them below: Instagram https://www.instagram.com/whalesanctuaryproject/ Twitter https://www.instagram.com/whalesanctuaryproject/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/whalesanctuaryproject/
Episode 01: Show Notes.Welcome to the All Things Wild Podcast, where we talk about wildlife across our beautiful planet through conversations with experts and nature lovers alike! Today we are joined by one of the world's leading authorities on the brains of dolphins and whales, Dr. Lori Marino. Lori is the founder and president of The Whale Sanctuary Project, has a long history in the field of neuroscience, and was featured in the landmark film, Blackfish. She joins us on the show to talk about intelligence in dolphins and whales, explaining the limitations of our understanding and how the field of research in this area has progressed over the last few decades. We also talk about Lori's own journey and research, and some of the amazing studies she has been a part of. We spend some time thinking about the complexity of intelligence, and how outdated and oversimplified perspectives of humans as the sole most intelligent life form on earth have been so clearly disproved. The conversation also covers the topics of captivity, emotional intelligence, and what we can and cannot learn from brain size and the encephalization quotient. Dr. Lori shares a wealth of insight and knowledge and her considered and open-minded approach is truly inspiring, join us to hear it all!Key Points From This Episode:How Dr. Lori became interested in studying the brains of cetaceans. Dr. Lori's early work with bottle-nosed dolphins in captivity and the study on mirror recognition. Studies on metacognition in dolphins and how this relates to self-awareness. Considering the different scientific definitions of intelligence and Lori's personal perspective. Dolphin interpretations of human intelligence!The impact of captivity on displays of skills and intelligence. Syntax and understanding of sentences in dolphins, and studies in this area.The massive similarities that exist in nature and the lack of actual divides between many species.Developments in brain size and how this occurs in the evolutionary process. The activities that utilize the more impressive parts of the dolphin mind.Unpacking the encephalization quotient and what it illuminates.The primary areas to look at in the brain when studying intelligence levels.Comparing the neocortex in dolphins and whales with that in primates. Cultural conservatism in orcas and the studies on their restricted diet.Weighing the emotional landscape of dolphins and the clear differences from human EQ.Some information on The Whale Sanctuary Project and what Dr. Lori and her team are aiming for.Tweetables:“They process information pretty quickly and they are pretty impatient, and you are always trying to catch up with them.” — @Whale_Sanctuary [0:06:01]“It really speaks to how bright they are because even under the circumstances of living in a concrete tank that is really sparse and limiting, they are still able to be engaged in very complex tasks.” — @Whale_Sanctuary [0:15:21]“It is pretty amazing that they are able to work with a human-based system, a human-based language, and they are able to do that successfully.” — @Whale_Sanctuary [0:17:51]“There is no bright line in nature that divides humans and non-humans.” — @Whale_Sanctuary
“In a natural setting, these animals would be swimming maybe a hundred miles a day, diving deep. They have their social lives, their social networks, roles to play in very tightly-knit family groups. They raise their children. They have cultures, different ways of doing things in different populations. They can explore and play and come together. None of that is available in the concrete tank. None of it. They don't have any place to go. They don't have any place to dive… what you see is a lot of mortality, a lot of sickness, a lot of behavioral abnormalities. Everything that makes life worth living for a dolphin or whale is absent in marine parks and concrete tanks. None of it is available.” – Lori Marino Lori Marino is a neuroscientist and an expert in animal behavior and intelligence. Much of her work is focused on whales and dolphins. She's currently the president of the Whale Sanctuary Project, which will be a seaside sanctuary for former performing orcas and belugas that have spent their entire lives in concrete tanks. Lori is also the founder and Executive Director of the Kimmela Center for Animal Advocacy, an organization that bridges the gap between academic research and on the ground animal advocacy efforts. She has appeared in several film and television programs, including the documentaries Blackfish, Unlocking the Cage, and Long Gone Wild, which is a 2019 documentary that picks up where Black Fish left off, and is also where the Whale Sanctuary Project begins. The Whale Sanctuary Project is going to change the world for the lucky orcas and belugas that will end up there. They will also be a model for future sanctuaries for cetaceans – as we need a ton of them, there are way too many of these animals living in captivity. It stuns me that even after documentaries like Blackfish, people all over the world (including many in the US) still visit marine mammal parks. Mostly, people go because they don’t know. They don’t know how miserable life is for the whales and dolphins and they don’t know how intelligent and emotionally complex these animals are. Keeping them in tanks is cruel, inhumane, and unjust and it needs to stop. Lori has made it her life’s work to not only study their intelligence, but to advocate and fight for their lives. This conversation is an important one, after listening to Lori, I think it’d be very difficult for anyone to give another dollar to a marine park anywhere on Earth.
Lori Marino, founder and president of The Whale Sanctuary Project
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This is the final episode of season 1!Barbara J. King is emerita professor of anthropology at the College of William and Mary and a freelance science writer. The author of six books including How Animals Grieve, Personalities on the Plate: The Lives and Minds of Animals We Eat, and Evolving God: A Provocative View on the Origins of Religion, she focuses on animal emotion and cognition, the ethics of our relating with animals, and the evolution of culture, language, and religion. Her work has appeared in Scientific American, NPR, Aeon, and Undark. Barbara is a frequent media guest on radio and TV shows, and has enjoyed doing science outreach at places like the 92nd St Y and the National Academy of Sciences’ Science & Entertainment Exchange “science speed dating” night. Watch her TED talk on grief and love in the animal kingdom here.Lori Marino is a neuroscientist and expert in animal behavior and intelligence, formerly on the faculty of Emory University. She received her PhD in biopsychology in 1995, and is internationally known for her work on the evolution of the brain and intelligence in dolphins and whales (as well as primates and farmed animals). She has published over 130 peer-reviewed scientific papers, book chapters, and magazine articles on marine mammal biology and cognition, comparative brain anatomy, self-awareness in nonhuman animals, human-nonhuman animal relationships, and the evolution of intelligence. She is also an expert on marine mammal captivity issues such as dolphin assisted therapy and the educational claims of the zoo and aquarium industry. You can find her on the The Whale Sanctuary Project's website here.Episode reading: Octopus Minds Must Lead to Octopus Ethics (2019) by Barbara J. King and Lori Marino in Animal Sentience: An Interdisciplinary Journal on Animal Feeling 26(14)Additional reading:Deception in the Animal Kingdom: Homo sapiens is not the only species that lies (2019) by Barbara J. King for Scientific AmericanCalling Team Cephalopod: Why Octopuses Could Never Disappoint (2018) by Barbara J. King for National Public RadioOctopuses are Marvels to Watch, and, for Some, to Eat Alive (2016) by Barbara J. King for National Public RadioOpening music is Where it Goes by Jahzzar. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.
International Respect for Chickens Month: Review of Stop Motion Film Chicken Run and Encore Interview of Dr. Lori Marino on Chicken Intelligence
This International Respect for Chickens Month show features a critical assessment of the film Chicken Run from our co-hosts on its anti-speciesist message and an encore interview with neuroscientist and expert in animal behaviour and intelligence, Dr. Lori Marino.Read more →
Lori Marino is a neuroscientist and expert in animal behaviour and intelligence, and is internationally known for her work on the intelligence in dolphins and whales. In 2001, she co-authored a ground-breaking study offering the first conclusive evidence for mirror self-recognition in bottlenose dolphins, after which she decided against further research with captive animals. Lori is the Founder and Executive Director of The Kimmela Center for Animal Advocacy, which focuses on bridging the gap between academic research and scholarship and on-the-ground animal advocacy efforts. She is also the Founder and President of the Whale Sanctuary Project whose mission is to establish a model seaside sanctuary where whales and dolphins can be rehabilitated or can live permanently in an environment that maximises their well-being and autonomy and is as close as possible to their natural habitat. Lori has appeared in several films and television programs, including the 2013 documentary Blackfish, Unlocking the Cage and Long Gone Wild - the 2019 documentary that picks up where Blackfish left off and where the work of the Whale Sanctuary Project begins. The Whale Sanctuary project website: https://whalesanctuaryproject.org The Whale Sanctuary project facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/whalesanctuaryproject/ The Whale Sanctuary project Twitter page: https://twitter.com/Whale_Sanctuary Lori Marino's contact email address: firstname.lastname@example.org
Lori Marino is a neuroscientist and expert in animal behavior and intelligence. She coauthored a ground breaking study that showed that bottlenose dolphins can recognize themselves in the mirror. This altered Lori's career path, she stopped working with captive animals after this, it was too difficult to know about their intelligence an see them confined to small concrete enclosures. Lori moved on to become Director and Founder of the Kimmela Center for Animal Advocacy. She also appears on the documentary Blackfish and its's sequel Long Gone Wild. Both about killer whales and captivity. Her current project, The Whale Sanctuary Project begins where Long Gone Wild left off. The Whale Sanctuary is the first of its kind. It will be located off the coast of Nova Scotia and offer previously captive whales and dolphins a natural place, with no concrete walls, to live out the rest of their lives. It is an amazing project and a major undertaking. Listen to this week's episode to hear more about this project.
Dissection Part 1: The Amazing Benefits of Non-Animal Alternatives to Classroom Dissection – Lori Marino
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In this episode, listen as Dr. Lori Marino, neuroscientist, expert in animal behaviour and intelligence brings to light the ubiquitous and unnecessary waste of life in routine school dissections. In this expert interview Lori underscores not only the efficacy of animal-friendly alternatives to dissection, but also how research has actually found these alternatives to be superior teaching tools. This interview reveals that many schools will not only provide alternatives to dissection if asked, but in fact in certain countries, including Canada, they are required to by law.
Animals Today January 5, 2019: Japan quits International Whaling Commission. Profile of animal advocate, Lori Marino, PhD.
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Japan quits International Whaling Commission The government of Japan has announced it will leave the International Whaling Commission, cease whaling in the Southern Ocean, and begin commercial whaling in the Pacific Ocean. To explain the significance of this action, Peter welcomes Kitty Block, President of Humane Society International and Acting President and CEO of the […]