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24 of The Best Podcast Episodes for Jen Gotch. A collection of podcasts episodes with or about Jen Gotch, often where they are interviewed.

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24 of The Best Podcast Episodes for Jen Gotch. A collection of podcasts episodes with or about Jen Gotch, often where they are interviewed.

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Jen Gotch on overcoming productivity-shame and embracing inconsistencies

Routines & Ruts
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Update:  As racist and bullying behaviour has come into light since the recording of this episode with Jen Gotch, it is important to add the caveat that this behaviour is not endorsed or supported. 

Open to listening and learning on this, and my thinking around leaving the episode up (to date) has been to focus on looking forward and taking action on what I can change – asking harder questions about equality, diversity, and human rights, curating more BIPOC guests, and looking more broadly not just at our creative lives, but our entire lives to dig deeper. 

People must be held accountable for their hurtful and damaging behaviour, and also commit to growth, reflection and positive change rather than simply be deleted or cancelled – Jameela Jamil offers good food for thought on this. For now, I will leave this podcast up as a marker of growth as an interviewer, and hopefully to one day see how far workplaces and societies have come. 

In this conversation, we talk about mental health, solitude, the book writing process, self-doubt, how we don’t have to feel bad about inconsistency, being actively not busy, giving ourselves grace, the myth of perfectionism and how enjoyment can be found in the most unlikely places and times. 

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This podcast is produced, edited and mixed by Madeleine Dore using Hindenburg. Special thanks to Nelson Dore for the theme music and Ellen Porteus for the cover art.

Apr 26 2020



Ep 117: Scheduling Joy with Jen Gotch

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*In June 2020 Jen Gotch resigned from her position as Chief Creative Officer at after allegations came to light of racism within the company and by Jen herself. When this episode aired, we were unaware of the climate at, and hope that the company and Jen will follow through on their promises to create a more respectful and inclusive workplace. We’ve left this episode up to maintain transparency with listeners.

Kate starts playing Animal Crossing to relax and struggles with diet culture messaging during social distancing, and Doree begins to plan for Henry’s first birthday, quarantine-style. Then they're joined by Jen Gotch, co-founder of and author of The Upside of Being Down, who discusses her mental health and therapy journey, why she schedules fun on her calendar, how she's embraced aging, and why “Desert Jen” is an entirely different person than “LA Jen.”

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Apr 16 2020

1hr 1min


Jen Gotch On Cultivating Optimism, Using Anxiety As A Superpower, and Dealing with Acne & Aging With Grace

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This episode features the amazing Jen Gotch, and I think it’s actually the perfect episode for this strange time. Jen is the Chief Creative Officer and co-founder of Ban.Do, and the author of the new memoir The Upside of Being Down. On this episode, we talk about:

  • Her mental health journey, including the various tools that have actually helped with her depression & anxiety
  • How she created a workplace where people can cry
  • How people can approach mental health struggles in a workplace
  • Jen’s divorce plus dating in your 40s
  • How to make good girlfriends as an adult
  • Her unique approach to networking and how it’s benefitted her in her career
  • How she cultivates her optimistic perspective and how other people can too
  • Her relationship to her looks, including aging and acne, and how she finds confidence through it all (including her thoughts on Botox and fillers)

You can find Jen on Instagram @jengotch, and I’m of course @lizmoody. Screenshot and tag us both with your thoughts, feelings, and reactions to this episode!


PS: Healthier Together is officially a number one best-seller! You can get your copy on Amazon or at  Please keep sending me your creations on Instagram—they make me so happy!

This episode is sponsored by Simple Mills, a company whose grain-free products I’m obsessed with. In this episode, I talk about the baking mixes specifically (the brownie mix, vanilla cake mix, and pizza crust!), which you can order on Amazon and find in most grocery stores.

This episode is sponsored by Pukka, one of my favorite tea brands. They make incredible herbal teas with 100% organic ingredients, and they’re also certified Fair for Life. Beyond that, the Pukka bags are fully plastic free, and stitched together with 100% organic, non-GMO cotton. My favorite blends are Relax, After Dinner, and Tulsi Clarity, and Zack loves the Revitalize blend. You can find out more about Pukka at

Healthier Together cover art by Zack Mitchell. Healthier Together music by Alex Ruimy.

Apr 01 2020

1hr 57mins


Ep. 309 - Jen Gotch on The Upside of Being Down

Almost 30
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Jen Gotch joined us just over a year ago for a really important conversation about mental health, figuring yourself out, and self-care. Jen is a huge expander for a lot of us in Almost 30 Nation — Krista and Lindsey included! — so we had to have her back for round two to discuss her powerful new book. The Upside of Being Down is an honest account of Jen’s mental health struggles and how that long journey, with all its ups and downs, led to her greatest successes in work and life. She is so inspiring and unapologetic about her life + gives a fresh take on what it’s like being a constant internal battle. We dive deep into what it’s like to push yourself in your career without sacrificing self-care, opening yourself up to receiving praise, and the value of learning to quit things just to prove to yourself that you can.

We also talk about:

  • Coming back to compassion
  • Not changing yourself for others
  • Opening up + being able to receive
  • Self-care, self-love, + self-help
  • Being able to separate yourself from negative thoughts
  • Coping with emotional eating
  • Changing your relationship with alcohol

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Mar 24 2020

1hr 14mins

Play Founder Jen Gotch on Anxiety and the Power of Mini Vacations

Women Who Travel
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At 19, Jen Gotch had a panic attack in the airport, just ahead of boarding a flight back to college. "I, on a cellular level, felt like I was going to die if I got on that airplane," says the founder and author of the soon-to-be-released Upside of Being Down: How Mental Health Struggles Led to My Greatest Successes in Work and Life. Now, years later and hundreds of flights under her belt, that anxiety has shifted, evolved, and—most recently—waned, as she's found strategies to stay calm on the road. (One life-changing tool? TSA PreCheck.) This week, we sat down with Jen to talk through how she continues to tackle her travel anxiety, why vacations (even if they're just on our own couches) are good for our mental health, and why she stopped working on her days off. 

Find a link to preorder Jen's book, out March 24, and a full transcription of the episode here:

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Mar 11 2020



Jen Gotch, @Michael & Dairy Queen?

Who? Weekly
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Today on Who's There, our weekly call-in show where we answer your questions, comments, and concerns, we chat quickly about Selena Gomez's new song (mouth noises) and Kesha's new song (instantly iconic) before taking comments about the Paddington Pooper, Dairy Queen (aka Dennis Quaid), and the ubiquitous Pokemon Go spon. After those six hours fly by, we move on to questions, and hoooooo boy are these a doozy. First up is an exploration of a mysterious man who's friends with seemingly every Who we've ever talked about. He goes by @Michael on Instagram, and, yes, we found him. (With the help of a very talented friend.) Then we pivot to Australia's Masked Singer, where Lindsay Lohan has somehow found herself asking Cody Simpson about furniture. Finally, we talk about Jen Gotch, the founder who would like you all to start crying at work.

Call 619.WHO.THEM to leave us a voicemail, and we might address it on a future show! Until Tuesday, crunch crunch.

Oct 25 2019



S2 Ep. 23 Jen Gotch:, Mental Health, Authenticity

Raising the Bar with Alli and Michael
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Don't ask Jen Gotch how to describe her 11-year-old business What began as a hair accessories company has evolved into a lifestyle brand that can be found at more than 3,000 department stores and boutiques around the world and count Starbucks and Taylor Swift as collaborators. Jen has evolved, too. As a co-founder, chief creative officer, mental health advocate, and now, author, Jen joined her old pals Michael and Alli in front of a live audience at the Grove to get real about mental health (duh), creative entrepreneurship, and how her brand can stand for more than just fun. Keep up with Jen at @jengotch and @shopbando. And don't forget to follow @alliwebb for #BTS of Raising The Bar and subscribe and rate us!

Sep 06 2019



Surviving Your 20s, Mental Health & the Benefits of Success Later in Life

Unleash Your Inner Creative with Lauren LoGrasso
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Jen Gotch is the Chief Creative Officer of, a writer, podcaster, mental health advocate,  influencer and one of the most creative humans out there. Today she joins the podcast to share her insight on surviving your 20s, the power of claiming the word 'creative', the link between creativity & mental health and the benefits of having success later in life. Jen and also Lauren discuss the pain and joy of leading a creative life and being a human, in general. 


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Feb 19 2019

1hr 8mins

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Jen Gotch is no stranger to sharing her struggles. In her quest to make people feel less lonely, she explains how sharing her struggles publicly has actually helped her become stronger in the long run, and how changing the dialog surrounding mental health can help us all.


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Nov 13 2018



MINISODE 9: Jen Gotch Live from the WorkParty Tour

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Welcome to the WorkPartyTour minisodes. In this minisode we’re bringing the party to you straight from the WorkPartyTour stage in Nashville with Jen Gotch, Founder of Whether you’re running the show or balancing your side hustles, stay tuned for the real-talk business advice you need. Be sure to follow the party on social @workparty and get the latest updates at   Guest Information:   Jen Gotch: ban.do   Host:   Jaclyn Johnson: Instagram:   Episode Resources:

Oct 21 2018