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Meet Creativity Strategist Natalie Nixon

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“Inspiration exists, but it has to find you working” - Natalie NixonOur guest today is Creativity Strategist Natalie Nixon who is known as the creativity whisperer for the C-suite. Natalie is CEO of Figure 8 Thinking, and in addition to being a creativity strategist she is a global keynote speaker, and author of the award winning The Creativity Leap: Unleash Curiosity, Improvisation and Intuition at Work. Natalie advises Fortune 500 leaders on transformation by applying wonder and rigor to amplify growth and business value. Natalie has won a slew of awards, and is also an accomplished dancer. You can learn more about Natalie, and check out her moves by following the links below. Have a question or comment? Email us at themanifista@gmail.com.Resources Mentioned The Creativity Leap: Unleash Curiosity, Improvisation, and Intuition at Work by Natalie NixonFigure Eight Thinking Natalie Nixon on LinkedIn Natalie Nixon on Instagram The Extended Mind by Annie Murphy Paul A More Beautiful Question by Warren BergerThe Wonder Rigor Lab Your “invisible work” is key to your most productive self article by Natalie NixonEssentialism: The Disciplined Pursuit of Less by Greg McKeownFind Your Unicorn Space by Eve Rodsky


15 Jun 2022

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Love, Loathing, & A Life of Creativity (ft. Natalie Nixon)

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Love, Loathing, & A Life of Creativity (ft. Natalie Nixon)Finding space to imagine, creating space for who you are, and much more. OPENING QUOTE:“I was really paying attention to the emotional connection I had to this work, where the best I can describe it is that I feel energetically, my body is humming when I'm on stage. I feel vibrant. I feel alive. And I feel happy when I'm connecting to people through these ideas through the medium of speaking.” -Natalie NixonGUEST BIO:Natalie Nixon is known as the Creativity Whisperer to the C-Suite, and is a highly successful author and keynote speaker. Before making the leap to full-time speaking, she was a cultural anthropologist, PhD in Design Thinking, accomplished dancer, and a professor for 16 years.Links:WebsiteTwitterLinkedInCORE TOPICS & DETAILS:[9:28] - Reaching the Head and the HeartHow Natalie connects intellectually and emotionally with audiencesAmong sometimes unrealistic expectations from clients, Natalie has learned to balance emotionally resonant performances with intellectually stimulating and challenging ones. While she’s a natural performer, she recognizes that truly impactful ideas are what transform audiences— not just flashy performances.[20:38] - Natalie’s Favorite QuestionNatalie’s surprising pre-event question for clientsNatalie’s clients are often shocked when she asks them, “What does success look like to you?” In an industry where speakers can sometimes focus too much on themselves, the best in the business make the satisfaction and success of their clients and audiences the center point of any engagement.[30:23] - Cultivating CreativitySurprising (and surprisingly simple) insights for increased innovation“Create space and time,” Natalie says when asked about fostering creativity. What does she mean by that? She means that you have to prioritize creative thought in your life— it won’t make time for itself. Schedule time in your calendar to think creatively, ask big questions, and move above the day-to-day rigors of your life to tap into your innovative abilities.[31:56] - The Loathe/Love AuditA powerful exercise anyone can use todayTake out a blank piece of paper and draw a line down the center. Set a timer and write out everything you loathe about your current state— life, career, pursuits— that you loathe. Then take the same amount of time and write everything you love about your current state on the other side. At the end, you’ll discover that either you can make changes in your life to reduce the things you loathe without losing the things you love— or you already have achieved a great balance and should have the confidence to carry on.[38:52] - Black Woman Speaker: Opportunities and ChallengesA powerful perspective on leading as a black woman in the industryIn a world with a range of perspectives on how much someone’s race, cultural background, or other characteristics should influence their work, Natalie knows just where she stands. “I love being Black. I love being a woman.” Because of her perspectives, she never ignores those lenses. Instead, she allows them to deepen and enhance her messages. That includes acknowledging the way being both Black and a woman have created unique challenges in her life and career. RESOURCES:[14:30] About Strategic Design[26:466] Figure8Thinking.com[34:31] A More Beautiful Question, by Warren BergerFollow Natalie Nixon:WebsiteTwitterLinkedInFollow Josh Linkner:FacebookLinkedInInstagramTwitterYouTubeABOUT MIC DROP:Brought to you by eSpeakers, hear from the world’s top thought leaders and experts, sharing tipping point moments, strategies, and approaches that led to their speaking career success. Throughout each episode, host Josh Linkner, #1 Innovation keynote speaker in the world, deconstructs guests’ Mic Drop moments and provides tactical tools and takeaways that can be applied to any speaking business, no matter it’s starting point. You'll enjoy hearing from some of the top keynote speakers in the industry including: Ryan Estis, Alison Levine, Peter Sheahan, Seth Mattison, Cassandra Worthy, and many more. Mic Drop is produced and presented by eSpeakers; sponsored by 3 Ring Circus.Learn more at: MicDropPodcast.comABOUT THE HOST:Josh Linkner is a Creative Troublemaker. He believes passionately that all human beings have incredible creative capacity, and he’s on a mission to unlock inventive thinking and creative problem solving to help leaders, individuals, and communities soar. Josh has been the founder and CEO of five tech companies, which sold for a combined value of over $200 million and is the author of four books including the New York Times Bestsellers, Disciplined Dreaming and The Road to Reinvention. He has invested in and/or mentored over 100 startups and is the Founding Partner of Detroit Venture Partners.Today, Josh serves as Chairman and Co-founder of Platypus Labs, an innovation research, training, and consulting firm. He has twice been named the Ernst & Young Entrepreneur of the Year and is the recipient of the United States Presidential Champion of Change Award. Josh is also a passionate Detroiter, the father of four, is a professional-level jazz guitarist, and has a slightly odd obsession with greasy pizza. Learn more about Josh: JoshLinkner.comABOUT eSPEAKERS:When the perfect speaker is in front of the right audience, a kind of magic happens where organizations and individuals improve in substantial, long-term ways. eSpeakers exists to make this happen more often. eSpeakers is where the speaking industry does business on the web. Speakers, speaker managers, associations, and bureaus use our tools to organize, promote and grow successful businesses. Event organizers think of eSpeakers first when they want to hire speakers for their meetings or events.The eSpeakers Marketplace technology lets us and our partner directories help meeting professionals all over the world connect directly with speakers for great engagements. Thousands of successful speakers, trainers, and coaches use eSpeakers to build their businesses and manage their calendars. Thousands of event organizers use our directories every day to find and hire speakers. Our tools are built for speakers, by speakers, to do things that only purpose-built systems can.Learn more at: eSpeakers.comSPONSORED BY 3 RING CIRCUS:From refining your keynote speaking skills to writing marketing copy, from connecting you with bureaus to boosting your fees, to developing high-quality websites, producing head-turning demo reels, 3 Ring Circus offers a comprehensive and powerful set of services to help speakers land more gigs at higher fees. Learn more at: 3RingCircus.comPRODUCED BY DETROIT PODCAST STUDIOS:In Detroit, history was made when Barry Gordy opened Motown Records back in 1960. More than just discovering great talent, Gordy built a systematic approach to launching superstars. His rigorous processes, technology, and development methods were the secret sauce behind legendary acts such as The Supremes, Stevie Wonder, Marvin Gaye, Diana Ross and Michael Jackson.As a nod to the past, Detroit Podcast Studios leverages modern versions of Motown’s processes to launch today’s most compelling podcasts. What Motown was to musical artists, Detroit Podcast Studios is to podcast artists today. With over 75 combined years of experience in content development, audio production, music scoring, storytelling, and digital marketing, Detroit Podcast Studios provides full-service development, training, and production capabilities to take podcasts from messy ideas to finely tuned hits. Here’s to making (podcast) history together.Learn more at: DetroitPodcastStudios.comSHOW CREDITS:Josh Linkner: Host | josh@joshlinkner.comJoe Heaps: eSpeakers | JHeaps@eSpeakers.comConnor Trombley: Executive Producer | connor@DetroitPodcastStudios.com


27 Apr 2022

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045. Natalie Nixon: The Dance of Creativity


TODAY'S GUEST Dr. Natalie Nixon is a creativity strategist, global keynote speaker, and author of the award-winning The Creativity Leap: Unleash Curiosity, Improvisation, and Intuition at Work. As president of Figure 8 Thinking, she advises leaders on transformation by applying wonder and rigor to amplify growth and business value. Natalie's been featured in Forbes, Fast Company, LinkedIn’s "Hello Monday" podcast, and Seth Godin’s "Akimbo" podcast. She lives in Philadelphia with her husband, John, and is a lifelong student of dance—hip-hop and social ballroom of late.EPISODE SUMMARY In this conversation we talk about: Learning patience and flexibility through her COVID experience. Growing up as a sensitive kid in Philly, and moving to a rough public school there and how that affected her.  How her father's love of jazz and her mother's love of opera and classical music brought her closer to a world of art and creativity. Studying anthropology and Africana studies, and how she ending up getting a PhD in design management in London. The difference between being artistic vs being creative. Why strategy is creative, and why creativity is strategic. How we all have a creative capacity. The role of chaos in creativity. Her book, The Creativity Leap. How dance and design thinking are related, and what she learned about design and creativity from ballroom dancing and hip-hop. Embracing difference as a part of the creative process. And how we need people around that will ask different questions than we would. This is one of a dozen or so weekly conversations we already have lined up for you with thinkers, designers, makers, authors, entrepreneurs, and investors, who are working to change our world for the better. So follow this podcast on your favorite podcast app or head over to remakepod.org to subscribe. And now let's jump right in with Dr. Natalie Nixon. TIMESTAMP CHAPTERS [4:17] Life During COVID [9:09] Early Childhood Driving Forces [16:31] An Academic Background [21:51] Strategy is Creative [27:06] Toggling Between Wonder and Rigor [32:25] Chaordic Systems [36:17] Gifts of Dance [41:49] Becoming the Movement [44:18] Creative Abrasion [47:10] A Short Sermon EPISODE LINKS Natalie's Links 8️⃣ Figure 8 Thinking 📘 The Creativity Leap: Unleash Curiosity, Improvisation, and Intuition at Work 📘 Strategic Design Thinking: Innovation in Products, Services, Experiences and Beyond 🎤 TED Talk - 7 Rules for Improvising at Work 🎤 TED Talk - The Nudge Imperative 💼 LinkedIn: LinkedIn Profile 📣 Twitter: @natwnixon 📺 YouTube Channel Other Links 📚 Free Library of Philadelphia 🍸 Silk City 🎧 Akimbo - A Podcast from Seth Godin 🏫 Shenkar College of Engineering, Design, and Art 👚 The Limited 👙 Victoria's Secret 🏫 Thomas Jefferson University 🛏️ The Ritz-Carlton 💳 Visa 📕 Dancing Culture Religion (Studies in Body and Religion) by Sam Gill 🚗 Nissan 🚀 NASA 🎤 TED Talk - Alain de Botton ABOUT US Remake Podcast: Visit us: RemakePod.org 🙏🏻 Rate the show on iTunes 🙏🏻 Support us! Join the Podcast Member community 💌 Share your thoughts: podcast@remakelabs.com 👉 Listen or Subscribe to the show: Apple Podcasts・Google Podcasts・RadioPublic・Overcast・Stitcher・PocketCasts・Castro・SoundCloud・Spotify・YouTube・Deezer Remake Labs:  RemakeLabs.com・Medium・LinkedIn・Community・Twitter・Facebook・Instagram Eran Dror:  EranDror.com・LinkedIn・Twitter・Medium


21 Apr 2022

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Leap into creativity | Natalie Nixon

The Artists of Data Science

Support the show: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/datascienceharp Find Natalie online: https://www.figure8thinking.com/about/ Watch the video of this episode: https://youtu.be/3Dr7OcyQj1M Highlights of the show: [00:01:32] Guest Introduction [00:03:34] Where did you grow up and what was it like there? [00:08:04] Talk to us about the idea of “indoctrination to education”. [00:12:35] Your interesting ‘creativity research’, when did that start? How did your interest in that get sparked? [00:18:24] How can we make creativity more accessible and not just something that feels like it's in the domain of artsy people? [00:23:15] What is your definition of creativity? [00:27:27] Discuss the aspect of wonder and rigour. [00:29:09] What's wrong with the way that we're currently asking questions? [00:38:17] Walk us through what design thinking is and how does that help us be more creative? [00:40:58] What is divergent and convergent thinking? [00:50:47] Talk to us about the remix, the reframe and repurpose. How they help play a role in being creative? [00:53:04] Talk to us about 'Fashion thinking'. [00:56:20] It is 100 years in the future. What could it be remembered for? Random Round [00:57:13] What are you currently reading? [00:57:37] What song do you currently have on repeat? [00:58:22] What's the best thing you got from one of your parents? [00:58:31] In your group of friends, what role do you play? [00:58:41] What fictional place would you most like to go to? [00:59:02] Pizza or tacos? Don't forget to register for regular office hours by The Artists of Data Science: http://bit.ly/adsoh Register for Sunday Sessions here: http://bit.ly/comet-ml-oh Listen to the latest episode: https://player.fireside.fm/v2/eac-KT9/latest?theme=dark The Artists of Data Science Social links: Support the show: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/datascienceharp YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/HarpreetSahotaTheArtistsofDataScience Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/datascienceharp Facebook https://facebook.com/TheArtistsOfDataScience Twitter: https://twitter.com/datascienceharp


8 Apr 2022

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Boundary Spanning Designed By Natalie Nixon, PhD

Designed By - A Documentary Series

Creativity strategist Natalie Nixon PhD is know as the creativity whisperer for the C-Suite. In this episode Natalie discusses The Creativity Leap and shares her thoughts on the future of work, innovation and finding acceptance in worlds that may not always welcome you.DesignedByUs.org WE DARE TO DESIGN INCLUSIVE FUTURES,TODAY. WE DON'T RUN FROM EARTH'S PROBLEMS, WE RUN TOWARDS THEM.


17 Mar 2022

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CREATIVITY with Natalie Nixon: Wonder + rigor, strategic woo, and leadership lessons from ballroom dance

Voice Is

Julie and Casey sit down with speaker, author, and creativity expert Natalie Nixon, founder of Figure 8 Thinking, to discuss how everyone can find more creativity, how the workplace should be redefining productivity, and lessons from a life lived all over the world.  Along the way, we learn about intuition, the gifts of being “in the margins”, and why leaders should consider learning the tango. Thank you to our Season 3 sponsor, Armoire! If you're ready to try a new look, Armoire's high-end clothing rental service (full of amazing women-owned brands) will hook you up! For 50% off your first month's rental + a free item, go to http://armoire.style/voiceis and use VOICEIS in the referral box! TOP TAKEAWAYS: Noticing what she heard over and over again from the leaders and business folks she was talking to (“it’s like jazz” and “something told me to…” being two examples) and following her own curiosity led Natalie down her primary research paths: chaordic systems, intuitive leadership, and creativity.  Natalie explains creativity as “wonder + rigor”. Wonder is the necessary time/energy for reflection, play, experimentation, rest, etc., and rigor is the necessary time/energy for grit, practice, discipline, and gaining expertise. What if we had new metrics for productivity? Natalie coined the term “invisible work” to put a label on the ideation, ruminating, reframing of problems, reflection, etc that goes into the VISIBLE results in the business world. This stuff is absolutely necessary but difficult to quantify — the old metrics of “widgets created/time on task” don’t work in our new era of work. Mini Lesson: The challenges—and gifts—of being a “clumsy student” Natalie Nixon, PhD is a creativity strategist, global keynote speaker and author. As president of Figure 8 Thinking, LLC she advises leaders on transformation—by applying wonder and rigor to amplify growth and business value. Natalie is one of Real Leaders' "Top 50 Keynote Speakers in the World for 2022" She is the author of the award-winning The Creativity Leap: Unleash Curiosity, Improvisation and Intuition at Work—an honoree in the creativity category of Fast Company's 2021 World Changing Ideas Awards. Her firm Figure 8 Thinking, was named among the top 20 women-led innovation firms by Core 77 in 2021. Natalie received her BA (honors) from Vassar College, and her PhD from the University of Westminster in London. Follow Natalie on social media: https://www.instagram.com/natwnixon/https://www.linkedin.com/in/natalienixonphd/  https://twitter.com/natwnixon  https://www.facebook.com/natwnixon Find out more about Figure 8 Thinking - https://www.figure8thinking.com/ 

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16 Mar 2022

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Episode 28: Exploring Creativity with Natalie Nixon

52 Weeks of Me

A creativity strategy means understanding the role of beauty, desire, and aesthetics in building consumer insight.  It's the ability to converge unique and divergent experiences by helping people understand that strategy is creative. It is about building better cultures of collaboration and a toggle between wonder and rigor to solve problems and produce noble value.  One of the creativity structures we found effective in a company is orthogonal thinking.  Orthogonal thinking proved efficient when it comes to cognitive diversity - making sure that you have teams where not everyone has the same training, resume, or background. Companies that are trying to encourage orthogonal thinking move towards integrated creativity, consistently in the teams.Natalie's transition from her profession as an anthropologist to a creativity specialist, as she calls it, is a wonderful evolution - not denying that in the process, she also had moments where she was just in unbelief. She started helping companies find ways they could design more as an organization. In this episode, we will learn more about company strategies for a better culture, orthogonal thinking, and taking a creativity leap.---------- Natalie Nixon, Ph.D. is a creativity strategist, global keynote speaker, and author. As president of Figure 8 Thinking, LLC she advises leaders on transformation- by applying wonder and rigor to amplify growth andbusiness value.She is also one of Real Leaders' "Top 50 Keynote Speakers in the World for 2022". She is the author of the award-winning The Creativity Leap: Unleash Curiosity, Improvisation, and Intuition at Work - an honoree in the creativity category of Fast Company's 2021 World-Changing Ideas Awards. Her firm Figure 8 Thinking, was named among the top 20 women-led innovation firms by Core 77 in 2021.Connect with Natalie via the following:Email: natalie@figure8thinking.comMobile: +1-267-304-2010Social:LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/natalienixonphdInstagram & Twitter: @natwnixon---------- 52 Weeks of Me is hosted by Jacklyn Osborne and Erika Brooks. Check out our website -  www.52weeksofme.net or follow us on Instagram @fiftytwoweeksofme. For suggestions and comments, email us at fiftytwoweeksofme@gmail.com.


17 Feb 2022

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Ep. 227 Creative Leadership || Natalie Nixon, President of Figure 8 Thinking, Real Leaders Top 50 Keynote Speaker

Real Leaders Podcast

Natalie Nixon, PhD is a creativity strategist, global keynote speaker and author. As president of Figure 8 Thinking, LLC she advises leaders on transformation- by applying wonder and rigor to amplify growth and business value. Natalie is one of Real Leaders' "Top 50 Keynote Speakers in the World for 2022". She is the author of the award-winning The Creativity Leap: Unleash Curiosity, Improvisation and Intuition at Work - an honoree in the creativity category of Fast Company's 2021 World Changing Ideas Awards. Her firm Figure 8 Thinking, was named among the top 20 women-led innovation firms by Core 77 in 2021. Natalie received her BA (honors) from Vassar College, and her PhD from the University of Westminster in London.


26 Jan 2022

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Podcast S6E147: Natalie Nixon - Embrace the chaordic nature of improvisational organisations

Idea to Value - Creativity and Innovation with Nick Skillicorn

In today's episode of the Idea to Value podcast, we speak with Natalie Nixon, founder of Figure 8 Thinking and author of the The Creativity Leap. See the full epsiode at https://wp.me/p6pllj-1Ii #creativity #podcast #improvisation We speak about what jazz has to do with business, improvisational organisations and what it takes for teams to thrive in a chaortic world. Topics covered in this episode: 00:02:30 - Natalie's history with jazz, and learning how improvisation exists in organisations 00:08:00 - The structure behind teams improvising together 00:11:00 - Creativity is no longer a luxury in companies, it is now a necessity 00:13:15 - Creativity requires toggling between wonder and rigor to solve problems 00:15:45 - In order to innovate and be creative, you need to be willing to cede control 00:17:00 - The "Three I" framework: Inquiry, Improvisation, Intuition 00:21:00 - Intuition is about pattern recognition Links mentioned in this episode: Figure 8 Thinking: https://www.figure8thinking.com/ Book: Creativity Leap: Unleash Curiosity, Improvisation, and Intuition at Work: https://amzn.to/3rC4pMh Natalie on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/natalienixonphd Natalie on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/natwnixon Bonus: This episode was made possible by our premium innovation and creativity training. Take your innovation and creativity capabilities to the next level by investing in yourself now, at https://www.ideatovalue.com/all-access-pass-insider-secrets/ * Subscribe on iTunes to the Idea to Value Podcast: https://itunes.apple.com/gb/podcast/idea-to-value-creativity-innovation/id1199964981?mt=2 * Subscribe on Spotify to the Idea to Value Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/4x1kANUSv7UJoCJ8GavUrN * Subscribe on Stitcher to the Idea to Value Podcast: http://www.stitcher.com/s?fid=129437&refid=stpr * Subscribe on Google Podcasts to the Idea to Value Podcast: https://podcasts.google.com/?feed=aHR0cHM6Ly9pZGVhdG92YWx1ZS5saWJzeW4uY29tL3Jzcw Want to rapidly validate new ideas and innovative products and GROW your online business? These are the tools I actually use to run my online businesses (and you can too): * The best email management and campaigns system: ActiveCampaign (Free Trial) http://www.activecampaign.com/?_r=M17NLG2X  * Best value web hosting: BlueHost WordPress http://www.activecampaign.com/?_r=M17NLG2X  * Landing pages, Sales Pages and Lead collection: LeadPages (Free Trial) http://leadpages.pxf.io/c/1385771/390538/5673  * Sharing & List building: Sumo (Free) https://sumo.com/?src=partner_ideatovalue  * Payments, Shopping Cart, affiliate management and Upsell generator: ThriveCart https://improvides--checkout.thrivecart.com/thrivecart-standard-account/  * Video Webinars for sales: WebinarJam and Everwebinar ($1 Trial) https://nickskillicorn.krtra.com/t/lwIBaKzMP1oQ  * Membership for protecting content: Membermouse (Free Trial) http://affiliates.membermouse.com/idevaffiliate.php?id=735  * eLearning System for students: WP Courseware https://flyplugins.com/?fly=293  * Video Editing: Techsmith Camtasia http://techsmith.z6rjha.net/vvGPv I have used all of the above products myself to build IdeatoValue and Improvides, which is why I can confidently recommend them. I may also receive affiliate payments for any business I bring to them using the links above. Copyright https://www.ideatovalue.com


20 Jan 2022

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Ep.138: Creative Strategist Natalie Nixon [Rebroadcast]


We'll be back with new episodes in 2022. To close out the year, we're rebroadcasting some of our favorite episodes of the year.Dr. Natalie Nixon grew up in Philadelphia playing double dutch and hopscotch on the street. Listening to jazz with her dad and exploring art with her mother taught her the value of improvisation and emotional resonance. Flexing her academic excellence while also being subjected to racial bigotry and red lining helped to hone her ability to see systems and span boundaries. Her experiences are vast and varied, from running a hat business in New York city to earning her PhD in Design Management in London. Today she's the president of Figure 8 Thinking, a Creative Strategy & Design Research consultancy that helps leaders apply creativity & foresight to achieve transformative business results, and the author of The Creativity Leap: Unleash Curiosity, Improvisation, and Intuition at Work.   Many thanks to this episode's sponsor:Gild InsuranceHave you ever wondered if you have the insurance you need to be fully protected as a business owner? Gild is a nationally licensed, digital, independent insurance agency for small business owners, entrepreneurs, solopreneurs, microbusinesses and freelancers. Available online 24/7, Gild’s one-of-a-kind digital insurance process is easy to navigate and understand.  Gildber, the digital assistant, will ask you a series of questions and translate the complicated insurance process into a policy tailored to your business needs. By evaluating multiple trusted insurance providers’ options, Gildber finds you the partner you need in just minutes. To learn more about how Gild provides insurance when you need it and how you want it, visit yourgild.com/Clever. Please say Hi on social! Twitter, Instagram and Facebook - @CleverPodcast, @amydevers, If you enjoy Clever we could use your support! Please consider leaving a review, making a donation, becoming a sponsor, or introducing us to your friends! We love and appreciate you!Clever is hosted by Amy Devers and produced by 2VDE Media, with editing by Rich Stroffolino, production assistance from Laura Jaramillo and music by El Ten Eleven. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.


7 Dec 2021