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Interview with writer, director and Artistic Director of theatre company, Exit Pursued by Panda (13/01/20)

Interview with writer, director and Artistic Director of theatre company, Exit Pursued by Panda (13/01/20)

This episode is sponsored by Rohde &amp; Schwarz. Check out their reviews of their new product line at AskAnEngineer.us, including a video review from friend of the show Shahriar from The Signal Path. Welcome, Dr Adrian Tang of NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL)!  Adrian is the only CMOS chip designer at JPL (though he has grad students) He got his PhD at UCLA working on ultra high frequency devices. Check out some of his projects on his personal website. JPL has instruments that can measure these high frequencies. Terahertz spectroscopy There’s a noise floor in the universe, but gases tend to emit at certain frequencies in the 50-500 GHz region. Resonance in the THz range Pressure has to be low Trying to process as much bandwidth as possible Try to get 3GHz of bandwidth out of devices. 4000-8000 point FFT Power budget might only be 50W on a satellite. Was doing commercial CMOS previously Horn antenna + lens Tempest D mission Using cosmic background as a cal point What is the output data? Time domain data Using the LO to remove the movement of the spacecraft Doppler properties Herschel telescope Reflector to focus it down into the feed is about a meter Has to be accurate to lambda over 20 Goes into a receiver feed Mixer needs an LO IF comes out of the mixer at 3-4 GHz Takes it through the IF chain Amps and filters Apply a window function Polyphase filter Compute the FFT 1 sample isn’t enough to see something Average over 1000s of samples Rosetta orbiter was put out by ESA The more spectrum, the more chance to discover something RekTangLE balloon mission Measuring NO2 at 570 GHz Did have a failure This was one of the first CMOS chip to do atmospheric measurement Isotopes have different lines Heavy water and regular water Heavy water is naturally occurring Everywhere you go, the ratio is comparable, in the solar system Moreau on a jovian comet How have things moving into CMOS? Active and Passive Receivers Northrop Grumman makes some of the only amplifiers that can operate up to 600 GHz Past guest Tony Long talked about (relatively) high frequencies and works at NG Passive is a mixer first instead of an amplifier first Schottky mixer Express sensitivity in terms of difference Hot electron bolemetric mixers Exotic semiconductor junctions What has improved? Windfreak Packaging is not simple Waveguide is the only thing that will work at 100G They do a lot of the fab in house at JPL Measuring snow in the Sierras using Ku band radar SWE – Snow water equivalent SpectreRF Built in self test Everything on chip is the best case Using different process technologies 65 nm process technology cannot work with 180 GHz signals. What is this stuff useful for? Short range 60 Ghz Ken Cooper Threat detection, 680 GHz radar, 30 GHz bandwidth Another balloon “whatsup” will go up soon. Read about it and other balloon launches (past and present) here. Astros – 8 px, multi THz telescope Ground penetrating radar UAV snow sensor Check out more of Adrian’s work on sadcircuitdesigner.com Or check out his papers on his “articles” page

This episode is sponsored by <a href="https://www.rohde-schwarz.com/us/home_48230.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Rohde &amp; Schwarz</a>. Check out their reviews of their new product line at <a href="https://www.askanengineer.us/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">AskAnEngineer.us</a>, including a video review from friend of the show <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKxRARSpahF1Mt-2vbPug-g" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Shahriar from The Signal Path</a>. Welcome, <a href="http://sadcircuitdesigner.com/index.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Dr Adrian Tang</a> of NASA’s <a href="https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL)</a>! <ul> <li>Adrian is the only CMOS chip designer at JPL (though he has grad students)</li> <li>He got his PhD at UCLA working on ultra high frequency devices. <a href="http://sadcircuitdesigner.com/ucla-projects.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Check out some of his projects on his personal website.</a></li> <li>JPL has instruments that can measure these high frequencies.</li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terahertz_spectroscopy_and_technology" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Terahertz spectroscopy</a></li> <li>There’s a noise floor in the universe, but gases tend to emit at certain frequencies in the 50-500 GHz region.</li> <li>Resonance in the THz range</li> <li>Pressure has to be low</li> <li>Trying to process as much bandwidth as possible</li> <li>Try to get 3GHz of bandwidth out of devices.</li> <li>4000-8000 point FFT</li> <li>Power budget might only be 50W on a satellite.</li> <li>Was doing commercial CMOS previously</li> <li>Horn antenna + lens</li> <li><a href="https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/cubesat/missions/tempest-d.php" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Tempest D mission</a></li> <li>Using cosmic background as a cal point</li> <li>What is the output data?</li> <li>Time domain data</li> <li>Using the LO to remove the movement of the spacecraft</li> <li>Doppler properties</li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herschel_Space_Observatory" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Herschel telescope</a></li> <li>Reflector to focus it down into the feed is about a meter</li> <li>Has to be accurate to lambda over 20</li> <li>Goes into a receiver feed</li> <li>Mixer needs an LO</li> <li>IF comes out of the mixer at 3-4 GHz</li> <li>Takes it through the IF chain</li> <li>Amps and filters</li> <li>Apply a window function</li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyphase_quadrature_filter" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Polyphase filter</a></li> <li>Compute the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fast_Fourier_transform" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">FFT</a></li> <li>1 sample isn’t enough to see something</li> <li>Average over 1000s of samples</li> <li><a href="https://www.esa.int/Science_Exploration/Space_Science/Rosetta/The_Rosetta_orbiter" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Rosetta orbiter</a> was put out by ESA</li> <li>The more spectrum, the more chance to discover something</li> <li><a href="http://sadcircuitdesigner.com/jpl-ucla-projects.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">RekTangLE balloon mission</a></li> <li>Measuring NO2 at 570 GHz</li> <li>Did have a failure</li> <li>This was one of the first CMOS chip to do atmospheric measurement</li> <li>Isotopes have different lines</li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavy_water" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Heavy water</a> and regular water</li> <li>Heavy water is naturally occurring</li> <li>Everywhere you go, the ratio is comparable, in the solar system</li> <li>Moreau on a jovian comet</li> <li>How have things moving into CMOS?</li> <li>Active and Passive Receivers</li> <li><a href="https://www.northropgrumman.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Northrop Grumman</a> makes some of the only amplifiers that can operate up to 600 GHz</li> <li><a href="https://theamphour.com/the-amp-hour-107-millimeter-microwave-magician/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Past guest Tony Long talked about (relatively) high frequencies and works at NG</a></li> <li>Passive is a mixer first instead of an amplifier first</li> <li><a href="http://www.hp.woodshot.com/hprfhelp/4_downld/lit/diodelit/an995.pdf" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Schottky mixer</a></li> <li>Express sensitivity in terms of difference</li> <li><a href="https://arxiv.org/abs/1710.09136" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Hot electron bolemetric mixers</a></li> <li>Exotic semiconductor junctions</li> <li>What has improved?</li> <li><a href="https://windfreaktech.com/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Windfreak</a></li> <li>Packaging is not simple</li> <li>Waveguide is the only thing that will work at 100G</li> <li>They do a lot of the fab in house at JPL</li> <li><a href="http://sadcircuitdesigner.com/jpl-ucla-projects.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Measuring snow in the Sierras using Ku band radar</a></li> <li><a href="https://www.nrcs.usda.gov/wps/portal/nrcs/detail/or/snow/?cid=nrcs142p2_046155" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">SWE – Snow water equivalent</a></li> <li><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpectreRF" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">SpectreRF</a></li> <li>Built in self test</li> <li>Everything on chip is the best case</li> <li>Using different process technologies</li> <li>65 nm process technology cannot work with 180 GHz signals.</li> <li>What is this stuff useful for?</li> <li>Short range 60 Ghz</li> <li>Ken Cooper</li> <li>Threat detection, 680 GHz radar, 30 GHz bandwidth</li> <li>Another balloon “whatsup” will go up soon. <a href="https://towerfts.csbf.nasa.gov/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Read about it and other balloon launches (past and present) here</a>.</li> <li>Astros – 8 px, multi THz telescope</li> <li><a href="https://trs.jpl.nasa.gov/bitstream/handle/2014/44117/13-1291_A1b.pdf?sequence=1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Ground penetrating radar</a></li> <li>UAV snow sensor</li> <li>Check out more of Adrian’s work on <a href="http://sadcircuitdesigner.com/index.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">sadcircuitdesigner.com</a></li> <li><a href="http://sadcircuitdesigner.com/articles.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Or check out his papers on his “articles” page</a></li></ul>

#483 – An Interview with Adrian Tang