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15 of The Best Podcast Episodes for Kenneth Jones. A collection of podcasts episodes with or about Kenneth Jones, often where they are interviewed.

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15 of The Best Podcast Episodes for Kenneth Jones. A collection of podcasts episodes with or about Kenneth Jones, often where they are interviewed.

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Kenneth Jones, President of AMITA Health Saint Francis Hospital Evanston

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This episode features Kenneth Jones, President of AMITA Health Saint Francis Hospital Evanston. Here, he discusses the importance of consistency as a leader, how the recent COVID-19 surge has affected the community in his area, and more.

Nov 18 2020 · 16mins
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#005 Kenneth Jones (kennythechef)

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I had a great conversation with Kenneth jones and how "Kennythechef" came about. We talked about being a private chef, shared experiences with the food industry, and his endeavor with photography and filming a documentary. Give him a follow and I hope you enjoy it.


Oct 15 2020 · 42mins

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Randall Kenneth Jones Hijacks the Show... AGAIN!

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In this special episode of Unstructured in time for the holidays, Randall Kenneth Jones interviews me (or toys with me). We talk about what is my history and I learned a lot about myself that I never knew. 

This fun episode is in the spirit of Norm MacDonald and "Based on a True Story" as in that it is based on me, I exist, and the much of the rest is an inspired fabrication from Randy.

I had a lot of fun with this one and hope that you do too!

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Dec 22 2019 · 55mins
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Kenneth Jones | Church Planting is Harder than Prison

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In this week’s episode of the church planting podcast Clint Clifton talks with Kenneth Jones on the subject of why church planting is so hard, and why it was so hard for Kenneth. If you would like to learn more about Kenneth Jones you can follow the links below. If you would like to visit the Church Planting Podcast’s new website you can follow the link below.

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ALBERT: This is the Church Planting Podcast. Thank you for tuning in

ALBERT: Every week we sit down with leaders who are shaping church planting efforts.

ALBERT: Here’s your host Josh Turansky and Clint Clifton

JOSH TURANSKY: Alright welcome back to the church planting podcast. My name is Josh Turansky. I’m joined here by Clint Clifton.



CLINT CLIFTON: Should we talk about the thing everybody still talks about? The Jesus is King?

JOSH TURANSKY: Oh yeah. Yeah. Let’s spend a little bit of time. Kanye. Yes. I was a sheltered home-schooled pastor’s kid. Never listened to Kanye until this album came out. But man, I have, it has been a personal source of encouragement.


JOSH TURANSKY: Yeah. And just the story. Like you know, there’s like the ups and downs of church planting and things that are hard. And it’s been surprising, like out of the blue, “Well at least I have Kanye saved”. And I’ve taken encouragement in that. And I’ve enjoyed the album. 

CLINT CLIFTON: A lot of people, a lot of a people are saying, you know, I don’t think it’s real. Well what would you say to those guys?

JOSH TURANSKY: Well man, you do not see the rejection of Paul when he got saved. And it took Barnabas like to say like, “Hey! Here’s what’s going on.” And I understand, I mean you know? Culturally we’ve gotten burned before but, I just don’t think as Christians that the Christian disposition is one of cynicism.

CLINT CLIFTON: Well I kind of think the bible speaks directly to this issue. And it says some preach the Gospel out of rivalry as you can see but, as long as Jesus is preached. 

JOSH TURANSKY: Totally. There you go. That nails it.

CLINT CLIFTON: So, it’s really. It doesn’t matter. If I understand that verse right, it doesn’t matter if his born again or not. 

JOSH TURANSKY: Yeah. Yeah. Let me just add, one other thing that has been encouraging is just, his very dependent person. You know? So, it’s been encouraging to see the Theology coming through even just his first album. I mean he has some great…like the exchanged life is in there and just the idea of you know, Christ living you know, His life through us. For a new believer to be talking about that I think that’s awesome. What’s inspiring about artist as a whole is that they usually just do what’s normal. You know they break the rules and their just kind of outside the bounds. So not necessarily you know, Sunday service what he’s doing, but he’s just…I just appreciate the freedom of artist as a whole. And his kind of like the most recent one that I’ve watched in action.

CLINT CLIFTON: Ok good. Well we did it, the obligatory talk about Jesus  

JOSH TURANSKY: Kanye. Yeah. There we go.

So, what are we going to do in this episode?

CLINT CLIFTON: Well we’re going to talk to Kenneth Jones or KJ as I call him. KJ is a church planter in Washington. And he’s just got the most interesting back story. I’m hesitant to say much about right now ‘cause I just want him to share it and tell it. But this all came out because a couple months ago we were together and he was leading a program with his church and I was helping. Anyway, there was this conversation that was happening. He said the phrase “Church planting’s the hardest thing I’ve ever done.” And I knew his back story and I said, I knew had been through somethings that I would assume are way harder than church planting and I asked him about that. And you’re going to hear what he has to say about it. So this is Kenneth Jones.

JOSH TURANSKY: Let’s jump right in.

CLINT CLIFTON: So, you want to lead your church to multiply. But in order to do that you have to raise up new potential leaders from inside your congregation. But how in the world are you supposed to do that with all the other plates you have spinning? Well, the North American Mission Board has created a tool to help you equip the saints for the work of the ministry. It’s called the multiplication pipeline. And it helps you identify and train missional leaders, potential church planters, and potential church planting team members from right there inside your own congregation. The pipeline starts with a simple assessment tool in a three-year online training system follows to equip missional leaders. Learn more about the multiplication pipeline by visiting their website namb.net/pipeline. That’s namb.net/pipeline.

CLINT CLIFTON: Kenneth, you and I think have known each other I don’t know for about 5 years or something

KENNETH JONES:  I think that’s about right.

CLINT CLIFTON: Yeah. And of all the church planters I know, you got an interesting back story. So I wanted to talk about you’re back story a little bit but can you just walk us through how you came to faith in Christ and what the circumstances of your life were when you came to faith in Christ? 

KENNETH JONES: Ah yeah. My upbringing is not at all in the church. Not at all religious. The funning thing, I had to say until I was 25, I really thought that Easter was just about bunnies and chocolates. I have no connection to the resurrection at all. Dad died when I was 8 years old and that left me with a pretty big hole in my heart and in my life led me to a life in high school and College in my mid 20s where I drank a ton. I did just about any drug you could think of. And, ended up in Georgia with a job as a sports caster at a television station in Maycomb Georgia. So, life seemed like it was going well. I graduated College somehow. I was actually doing the job the career what I wanted to do all my life. Got down there when I was 30 years old and life was going really well. And I guess I was about 8 months into my job decided to go out one night after work and drank until about 6 in the morning.

CLINT CLIFTON: And at that point in your life you were considering your drinking habit like. Would you consider yourself an alcoholic? Or it was…

KENNETH JONES:  Yeah. I would. Maybe by definition not necessarily. But I would definitely say I had an alcohol dependency issue and a drug dependency issue. And drank silly until early in the morning. And for some reason decided I would try to go home. On the way home I passed out behind the wheel, and swerved into oncoming traffic. And hit another car head on. And the woman in that car died on the scene. I don’t remember anything about that. I just remember waking up in the hospital and hearing that somebody had died. So yeah, life changed really quickly in that moment. Was out on bond for 6 months and was sentenced to spend 7 years in prison was the sentence. Ultimately got out in 4 ½ but went to prison. I want to get back to your question, how did I come to faith? So, Jesus is a big topic of conversation in prison. And for the first couple of years…

CLINT CLIFTON: What do you mean about that?

KENNETH JONES:  People just talked about Him a lot.


KENNETH JONES:  Inmates. In prison yeah. I’ll get a little bit more into that in a second. Yeah, He was just a big topic of conversation. I felt the people that were talking about Jesus were pretty crazy. Someone had shared the Gospel with me and I just said, “That’s the craziest thing I’ve ever heard.”

CLINT CLIFTON: Another inmate.

KENNETH JONES:  Yeah, another inmate had shared that with me. And then just timing, oh I might keep it a little brief here. But you know, things just kind of kept happening while I was in prison that I couldn’t ignore. Had been wrongfully accused of something and was going to be sent to a wing of the prison that I didn’t want to be in. I’ll just put it that way. And the guy who I had my detail with, went to back for me and got me out of that situation. I was, one of my details was as a firefighter, so I actually just get trained in firefighter 1, firefighter 2, first responder. While I was there, ran into a guy who said he was a Christian but read a lot of stuff on Buddhism. And I started reading things on Buddhism. And that gave me a spirituality without responsibility. And one of their tenants is to let go of your control issues. And so, I’m in the process of trying to let go of my control issues and it dawns on me is the reason why I’ve been so standoffish to this Jesus guy is because to embrace Christianity would be to embrace that I don’t have control. 

CLINT CLIFTON: So, you’re saying that in a sense Buddhism pointed you to Jesus? 

KENNETH JONES:  I’m saying that in a sense Buddhism pointed you to Jesus. God is great.

CLINT CLIFTON: That’s cookie. 

KENNETH JONES:  It’s cookie. But also, God can use whatever. Right? And so, see that kind of started the questions in my head. Again, a number of things kind of happened while I was in prison that began to weave questions in my head. I got transferred to a transitional center about three years into my time. And ran into a guy named Marquis Foster there. And again, he was a Christian. But he was younger than me. And he was wild so, we’ve had a lot of conversations. It was me trying to keep him out of trouble. Him basically talking to me about the credibility of scripture. And one day, we were walking to our detail and he just stopped in his tracks and he said “Man. You know it’s a real shame.” “What’s that?” He said, “You really have a heart that God could use if You just let Him.” And that sticks to me to this day. I was in my dorm room with 8 guys in there. And I was cleaning up getting ready for inspection. There was uhm…let me back track really quick, really quick. There was this moment of time months before that, when I came to that realization through Buddhism, this is why I’m not embracing Christianity. I said alright if it comes to me, I’ll investigate this Jesus. And so, months later I was in this transitional center and cleaning up ready for inspection. There’s a Bible sitting on the desk. And I said, “Hey! Who ever Bible this is, you got to put it in your locker. You can’t have it for inspection.” And nobody claimed the Bible. And one of the guys said, “Well, why don’t you read it?” And I remembered saying if it comes to me, I’ll investigate. And so, I said, “Ok. What should I do?” And one of the guys was like, “Well, today’s the first of the month. There’s 31 days this month. There’s 31 chapters in the book of Proverbs. Read the Proverbs.” So, here’s the gist, I’m getting discipled by a lot of prison inmates. Right? We spend a lot of time, I was joking, we spend a lot of time figuring out our best discipleship program and I got discipled by guys in prison. So I started reading Proverbs one a day and they would ask me, they’d have me read, and they’d ask me at the end of the night what’d I read and what I think. And eventually, literally they drugged me kicking and screaming to a Bible study that was happening at the center Tuesdays and Friday nights. And I was just…

CLINT CLIFTON: And why were you so resistant? Just the idea of you didn’t be one of those guys? Religious dude? You didn’t want to be a Jesus thumper?

KENNETH JONES:  Yeah. I mean, well I mean, my whole life I made fun of it. My whole life I mocked and laughed and it was beginning to make sense. But to cross that bridge to, literally what I say was, “Hey I hear that music you guys singing there, and that’s crazy. And I don’t want to do that.” And there was just a hurdle of alright reading. I’m there. That’s cool.  But to like to cross that bridge to go to a service, to listen to the music, to sing the music, was a little too weird. Yes, so I went into that bible study. And that was the first time that I’ve ever had somebody open the bible and teach me. 

CLINT CLIFTON: So that guy, Marquis you say his name was? 

KENNETH JONES:  Marquis Foster. Yeah.

CLINT CLIFTON: You have been in contact with him now?

KENNETH JONES: No. I’ve tried to look for him in Facebook and I can’t find him. I’ve called the prison system and I can’t find him.

CLINT CLIFTON: We have an incredibly large listening audience on this podcast. I mean millions and millions of people. So, I’m sure someone out there know Marquis. So just go ahead and let us know if you do.

KENNETH JONES:  That would be awesome. That would be awesome. Hey Marquis if you’re out there. 

CLINT CLIFTON: He’s probably out there listening right now. We’d love to connect with you Marquis.


CLINT CLIFTON: Ok so, you are coming alive to Jesus in prison and picked this for you.

KENNETH JONES: Yeah. So that was the spring of ’07 that the Lord found me. And just radically change my life forever. I mean obviously, and I know this may seem cliché, but obviously the concept of forgiveness is for someone who is sitting in a prison cell is a pretty big concept. But yeah, He radically changed my life. And that beautiful thing about it is that once I came to Jesus, I still had a year and a half left on my sentence. So, I got to spend a year and half with a bible and Jesus. And so, when I was about to get out, interestingly enough, the guys told me, “Hey when you get out make sure you find yourself a bible and believe in church.” And I was like, “Why would you need to tell me that?” And they were like “You’ll see.” And so, I have seen it. And I though I wanted to, I was like “Hey, I’m going to find myself a small church.” And the Lord in His humor and wisdom led me to North Point Community Church in Alpharetta Georgia which many people know probably one of the 5 largest churches. So, my hope in being in a small church was not granted. But it was a place for me to be. At that time, I was there for about 4 ½ years. And served in a various number of ministries there. And I remember the pastor there Andy preaching one time on Jonah. And he said, “You know, being in the belly of a large fish is probably the scariest, smelliest, darkest, place you could ever imagine being. But the scripture said God sent the fish for Jonah. And I remember thinking at that time that prison was my fish. And so, as you know the story of Jonah, right when Jonah gets out of his fish he says, “God whatever You want me to do I will do.” And I always say, “I don’t want to turn into Jonah 4. But God whatever you want me to do. And so yeah, in 2012 my time, my kind of part time position at North Point that internship had ended. And around the same time was when the Lord was calling me to plant a church in Washington DC through various conversations, from different calls. Yeah so, I packed my bags in January 2013. Had zero plan of what I was going to do. Was scared to death. And the Lord provided me with a job as a young adult youth pastor in Crofton Maryland. Started there in May 2013. Was just looking for our young adults to do something for young adults to serve. Literally I was just starting the ministry they didn’t have it there. And got connected to a guy, a pastor in Annapolis Maryland and had lunch with him. Was sharing this same story with him and he said, “You really need to talk to my friend Mark.” And I said, “Why is that?” He said, “Well I happen to be part of a church planting network. And Mark is our director I think you need to talk to him.” 

CLINT CLIFTON: And so that was you’re step in to the church planting world. Fast forward to your church planting story which is fascinating but just for the sake of time, you know are leading a church that you helped or found.

KENNETH JONES:  Yeah yeah. So, by God‘s grace, right that was 2014 and now yeah redeemers city church is a reality. And through network sites North American Mission World and Sent Network and so we started that church in September of 2014. And by God’s grace we’re still alive today

CLINT CLIFTON: Yeah. And you’re in the district which if you’re not familiar with Washington, it’s pretty small geographically. So, you’re inside the district. Tell us about your neighborhood.

KENNETH JONES: Yeah. We are in North West; I mean North East DC in a neighborhood called Brook land. Pretty diverse neighborhood it‘s looks like most of DC, it’s kind of in the process of gentrifying. Yeah so pretty diverse neighborhood. And by God’s grace we look like our community. And so, we love celebrating our diversity. Yeah, the neighborhood is about 2 miles east of the Maryland border and just north of the capital.

CLINT CLIFTON: And so, it’s a pretty residential area part of the city.

KENNETH JONES: It doesn’t look like where we are right now. Yeah. That’s one of our focuses right now. It’s how do we reach families. Because it’s a very family-oriented location.

CLINT CLIFTON:  And you meet in a school.

KENNETH JONES: Yeah. It’s been a blessing that God has given us a place in Brook land to meet at a pretty good price.

CLINT CLIFTON: So, isn’t it like crazy cheap?

KENNETH JONES: Oh, crazy cheap. I’m not, I’m not going to...could I say it?


KENNETH JONES: We pay about $25.00 a week.

CLINT CLIFTON: That’s about a $100 a month. That’s a pretty good deal

KENNETH JONES: Yeah. What we really do is we cut them a check once a year for $2000.00 and that’s it.

CLINT CLIFTON: That’s incredible. Really. Yeah. Well there’s a lot of very angry church planters listening right now. 

KENNETH JONES: That’s why I was like “Are you sure you want me to say it?”

CLINT CLIFTON: Yeah. No. I want you to say it. You must be living right? You know? 

CLINT CLIFTON: Ok, so you know, but, the church planting journey hasn’t exactly been easy for you, you guys have been there and growth has been slow and difficulty. And probably I’m imagining your like most church planters the kind of expectations you have for what it would look like at year 5 or 6 are way different from what they’re actually are. So how you dealt with the difficulties in church planting? 

KENNETH JONES: Yeah. You’re absolutely right. It’s been, it’s been a roller coaster ride. It’s been a lot of up and down. It’s uhm…so, part of the story of kind of back story of me feeling called to church plant is, I was sitting at lunch with one guy. I’m answering your question trust me. I was sitting at lunch with a guy in Georgia and it was in that conversation that he was really calling me and go and plant a church in DC. And I was like, “Wait a minute. It sounds like you want me to move now and not in like four years which was what my plan was.” And he said, “Well, KJ yeah. Absolutely.” He said, “This will be the hardest thing you’ve ever done. But I’m looking in your eyes and I’m listening to your heart and I can tell that this is something that Jesus had put in your heart. And what I started thinking was, “Well, this guy doesn’t know I’ve been to prison. This surely isn’t going to be the hardest thing I’ve ever done.” But fast forward 5 years, he was right. It’s the hardest thing I’ve ever done. 

CLINT CLIFTON: So, you’re a guy who spent almost 5 years in prison. And you’ve been church planting for almost 5 years. And you’re saying now ‘Yeah. You’re right. The 4 ½ years I’ve done in prison were not as tough as the last 5 years.

KENNETH JONES:  Yeah. In a lot of ways.

CLINT CLIFTON: That’s crazy.


CLINT CLIFTON: Yeah. So, what are those ways? Let’s talk specifically about what it has been, what specifically has been so challenging about church planting? 

KENNETH JONES: Yeah, well like what you said, it’s been a lot of up and down. You know? The first couple of years were really really hard. I think in terms of church planting, like there’s just this constant, a constant grind. If we’re comparing it to prison there’s a more constant grind. Emotional, financial, spiritual, there’s a day in day out grind where as in prison really kind of your day is set for you. I think read somewhere sometime that like when you’re in prison, and this is not the little prison, when you’re in prison, you make about 50 decisions a day. And when your out of prison, you make upwards of over 500 decisions a day. And so there’s just this greater grind…

CLINT CLIFTON: And then when your church planting you make about 5000 a day.

KENNETH JONES: Yeah, yeah exactly. So, there’s that. Right? And I sometimes say, jokingly, like when I was in prison I knew when the time was going to end. And church planting I don’t know when the time is going to end. 

CLINT CLIFTON: Yeah. So, your sentence just keeps on going.

KENNETH JONES: Yeah, your sentence just keeps on going. Like when I was in prison, I had 4 and a half years, here we’re already 5 years in and we’re still going. And I say that jokingly, but here’s the thing right here. Right? As I think about that right? Paul said, “Do not go weary in doing good.” And I think he says that because it can be wearying to do good. Like Paul the church planter himself. Often, he says, ‘Do not go weary in doing good.” And again, yeah, in prison, the time is finite unless your life sentence. But the work of church planting and growing churches and multiplying churches we do until Jesus comes back. And so, yeah. Do not go weary in doing good. Uhm, I think that in other ways, right? Church planting actually like, it highlights my own sin. What’s been difficult for me is really understanding that I’m not in control. I’ve realized what Jesus has taught me in my church planting journey is that, I’m not in control. And I struggle with that a lot. Like you said, the expectation of what’s going to happen versus what actually happens, teaches you a lot that you’re not in control. And, you know? I can beat my head against the wall and I can try to figure out all these different ways to do different things or to bring more people. But ultimately, if Jesus isn’t doing that then it’s not happening. And then the other thing is, one of the really crazy things that I experience from going being in prison to coming out of prison but I think just makes…helps me realize the difficulty of spiritual life in this world. Is that when I got out of prison, I recognized how loud this world is. Like I said, when I was in prison I came to Christ. I had about a year and a half left where I just had so much quiet. And it was just me, and Jesus, and his Words. And out here the world lulls you into this idea that the hecticness, the loudness, the fast-paced living is normal. And then we get into church planting and we’ve got meetings, we’ve got places we need to be, and all these different things that are going on when you need to get ready for Sunday. We need vision casting, we need the raise and support, we need all these different things. And I think that we can really really really miss out on the importance of being still and being quiet. And so, for all of those reasons, I need to get back to answering your question, for all of those reasons, in many ways, church planting has been harder than being in prison

CLINT CLIFTON: Well I think that’s discouraging, I think? 

KENNETH JONES:  That would be encouraging.

CLINT CLIFTON: Yeah. So applying that to the two probably most likely groups of people who are listening to this today. Group 1 would be those guys who are intending to start a church. What do you want them to hear from what you just said? 

KENNETH JONES:  Man, stay connected to Jesus. I think that in a lot of ways we can begin to believe that we are the primary reason for the rise and fall of our church. And what I recognized in just a couple of months ago as I was kind of processing through a lot of this with a friend of mine is, so on the bad, I mean their both bad, so on the negative side of it I guess is, if I’m thinking ‘cause our church was struggling to grow, if I’m thinking that reason the ultimate reason that we’re not growing is because of me, then Lord willing if we do go I’ll also think it’s because of me. And so, learning to, learning to walk in the causal understanding we have responsibilities as church planters. But understanding that ultimately Jesus is the one who builds this Church. So, we really need to stay connected to Him, and allow Him to take the reigns of the process. Allow Him to be our coach, to be our guide to remind us how he has shaped us. Because, especially for someone like me, it’s easy for me to look around at what’s happening in the church planting world, and try to be someone I’m not. 

CLINT CLIFTON: And the second most likely person who is listening is the guy who is in the same situation you’re in basically. They’ve been working, laboring, and they’re coming face to face with reality that church planting is really challenging. And so what do you say to that guy?

KENNETH JONES:  Yeah. I’m with you brother. It is challenging. But man, it’s worth it. You know I’ve had morning, Monday mornings where I’ll wake up and I sit on my couch and I wonder if there is anything else, I can do? Is there anything else I can do? And what typically happens is I’m like, “Well, I could plant another church.” And then I’m like “Well, why don’t I just really, just try where I’m already in?” And so, I would just say, like we said earlier in the other one, stay connected to Jesus. Do not grow weary in doing good. I think that it can be easy to, again it can be easy to look around and see other churches growing faster. Other churches just seemingly doing a whole lot better. And what I tend to remind myself in those moments, I’ll be honest, I struggle with comparison. But one of the things I remind myself in those moments that I remember Jesus walking with Peter in John 21. When he’s telling Peter all of the things that he’s going to go through. All the things that he’s going to suffer for Christ, and Peter turns and sees John, and he says “What about him?” and Jesus says, “What does it matter to you what I do with him? I’m talking to you.” And so, if you’re out there, a struggling church planter, like I know it’s hard not to compare. But yeah, John got to live ‘till his 90s and write Revelations. And Peter’s life was different. But both lives glorified God.  

CLINT CLIFTON: You know, one thing that I get to see now in the role that I’m in that I didn’t get to see when I was a church planter, that I wish every church planter could see is that, no matter how good it’s going in any particular church plant every church planter feels the same. Like, I can’t emphasize enough the feelings and the experiences and the emotions of church planting are the same for the seemingly successful church planter as they are for the seemingly very unsuccessful church planter. And uhm, it’s like a 31:00 vakinghim condition I guess. So, you know, it’s like a carryout in front of us. We’re never satisfied with what it is the Lord has sent out, or our expectations are never quite met. So anyway, so I think the listeners in the service if we didn’t at least let them know how the situation ended up with how the Lord used the wreck and prison in your life. Just wrap that story up for us in some way.

KENNETH JONES: Yeah, yeah. So uhm, I think so, one of the things a couple of months ago, a conviction that I had is that the Lord said to me, “Lead the way I need you.”  Right? And so, that has transformed the way that I’m leading my church and we are now getting involved in prison ministry. We are actually throwing an angel tree Christmas party event. In about a week in December 13th for kids who have parents who are incarcerated. Getting our church mobilized towards prison ministry. We’re getting involved with CSOSA which is a reentry organization in DC. Beginning to mentor guys who are coming out of the system. And our hope, our goal, our vision I believe the vision that God has given me just recently is that within the next 5 years we would have a three-bedroom unit in which we could have a transitional housing for people coming out of the prison system. As well as a non-profit job placement program and a non-profit counseling center. ‘Cause basically what I thought about in prayer is, what are the things that I needed coming out of prison? And it was housing, it was a job, and it was a community around me.

CLINT CLIFTON: And that’s incredible. So, there’s somebody listening today who resonates to that, that they want to help in some way, how can they get in touch with you? What’s the best way to do that?

KENNETH JONES: Yeah. I would say through our website – redeemerdc.org. You can email info@redeemerdc.org. That email will get to me. I would love to talk to you if you’re someone who says “Hey! I can provide that housing.” “I can rent a grant.” Or “I can do whatever. I just want to help fund that. I’d love to talk to you.”   

CLINT CLIFTON: That’s great man.

KENNETH JONES: Yeah, that’s great.

CLINT CLIFTON: Well I appreciate you KJ. Thank you so much for taking the time. I know it’s a little vulnerable sharing all that personal information about yourself but I have been benefited from your story and seeing God’s grace in your life so thank you. 

KENNETH JONES: Well thank you. 


CLINT CLIFTON: Hey Josh. We got to figure out how to get people to write reviews. How do we do it?

JOSH TURANSKY: Yes. That means we need to motivate people to take action. You know that’s why podcast have such a hard time. ‘Cause we just don’t do stuff. 

CLINT CLIFTON: Yeah it is. And I don’t either…

JOSH TURANSKY: They’re driving right now on the freeway. They can’t leave a review. 

CLINT CLIFTON: I listen to podcast all the time and I don’t think I’ve ever written a review. Yet I find myself in this position. Like, we really really need people to write reviews.

JOSH TURANSKY: We do. And we just kind of, we have a new feed tool. We kind updated some stuff that might be hurting our algorithm a little bit in iTunes. So we really need reviews.

CLINT CLIFTON: Yeah. We do and I don’t know what to do. Maybe we should just pray that God could convince other people. And cause them to go. Another thing they could do is go on our Facebook page and like it. And there’s actually reviews on our feed. You can put a review on our Facebook page. You know? And that’s a good place to go to. That’s all we have to say.


ALBERT: Thank you for listening to the church planting podcast. Don’t forget to subscribe and leave a review of your favorite podcast today.

JOSH TURANSKY: Today’s episode of the church planting podcast is sponsored by New City Network, The Church Planting Ministry of McClain Bible. A special thanks to today’s guest Kenneth Jones for taking time to join us. Josh Turansky produces todays show. Zukey Bastien was our show runner and her husband Nick was our editor. Thanks to Hudson Turansky and Marvin Moore who provided administrative and web support for the program and last but not least thanks to you for listening through to the end of the church planting podcast. Hey if you’d like to know more information about the show visit our brand-new website www.churchplantingpodcast.org. There you can see past episodes as well as notes as links for today’s show. Be sure to tune in next week as we sit down with Mayor Kevin Brown to discuss what pastors need to know about mayors.

Dec 11 2019 · 36mins
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Randall Kenneth Jones Hijacks the Show

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In this special episode of Unstructured, Randall Kenneth Jones interviews me. We talk about why I have several interviews in the can and more.

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Sep 06 2019 · 36mins
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Kenneth Jones: Controversy that Leads to Opportunities for Growth

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Kenneth Jones is a recent high school graduate in the community who was involved in a confrontational incident at school during his senior year. Video of the incident went viral, and Kenneth talks with Cece and Wayland about his experience in the aftermath, as well as the opportunities for growth that can arise from addressing mistakes head on.

Aug 22 2019 · 54mins
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88: Kenneth Jones and The Repertory Theatre of St. Louis's "Alabama Story"

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Deborah Sharn spoke with playwright Kenneth Jones who wrote ALABAMA STORY currently playing at The Repertory Theatre of St. Louis through January 27th in St. Louis.

Deborah and Kenneth talked about the play, his writing process and his journey with ALABAMA STORY.

Jan 09 2019 · 20mins
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Black Urban America With Kenneth Jones, MSW and Kendra Gatling

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Join QueenMother4real Media's Black Urban America show every Tuesday at 10AM EST . Call 3479890180 to listen and speak with Kenneth Jones MSW the host of Black Urban America and his weekly guests. Black Urban America show is committed to bringing guests with solutions to the many problems in Black Urban America. On Tuesday, February 2nd at 10 AM EST,    Kendra Gatling former Gang Member and a Anti-Gang Activist comes on to discuss a critical issue of "Gang Violence in Black America. Each week Black Urban America bring Guests on air to talk about solutions to the problems that we all care about. Please call in with all your questions and commentary. We value your voice to help support people that care about Black Urban America
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