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Ep 35 Andie Kramer and Al Harris: Breaking Through Biases and Stereotypes

Clear Choices Podcast

With the recent loss of Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, I am honored to have two people on the show who are very much in alignment with her fight for gender equality. Andie Kramer and Al Harris are gender bias experts who have spent the past 30 years combating gender bias through writing, speaking and mentoring. We are talking today about the ways in which women experience bias in the workplace and how these biases hinder their advancement and compensation in their careers. You will hear what choices and changes need to occur for our country to make progress in gender equality and racial equality as well. Andie and Al are the co-authors of two award-winning books: Breaking Through Bias: Communication Techniques for Women to Succeed at Work and It’s Not You, It’s the Workplace: Women’s Conflict at Work and the Bias That Built It. Andie and Al’s writing on communication strategies and gender biases have been widely featured, including in HBR.org, The Huffington Post, The New York Times, and The Chicago Tribune. Andie is also a contributing writer for Forbes.com. Together and separately, Andie and Al speak and lead workshops across the country to help women, men, and organizations overcome the negative effects of gender bias and build healthier, more productive workplaces. “Implicit bias is still a problem and that's what we focus on in our work.” “We need a new approach. We need a new way of attacking gender bias. And that new approach involves not telling people NOT to be biased but it involves finding ways to interrupt biases from career affecting decisions.” In this episode, you will hear: - The difference between explicit and implicit bias and how to tell the difference - What women, men, and organizations can do to decrease gender bias  - Andie and Al’s choice to write two books and fight for gender equality Coaching Information: If you would like more information on the Clear Choices business and life coaching program, please e-mail me at rob@robaigner.com or go to our website at https://clearchoices.live/. Thank you so much for listening! Please subscribe to the show, leave a review, and share it with a friend. Find me on Instagram @clearchoicespodcast and on Facebook .  If you have a guest idea or want to connect with me, please visit my website www.clearchoices.live. I am also available for speaking engagements. Connect with Andie and Al: https://andieandal.com/ Breaking Through Bias Second Edition: Communication Techniques for Women to Succeed at Work It's Not You It's the Workplace: Women's Conflict at Work and the Bias that Built It


14 Oct 2020

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Episode 61: Gender Inequity: Part Two, with Andie Kramer

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Andie Kramer is a partner at an international law firm. Alongside her demanding legal career, she has become a nationally known advocate for women’s advancement. Because mentorship opportunities for young executive and professional women are often limited, she co-founded the Women’s Leadership and Mentoring Alliance (WLMA) and has developed numerous women-specific leadership training programs. Andie is the recipient of a long list of accolades and awards for both achievements in her legal career and her advocacy of women. Among her accolades is being named on National Law Review’s 50 most influential women lawyers in America for her “demonstrated power to change the legal landscape, shape public affairs, launch industries, and do big things.” What you’ll learn about in this episode: Why the impact of the global pandemic has been different on women than they have been on men, and why women are shouldering a disproportionate amount of the burden How working mothers with school age or younger children are struggling with a lack of support during social distancing from both their workplaces and their partners at home Why women are paying a higher emotional tax during the pandemic due to increased bias and expectations on women Why men need to accept increased personal accountability to pick up some of the slack, and why the bias that women should be doing the heavy lifting is magnifying the disparity How the intersectionality of gender bias and racism is creating even greater challenges for women of color Why white people need to make the effort to understand how much more difficult things are in the workplace and in our culture for people of color How the present environment is creating a crucial turning point and the dual crises of the pandemic and the murder of George Floyd are magnifying the strain What steps organizations can take and strategies they can use to help overcome gender and intersectionality bias How forcing people to think more slowly as opposed to making knee-jerk reactions can help eliminate bias Additional resources: Breaking Through Bias 2nd Edition by Andie Kramer and Alton Harris: https://amzn.to/3b7vui5 It’s Not You, It’s the Workplace by Andie Kramer and Alton Harris: https://amzn.to/2QUeAtD Website: www.andieandal.com LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/andiekramer/ Twitter: @AndieandAl


16 Sep 2020

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Episode #17: It's Not You It's the Workplace with Andie Kramer and Al Harris

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Episode 17: Show Notes.It's not a secret that stereotypes and biases exist, but how can workplaces create systems and processes where gendered characterizations are stripped away to create more equitable, merit-based environments? This question is one which Andie Kramer and Al Harris address in their new book, It’s Not You, It’s the Workplace. As gender-bias experts, attorneys, and speakers, Andie and Al have dedicated their research efforts to understand the influence that stereotypes have on the way women are treated. In this episode, we discuss what sparked their interest in gender-biased workplaces, and what they learned about the issues women had with one another in the workplace. This unexpected finding led them to question myths like the 'mean girl', where women leaders are frequently characterized as bitchy and unpleasant because they are not fulfilling misplaced expectations that stem from stereotypes. We also consider how the small number of leadership roles for women fuel competition by pitting women up against one another. Along with this, we explore the importance of methods and practices that work to remove the subjectivities that always hurt women in the workplace. Although these problems are systemic and require more than a one-time workshop, Andie and Al offer ways that women can support themselves and one another in the absence of organizational reform. To hear more about this important work, be sure to tune in today!  Key Points From This Episode:What Andie learned in her time on her law firm’s compensation and management committee.The research that Andie and Al explored in their first book, Breaking Through Bias.Surprising findings of experiences that women have with other women in the workplace.The misplaced expectations that are placed on women leaders around being nice and kind.These stereotypes are deeply ingrained in us, and getting past them is hard.The ‘Goldilocks dilemma’ — Balancing between nice and being assertive.Debunking the 'mean girl' myth and how we can move past this.How the limited seats at the leadership table lead to competition among women.The difficulty that senior women face bringing junior women up with them.Exploring what Andie and Al refer to as ‘the three separate trains leaving the station.’Finding ways to prevent bias from influencing the trajectory of people’s careers.Some ways to remove biases from evaluation and hiring procedures.What women can do right now to cope with the gender-biased workplaces.Links Mentioned in Today’s Episode:Create Your Leading Edge ChallengeAndie & AlAndie & Al on TwitterAndie Kramer on LinkedInAl Harris on LinkedInITSPmagazineIt's Not You It's the WorkplaceBreaking Through BiasGoldman SachsKim O'Grady adds "mister" to his resume, gets a job


14 Sep 2020

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Episode 60: Gender Inequity: Part One, with Andie Kramer

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Andie Kramer is a partner at an international law firm. Alongside her demanding legal career, she has become a nationally known advocate for women’s advancement. Because mentorship opportunities for young executive and professional women are often limited, she co-founded the Women’s Leadership and Mentoring Alliance (WLMA) and has developed numerous women-specific leadership training programs. Andie is the recipient of a long list of accolades and awards for both achievements in her legal career and her advocacy of women. Among her accolades is being named on National Law Review’s 50 most influential women lawyers in America for her “demonstrated power to change the legal landscape, shape public affairs, launch industries, and do big things.” What you’ll learn about in this episode: How making the transition from a tiny law firm to a large international firm opened Andie’s eyes to the realities of gender inequity How the men at Andie’s firm would give themselves glowing praise in their self-evaluations but the women would credit the entire team in theirs Why Andie is releasing the second edition of her book focusing more on the increased prevalence of explicit bias since the election of Donald Trump Why there are certain communication techniques women are hesitant to use, and how using a sense of humor to navigate situations can be a powerful tool How implicit gender bias typically shows up in the workplace, and why women must walk a careful tightrope between “nice, kind and sweet” and “competent and confident” How women often have to adapt to situations to be able to navigate through the workplace, and how to do so in an authentic, true-to-yourself way What suggestions and advice Andie would offer to women experiencing gender bias in the workplace Why men must understand that the workplace isn’t a perfect meritocracy, and why men have a responsibility to help solve these issues Why men shouldn’t just be a part of the conversation but should be starting the conversation when they identify problems Additional resources: Breaking Through Bias 2nd Edition by Andie Kramer and Alton Harris: https://amzn.to/3b7vui5 Website: www.andieandal.com LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/andiekramer/ Twitter: @AndieandAl


9 Sep 2020

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194: Andie Kramer and Al Harris—Will The Pandemic Hurt Women In The Work Force?

On the Brink with Andi Simon

Learn how today's crisis affects women and gender roles We have a serious concern about the impact of the pandemic on women in the workplace. So, we invited Andie Kramer and Al Harris back to share with us their perspectives. On April 1st, Andie had a new article published in Forbes entitled, "Why Stay-At-Home Orders Might Be Good For Gender Equality."  Or, if China is a leading indicator, it might be good for divorces. While we have been called futurists, this is not a time for us to offer anything that sounds like “certainty.” But we do know that these times are changing, fast, and we will have to as well. In this podcast, Andie, Al and I talk about how people change, or resist change. Especially now, please listen in. Humans are habit-driven animals We prefer to fall into old habits and repeat well-honed patterns of behavior which we believe to be “the way we do it.” For years, we at SAMC have preached, "If you want to change, have a crisis or create one." The COVID-19 has created that crisis. Now we need to help you change. Your new ways of doing things...temporary or long-lasting? When it comes to the new normal, working at home, often with your kids and your spouse or partner right alongside, the old habits are rather irrelevant. But how do you create new habits, and quickly, and how will these impact gender relationships? Whether you are a man or a woman, you should pause and think about what each of you likes to do and what you do best. Then begin to talk about how to navigate the new realities of living, working and raising kids at home. Whether this is a short-term or a longer-term transformation, you might as well get used to this new way of life, at least until it changes into something else. Even as the world opens up again, you might want to re-think all the things you did in the past that you are changing now. And in doing so, you might discover that you don't want to return to the way you did things before. Even before the pandemic, remote workers were becoming more common Employers already were looking for a more flexible, often global, workforce that didn't need office space and benefit packages. And the technology to enable companies to operate remotely has been available, even if it wasn't being used to the fullest. Moreover, as women have become the bread winners in over one-third of American families, they have been figuring out how to raise a family and financially support the household. With women owning over 40% of the businesses in the U.S. before the pandemic hit us, they were creating new revenue streams, new second careers, and opening many businesses out of necessity. Working at home is what many women have done for decades. Now in the midst of this crisis,  they can help their partners learn how to balance home, work and family. Yes, the future is unclear, but also full of possibilities We know that people can find innovative ways to adapt to change. They always have, throughout human history. Now, we just have to let those creative juices flow and re-invent our lives to thrive. We can do it! You're probably already doing it. Let us hear your stories so we can share them. And hang in there, a new day is coming. Listen to my Dec 2019 interview with Andie and Al In my first interview with Andie and Al, we talk at length about their detailed social science research with women and men across the country. Surprisingly, what they found is that women’s unique conflicts with other women and with men are not caused by gender or different styles or the way they were raised and socialized. Rather, it's the result of pervasive gender bias in their workplaces. Fascinating stuff. Listen here. More about Andie and Al Gender bias expert and a partner at an international law firm, Andie Kramer has become a well-known advocate for women’s advancement, mentoring thousands of women. She co-founded the Women’s Leadership and Mentoring Alliance and leads workshops across the country to help women—and men—overcome gender-based hurdles and build healthier, more productive workplaces. Andie is the recipient of a long list of accolades and awards for her achievements in her legal career and her advocacy of women, and is also a contributing writer for Forbes.com. Al Harris, also a gender bias expert, was a founding partner of the Chicago law firm Ungaretti & Harris (now part of Nixon Peabody) where Andie started her legal career. At Ungaretti & Harris, Al served for many years as managing partner and then as a member of its Executive and Compensation Committees, giving him extensive experience watching and evaluating women as they moved up the career ladder. Over the course of his career, Al has grown increasingly concerned about the barriers and biases women face in traditionally male career environments and subsequently he has mentored and advised numerous women in many career fields.  Co-authors of the popular books, "Breaking Through Bias: Communication Techniques for Women to Succeed at Work" and "It’s Not You, It’s the Workplace: Women’s Conflict at Work and the Bias That Built It," Andie and Al are frequent keynote speakers and conduct workshops for all types of organizations so they can better understand the world of gender bias. For more on gender bias in the workplace, check out these blogs and podcasts: Blog: How Women in Leadership Roles Can Finally Change The Workplace Blog: When It Comes To Corporate Culture, Are Men And Women All That Different? Podcast: Sarah Soule—Busting Those Stereotypes of Women Podcast: Andi Simon—Women Entrepreneurs Changing Corporate Cultures Additional resources Women’s Leadership and Mentoring Alliance Andie and Al's books: "Breaking Through Bias: Communication Techniques for Women to Succeed at Work" and"It’s Not You, It’s the Workplace: Women’s Conflict at Work and the Bias That Built It"  My award-winning book: "On the Brink: A Fresh Lens to Take Your Business to New Heights" Simon Associates Management Consultants website


27 Apr 2020

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Navigating Toxic Workplaces with Andie Kramer and Al Harris

Beyond The Dollar - Deep and Honest Conversations On How Money Affects Your Well-Being

#68: Andie Kramer and Al Harris, author of “It’s Not You, It’s the Workplace” chat about why traditional corporate workplaces don’t normally offer a work/home integration, why women feel like it’s a zero sum game when climbing the ranks, why it might be your fault when it comes to working alongside colleagues, and how we can be a better advocate for all in the working world.Stick around to the end where I’m going to distill takeaways from your conversation including statistics about why the gender gap exists and some practical questions we can all have a better time at work.For resources mentioned head to http://beyondthedollar.co/68*theme music by Donovan Dorrance


11 Mar 2020

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Episode 102: It’s Not Her; It’s the Workplace with Andie Kramer

Advice To My Younger Me

Andie Kramer, author of It’s Not You, It’s the Workplace, discusses the real sources of conflict among women in the workplace. You’ll hear: How gender bias contributes to women’s conflict with each other at work Why having a limited number of “seats at the table” for women sets up unhealthy competition among women Why friendship should not be a prerequisite to supporting other women at work Books:  It’s Not You, It’s the Workplace: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1473697263/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_swlUDb6NZT2F5 Breaking Through Bias: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1629561045/ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp_U_axlUDbGW3Y5TX Website: AndieandAl.com Facebook: @BreakingThroughBias Twitter: @AndieaandAl Additional resources: Change This: "Overcoming Women’s Workplace Conflicts Because of Different Social Identities” Fast Company: "This is what it takes to get more women leaders in the workplace” Sign up for the Advice to My Younger Me monthly newsletter: www.tomyyounger.me Sara can be reached on Twitter and LinkedIn. Leave a review:  https://itunes.apple.com/podcast/id1101880566?mt=2&ls=1


26 Feb 2020

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87: What to Do About Gender Bias in the Workplace Andie Kramer and Al Harris

The Modern Manager

Despite our best efforts, it's hard to ignore gender in the workplace. Gender roles and stereotypes have been reinforced in us since birth. Often, we don’t even realize our unconscious gender biases and their impact. If we truly want to create a work environment that rewards on merits, we must address gender with eyes wide open.  Andie Kramer and Al Harris, they are married practicing lawyers. They have been mentoring women and speaking and writing about gender communication for more than 30 years. They offer women unique, balanced, and highly practical advice they can use to prevent gender biases from slowing or derailing their careers. Andie and Al also present arresting information and compelling examples for male audiences to make them aware of and sensitive to the gender biases that hold women back—even in the most well-intentioned organizations. This power couple provides organizations with concrete, non-disruptive suggestions for workplace changes that will make women’s career opportunities more comparable to men’s. Read the related blog article: The Surprising Truth About Gender Bias in the Workplace Join the Modern Manager community (www.mamieks.com/join) to get 3 tip sheets from Andie and Al:  Gaslighting Tip Sheet: This guide offers nine tips on how to respond when women are told they are imagining gender bias.  Preventing Interruptions: This sheet provides tips on how to avoid being interrupted, and what to do when you are interrupted. Saying “No”: This guide walks you through the thought process of What to when you are asked to do something that won’t advance your career. Join by February 11, 2020 to be eligible to win a full behavioral, motivational, and axiological analysis and a 90-minute debriefing. These tools will gather information about your brain type, communication type, motivational orientation (what moves you), emotional consistencies (what emotions you rely on for decision making), effective nature, default instincts, emotional needs, self-esteem, self-direction, practical thinking, structured thinking, work/role-awareness, etc. One member will be drawn at random but you must join before February 11th, 2020 to be eligible.  If you work for a nonprofit or government agency, email me at mamie@mamieks.com for 20% off any membership level. Subscribe to my newsletter to get episodes, articles and free mini-guides delivered to your inbox.  Help me write my new book! I’m researching what makes a manager great to work for. Share your story and experience at www.managerialgreatness.com Help spread the word, too! Share the link with friends and colleagues.  KEY TAKEAWAYS Gender stereotypes have no basis in fact. The differences among women are just as prevalent as the differences between men and women. Each person is their own unique being. People expect women to be kind, communally focused, and soft, so when they’re direct and results-oriented, we (men and women alike)  ‘punish’ them. Yet, women fight to not be held to traditional feminine expectations. The “Goldilocks dilemma” occurs when a woman experiences this challenge: (1) If I’m nice and kind, people like me and want to work with me, but don’t give me important work to do. (2) If I’m strong and assertive, I’m competent, but nobody wants me on their team. Gender stereotypes are ingrained in culture from the moment we’re born. They are reinforced throughout life which makes them very hard to even recognize or be aware of. Men need to recognize that women have it tougher than women in almost every work environment. Men need to pay extra attention to including women on their teams, giving them equally challenging assignments, and not treating women with extra sensitivity.   Because leadership of organizations is predominantly male, there is by default a culture in which the values, the norms, the expectations revolve around a masculine view of the workplace. This is challenging given home life is often gendered in most families too, with greater obligations on the women. The interplay makes it much harder on women than men. To help equal the playing field, managers can offer more flexible work policies. They can offer women opportunities despite any reservations about the woman’s family pressures, allowing the woman to decide for herself.  KEEP UP WITH ANDIE AND AL Twitter: https://twitter.com/AndieandAl;  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andreaskramer/ Website: http://andieandal.com/ mamie@mamieks.com


29 Jan 2020

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Learning to be Unapologetically Fierce and WIN in the Workplace in today’s Corporate Environment Andie Kramer

The UnCaged™ Entrepreneur Heather Havenwood

Hey Boss!Meet Andie! Andie and her husband Al. They together are working on the expanding the Gender Diversity in the work place through as leadership. THIS Interview is intense and one of my favorites. I am not a lawyer nor in a corporate environment, however Andie - lays it all out on the line on WHY women are not getting ahead in business as fast as men, and HOW to alter a few ways of behavior to help!LISTEN and LEARN! Men and Women!Be You! Be Real! Be the Boss of your Life!Heather HavenwoodBe the Boss of Your Business! Your Marketing! Your Message! Your Money! Your Mind!Want to interview or get in contact with Heather, contact:media@sexybossinc.comhttps://www.callwithheather.comBECOME AN INFLUENCER IN YOUR INDUSTRY AND FIELD. GET MORE EXPOSURE, VISIBILITY AND, TRAFFIC BY BECOMING AN INFLUENCERhttp://www.InfluencerTribe.comLAUNCH YOUR PODCASThttps://www.InfluencerGrowthFormula.com/vipCHECK OUT MY UNIQUE SKINCARE LINEhttp://HeatherSkin.comSexy Boss Beauty!START BUILDING ONLINE COURSE / MEMBERSHIP SITEhttps://heatherhavenwood.com/thinkificBEST TOOL TO GROW A YOUTUBE CHANNELhttp://tubebuddy.com/sexybossSTART BUILDING YOUR HERD WITH BEST EMAIL MARKETINGhttps://heatherhavenwood.com/convertkitREPURPOSE YOUR LIVE STREAMS AND PODCASTS WITH ONE PUSHhttps://heatherhavenwood.com/repurposeINSTANT EBOOKS, CLOSED CAPTIONS FROM YOUR VIDEOShttps://heatherhavenwood.com/designREQUEST A 30 MINUTE PODCAST or LINKEDIN or YOUTUBE Channel Reviewhttps://www.callwithheather.comMY GEAR TO SHOOT VIDEOS AND PODCASTING (Affiliate Links)Microphones for Video and Podcasting 🎤(Amazon) Rode Video Mic Pro Plus https://amzn.to/2YhR8ga(Amazon) Rode NTG https://amzn.to/2yvFy1E(Amazon) Sennheiser AVX Wireless Mics https://amzn.to/2YnTeLB(Amazon) Blue Yeti Blackout Edition https://amzn.to/336G4BpLighting Gear 💡(Amazon) Aputure AL-M9 https://amzn.to/2ywk2tG(Amazon) Neewer A full Video Shooting Kit https://amzn.to/2YkLaLJ


15 Jan 2020

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How to deal with gender bias with Andie Kramer

Creative Women International podcast

You might like to think that the sisterhood has your back, but what happens if the workplace is causing gender bias from both the men and women? I had one of my most inspiring podcast chats yet, with lawyer and gender bias expert Andie Kramer. She explained why it happens, but more importantly- how we can deal with it and build up our sisterhood.  What I loved about our conversation is that Andie shared some many amazing things that you can action right now. I've been someone who has had to deal with gender bias in the workplace, and it is a tricky situation to deal with. I wish I had known half of what Andie taught me in this podcast! To get you started there is a free worksheet for you to download from the link below.  WORKSHEETS FOR YOU: Creative Women International INSTAGRAM: Creative Women International FB COMMUNITY: Find out more about Andie Kramer and her books:


12 Dec 2019