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Ozan Varol

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Ozan Varol Offers The Contrarian Mindset That Breeds Innovation

Real Relationships Real Revenue - Video Edition

Ozan Varol shares how thinking like a rocket scientist can unlock business innovations that most people would not believe are possible. Discover the lessons and ideas that allowed NASA to put a man on the moon and how to apply them to business development, the subtle insight that led to the creation of Netflix, and why questioning your assumptions is the secret to innovation and long term success. Mo asks Ozan Varol: How can we take Ozan’s content and become better skilled at business development? Ozan opened his book with the story of how John F. Kennedy pledged a literal moonshot despite the lack of technology at the time that could make it possible. Ozan wrote the book to show that it wasn’t just the technology that made putting a man on the moon possible, it was the framework of thinking that kicked everything off. The big takeaway from what NASA was able to accomplish is the combination of idealism and pragmatism. Dreaming big and then working backward from that dream and figuring out what needs to happen to get there, then methodically attacking each problem along the roadmap. Sometimes a challenge can galvanize your entire team to make your goal into a reality. Reasoning from first principles is a powerful way of reimagining and reframing what is possible. It’s a method of breaking a problem down and questioning your assumptions, and letting go of everything except for what is essential. One assumption from rocket science that didn’t change until recently was the idea that rockets couldn’t be reused. SpaceX and Blue Origin have used first principles thinking to reimagine what’s possible and it’s because someone was willing to step back and question the accepted wisdom of the time. Hack through your business assumptions. You owe to yourself and your clients to create a better vision that allows you to serve them even more. It’s important to ask yourself whether you own your assumptions or do your assumptions own you? Is it possible to question your assumptions and replace it with something better? Mo asks Ozan Varol: How can we do a better job of getting the kind of work that we want? One of the biggest problems in the business right now, especially in this time of uncertainty, is that we assume that other businesses around us know something that we don’t, so we end up copying their strategies. This ends up in a race to the center, where businesses start to look more and more like each other. First-principles thinking is a way of questioning assumptions that you or other people have taken for granted. One of the best tools for identifying your invisible assumptions about your business is cross-pollination. Look at other industries and see what they do because what is commonplace in one industry can be completely innovative in another. A great example is the origin story of Netflix, where Reid Hastings had the idea of applying the subscription model that gyms use and applied it to video rentals. Most of us can not see our outdated assumptions because we are too close to the problem. There is immense value in stepping outside of your industry for inspiration. The humility that comes from saying you don’t know something is very rare, but that is the mindset that often leads to innovation. Many of the business leaders that have transformed the way we do things have done so with the beginner’s mindset after entering another industry from the one they started in. Bring people into the conversation that know nothing about what you are working on. Beginners have a way of looking at a problem that more experienced people can’t even see. Experts should not work in isolation, they should benefit from the input and the “dumb” questions of amateurs. Mo asks Ozan Varol: How can we deepen relationships for long term success? There is a simple concept within rocket science known as “test as you fly, fly as you test”. It's about making sure your experiments are as close to the real conditions as possible. In business, we almost never experiment and instead go from idea to execution immediately. Look at whatever you are offering from the perspective of the people that you are serving. It’s hard to see the human component of our product or service from a PowerPoint presentation. Keeping the client’s perspective in mind is how you increase the value of your relationship with them. The client won’t know what it will be like to work with you, but if you can give them a sample (the Give to Get), you can set yourself apart from the competition and give your client value upfront. This shows them what your relationship will look like, which is something that no email, sales page, or presentation can do. The best way to reframe a question is to step away from a tactic and see the overall strategy. Often the tactic becomes a trap. If you’ve become used to using the same tactic to reach people you won’t see the other options that are possible. There are other tactics available that fit into your overall strategy but you need to be able to step back and see what is possible. Mo asks Ozan Varol: How can we hack our own habits to be successful over a long period of time? The best way to grow your business is to do nothing. So many of us are in constant hustle mode, constantly going from one thing to the next. There is an incredible value in simply doing nothing but thinking. Schedule time every day that is dedicated to unplugging and thinking. Don’t approach it with an agenda or an outcome, just write down whatever comes to your mind. 95% of your thoughts will be junk, but the remaining 5% can be invaluable. Research shows that when you are daydreaming, a region of the brain called the default node network comes alive and that region is associated with creativity. When you let your mind wander you are allowing your subconscious to connect the dots that you would otherwise have missed. This is why so many great ideas come to people in the shower. If you can take that and build it into your day, you’ll find that it will become the most valuable time on your schedule. Do what works for you. Thinking time can take the form of going for a walk, exercising, or just sitting in your favorite armchair. As long as you are stepping away from distractions you are opening yourself to great ideas. We are walking repositories of epiphanies, the problem is we are generally too distracted to receive them. Creativity comes as a subtle whisper, and if you’re not paying attention, it’s very easy to miss. Avoid using your phone or laptop to take notes. For Ozan, that means a notepad and pencil. Put it on your calendar and treat it like a meeting. Start it as an experiment and start small. Part of the reason that people shy away from this kind of practice is there doesn’t appear to be an immediate return on the time. Approach it as a long term investment that will turn into amazing opportunities in the future. You need to find a balance between the short term demands of business and your long term vision. Mo shares his insights from the habits of Ozan Varol. Always having a couple moonshot ideas that you are working on is incredibly valuable as you are working on the day to day tasks of business development. For something to be a moonshot, it has to be something that would completely change the game, for example, a 10x investment. What can you work on that is totally different from what you are doing right now, that if it worked, would be a 10x game changer for your business. There is a large correlation between highly efficient people and problem solvers and the ability to reframe questions. The ability to reframe the question behind your actions is how you can achieve incredible results. Instead of getting stuck in a rut, stepping back and seeing the bigger strategy may be what you need to do to see better alternatives. By reframing the question we get a much broader context of what we might do next. Being willing to admit that you know nothing opens up your mind to learning. The beginner’s mindset is liberating and puts you in a position to learn more. We have to seek outside our tiny ecosystem of our business and clients to see other ways of doing things that can unlock innovations that can change everything. Mentioned in this Episode: GrowBIGPlaybook.com weeklycontrarian.com


20 Mar 2021

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Episode #142 Ozan Varol

FranklinCovey On Leadership with Scott Miller

Shoot for the Moon | Join astrophysicist, lawyer, and bestselling author of Think Like a Rocket Scientist, Ozan Varol, as he sheds light on the unique way rocket scientists think and how that perspective, idealism, and eye to the sky can propel your business forward. Subscribe to the FranklinCovey On Leadership email newsletter and receive weekly videos, tools, articles, and podcasts to help you become a better leader. ow.ly/tH5E30kAxfj Learn From Your Past: Use this tool to examine mindset shifts you have made and gain insights to effectively shift your thinking in the future. https://pages.franklincovey.com/2021-Q2-NL-Feb16_Newsletter-Tool-Download.html


16 Feb 2021

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EP 256: Think Like a Rocket Scientist with Ozan Varol

The Innovation Show

Ozan Varol reveals simple strategies from rocket science that you can use to make your own giant leaps in work and life - whether it's landing your dream job, accelerating your business, learning a new skill, or creating the next breakthrough product. Today, thinking like a rocket scientist is a necessity. We all encounter complex and unfamiliar problems in our lives. Those who can tackle these problems -- without clear guidelines and with the clock ticking -- enjoy an extraordinary advantage. Think Like a Rocket Scientist will inspire you to take your own moonshot and enable you to achieve lift-off. More about Ozan here: https://ozanvarol.com

1hr 19mins

14 Jan 2021

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Episode 94: Ozan Varol – Rocket Scientist Turned Law Professor & Bestselling Author (1)

Habits and Hustle

Ozan Varol is literally a Rocket Scientist turn Law Professor (at Lewis & Clark Law School) and is the author of the bestselling book Think Like a Rocket Scientist. Ozan discusses how conventional wisdom has stunted our growth and he delves into the specific ways we can approach decisions of all magnitudes in our life. Each minute of this episode has something valuable to be learned and his strategies are designed to be applicable to anyone! This episode is essential to see why flying lower is not necessarily safer than flying high.  Youtube Link to This Episode Ozan’s WebsiteOzan’s Instagram ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Did you learn something from tuning in today? Please pay it forward and write us a 5-star review on Apple Podcasts. 📧If you have feedback for the show, please email habitsandhustle@habitnest.com 📙Get yourself a copy of Jennifer Cohen’s newest book from Habit Nest, Badass Body Goals Journal. ℹ️Habits & Hustle Website 📚Habit Nest Website 📱Follow Jennifer– Instagram– Facebook– Twitter– Jennifer’s Website

14 Dec 2020

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Ozan Varol | Think Like a Rocket Scientist

Good Life Project

Ozan Varol is a rocket scientist turned award-winning professor and bestselling author.A native of Istanbul, Turkey, Ozan Varol grew up in a family of no English speakers. He learned English as a second language and moved to the United States by himself at 17 to attend Cornell University and major in astrophysics. While there, he served on the operations team for the 2003 Mars Exploration Rovers project that sent two rovers–Spirit and Opportunity–to Mars. He built stuff that went to the red planet and wrote code that snaps photos of the Martian surface. He was on track to built a powerhouse career as a literal rocket scientist.Leaving Cornell, though, Ozan pivoted and went to law school, graduating first in his class, earning the highest grade point average in his law school’s history, then became a law professor, teaching at Lewis & Clark Law School in his twenties, becoming the youngest tenured professor. While teaching law, there was always a deeper driver, the rocket scientist in him was on a mission to share the scientific process and mindset to influence others to make giant leaps on Earth. He shares philosophy in the wonderful book, Think Like a Rocket Scientist: Simple Strategies You Can Use to Make Giant Leaps in Work and Life (https://tinyurl.com/yyr3g6kf)You can find Ozan Varol at: Website (http://weeklycontrarian.com/)Check out offerings & partners: KiwiCo: kiwico.com - Get 50% off your first month plus FREE shipping on any crate line with code GOODLIFEThe New Yorker: NewYorker.com/GOODLIFE - Get 12 weeks of The New Yorker for just $6 - plus, you will receive an exclusive tote bag - free.Man Crates: ManCrates.com/GOODLIFE

1hr 4mins

23 Nov 2020

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Ozan Varol ON: 9 Strategies to Manage Success and Failure in Work and Life

On Purpose with Jay Shetty

Do you crave the mental focus of a rocket scientist but think it’s something you will never achieve? Join Jay Shetty and Ozan Varol in this ON Purpose episode to learn simple strategies you can use to make giant leaps in work and life. Varol shares his wisdom on first principle thinking, knowing the difference between strategy and tactic, and shifting your mental focus. Catch the whole episode to hear Jay Shetty and Ozan Varol explain how you can think like a rocket scientist.A word from our sponsors:Find better ways to advance your health. Check out the advanced smartwatch, Fitbit Sense, and visit https://www.fitbit.com to get FREE SHIPPING.Let NetSuite show you how they'll benefit your business with a FREE Product Tour at https://www.NetSuite.com/Jay.JUST Egg makes it easy to take the first step toward a healthier lifestyle and plant-based diet, without sacrificing taste. JUST Egg is available nationwide on Amazon Prime Now or Instacart or at Whole Foods, your local grocery store or co-op in the egg aisle or frozen section. Literati is a subscription book club that sends a beautiful book to your door each month, hand-picked by world-renowned authors and leaders. Visit https://www.literati.com/ONPURPOSE to get $50 off your annual membership.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.


9 Nov 2020

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How to Think Like a Rocket Scientist – Ozan Varol with Dave Asprey : 738

Bulletproof Radio

In this episode of Bulletproof Radio, my guest, is a real-life rocket scientist. Ozan Varol definitely brings the goods in this conversation. You’ll learn how to think big, flirt with uncertainty, not be afraid to fail, and launch your success.In his new book, “Think Like a Rocket Scientist: Simple Strategies You Can Use to Make Giant Leaps in Work and Life,” Ozan explains how to develop critical thinking skills so you can tackle seemingly impossible things. As an astrophysicist, Ozan was part of the operations team for the 2003 Mars Exploration Rovers project, where he built stuff that went to the Red Planet and wrote code that snapped photos of the Martian surface. Then he pivoted to become a lawyer, then changed direction again to become an award-winning law professor, author, and public speaker.The whole time, he kept on thinking like a rocket scientist. Here’s Ozan’s perspective on a few of the things we talked about:Figure Things Out: “In the real world, problems are not handed to you on a silver platter. You have to find the problem and then you have to reframe it. Define it. Figure out ways of looking at it from different angles so you can illuminate other answers that you may have initially missed, but you don't learn any of that in school.” Pivot & Problem-solving: “If you're listening to this and the pandemic has disrupted the way that you conduct your business, ask yourself, how do I solve the problems that the world needs solving right now, as opposed to the problems that I want it to solve, as opposed to the problems that I expected to solve? How can I use my skills, resources, product services in a way that I haven't used them before to address the problems that now exist in the world?Think Long Term: “Step No. 1 is just realizing that if you are able to look toward the long term, and stop chasing short-term outcomes, the results tend to be much better at a both personal institutional level.”Know Your Blind Spots: “Sometimes blind spots come because I am too close to the problem to think differently. And this happens quite a bit. You're so immersed in the weeds of what you’re talking about or what you’re thinking about. And it’s hard for you to step back and see other paths.”Find Your Curiosity: “Whenever I follow my natural curiosity, regardless of where it may be lead, that works out well for me. But when I start chasing outcomes, that completely robs the joy away from the process. Whenever I can turn process into play, work becomes play, play is work. There's really no distinguishing between the two, and I'm just following my curiosity, regardless of where it might lead. That's right where the magic happens.” Enjoy! And get more resources at Dave.Asprey/podcasts.SPECIAL EVENT! Join the Virtual Biohacking Conference Oct. 10, 2020. You'll get "Expert Biohacking Tips and Tools For When the Fit Hits the Shan!" This interactive one-day conference is full of keynote speakers, panels, interviews, breakout sessions, unique networking opportunities and speaker meetups, a community workshop and even prizes. Get your ticket and all the details at biohackingconference.com.


8 Sep 2020

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#205 Ozan Varol- Former Rocket Scientist on Learning Strategies, Decision Making and Managing Chaos

What Got You There with Sean DeLaney

Ozan Varol is a rocket scientist turned award-winning professor and author of the new book Think Like a Rocket Scientist: Simple Strategies You Can Use to Make Giant Leaps in Work and Life.  A native of Istanbul, he studied astrophysics at Cornell University and served on the operations team for the 2003 Mars Exploration Rovers. Varol later became a law professor at Lewis & Clark College. On this episode Ozan discusses strategies and frameworks learned from his time as a rocket scientist that we can all use to make advances in our own lives! Ozan's Episode Notes Checkout my Newsletter Connect with us! Whatgotyouthere “Uncover your talents. Discover your dream job. Thrive in YOUR culture.” Sign up for Culture Finders today at www.CultureFinders.com MCTco Collagen Protein Bars www.mctco.com 20% off with code “WGYT” Ozan's Website Ozan's Book How To Think Like a Rocket Scientist 

1hr 6mins

2 Aug 2020

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How to Think Like A Rocket Scientist with Ozan Varol

The Science of Success

In this episode, we dig deep into the science of decision making and thinking with best-selling author Ozan Varol. Ozan and I discuss how to pivot, dig into his incredible story and life journey, and how we can question our assumptions and challenge our own opinions!


23 Jul 2020

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#173: Ozan Varol - Think Like a Rocket Scientist

Disrupt Yourself Podcast with Whitney Johnson

Leaping to a new S-Curve of learning can be an overwhelming experience. As we transition from being at the top of our field into a new and less experienced trajectory, our emotions and anxieties can get the best of us. Our guest this week believes science, specifically the discipline of rocket science, can help us better navigate personal and professional disruption. Ozan Varol is a rocket scientist turned award-winning law professor and bestselling author. A renowned professor, author, and speaker, Ozan writes and speaks often about creativity and critical thinking. He's authored many book chapters and law review articles, and now he has a new book: Think Like a Rocket Scientist: Simple Strategies You Can Use to Make Giant Leaps in Work and Life. In this episode we learn how Ozan stays attune to his mind and body, sensing when it is time to disrupt. He shares how important it is to see yourself through a forgiving lens and discusses the importance of failure in the trajectory of success. For a complete transcript and links from this episode, please visit https://whitneyjohnson.com/ozan-varol.


21 Jul 2020