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#99 - Leah Garcés on turning adversaries into allies to change the chicken industry

80,000 Hours Podcast with Rob Wiblin

For a chance to prevent enormous amounts of suffering, would you be brave enough to drive five hours to a remote location to meet a man who seems likely to be your enemy, knowing that it might be an ambush? Today's guest - Leah Garcés - was. That man was a chicken farmer named Craig Watts, and that ambush never happened. Instead, Leah and Craig forged a friendship and a partnership focused on reducing suffering on factory farms. Leah, now president of Mercy For Animals (MFA), tried for years to get access to a chicken farm to document the horrors she knew were happening behind closed doors. It made sense that no one would let her in - why would the evil chicken farmers behind these atrocities ever be willing to help her take them down? But after sitting with Craig on his living room floor for hours and listening to his story, she discovered that he wasn't evil at all - in fact he was just stuck in a cycle he couldn't escape, forced to use methods he didn't endorse. Links to learn more, summary and full transcript. Most chicken farmers have enormous debts they are constantly struggling to pay off, make very little money, and have to work in terrible conditions - their main activity most days is finding and killing the sick chickens in their flock. Craig was one of very few farmers close to finally paying off his debts, which made him slightly less vulnerable to retaliation. That opened up the possibility for him to work with Leah. Craig let Leah openly film inside the chicken houses, and shared highly confidential documents about the antibiotics put into the feed. That led to a viral video, and a New York Times story. The villain of that video was Jim Perdue, CEO of one of the biggest meat companies in the world. They show him saying, "Farmers are happy. Chickens are happy. There's a lot of space. They're clean." And then they show the grim reality. For years, Perdue wouldn't speak to Leah. But remarkably, when they actually met in person, she again managed to forge a meaningful relationship with a natural adversary. She was able to put aside her utter contempt for the chicken industry and see Craig and Jim as people, not cartoonish villains. Leah believes that you need to be willing to sit down with anyone who has the power to solve a problem that you don't - recognising them as human beings with a lifetime of complicated decisions behind their actions. And she stresses that finding or making a connection is really important. In the case of Jim Perdue, it was the fact they both had adopted children. Because of this, they were able to forget that they were supposed to be enemies in that moment, and build some trust. The other lesson that Leah highlights is that you need to look for win-wins and start there, rather than starting with disagreements. With Craig Watts, instead of opening with ?How do I end his job?, she thought, ?How can I find him a better job?? If you find solutions where everybody wins, you don't need to spend resources fighting the former enemy. They'll come to you. It turns out that conditions in chicken houses are perfect for growing hemp or mushrooms, so MFA have started their 'Transfarmation project' to help farmers like Craig escape from the prison of factory farming by converting their production from animals to plants. To convince farmers to leave behind a life of producing suffering, all you need to do is find them something better - which for many of them is almost anything else. Leah and Rob also talk about: * Why conditions for farmers are so bad * The benefits of creating a public ranking, and scoring companies against each other * The difficulty of enforcing corporate pledges * And much more Producer: Keiran Harris. Audio mastering: Ben Cordell. Transcriptions: Sofia Davis-Fogel.

2hr 26mins

13 May 2021

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Leah Garcés and Michael Pellman Rowland: Transfarmation

Species Unite

“There's $5 billion of debt collectively from contract chicken farmers. It's enormous. You're just treading water. You're just paying the bills and it starts off great, in the sense that you think you're going to make enough money. But you end up just paying bills and never getting ahead. And that's very typical.” – Leah Garcés Over the past few decades, people have become increasingly aware of the that factory farming is destroying the planet and most know that its abhorrently cruel and inhumane for animals. But most people still don’t realize that many farmers are also exploited, in massive debt and living far below the poverty line because of it. The Transfarmation Project aims to change that by freeing farmers from the confines of factory farming and the cycle of debt by helping them transition to plant-based farming. “The project is about creating constructive solutions, where we come in and work with communities, with farmers, finding alternatives. Especially alternative economies or alternative ways of farming that move farmers away from factory farming to something that's regenerative and sustainable and is creating a compassionate food system.” – Leah Garces Leah Garcés, the President of Mercy for Animals and Michael Pellman Rowland, a financial advisor and a Mercy for Animals Board Member spoke with me about Transfarmation at a live event in December. Please listen and share - this project is going to change the world for millions of animals and for farmers across the planet.

27mins

7 Jan 2021

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A lesson in turning adversaries into allies | Leah Garcés

TED Talks Daily (HD video)

When you're on opposite sides of an issue, how do you broker peace with your adversaries and work together to solve a problem? Follow along as animal rights activist Leah Garcés recounts three lessons she learned in hatching an ambitious plan to end chicken factory farming with the last person she expected: a chicken farmer.

13mins

10 Sep 2020

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A lesson in turning adversaries into allies | Leah Garcés

TED Talks Daily (SD video)

When you're on opposite sides of an issue, how do you broker peace with your adversaries and work together to solve a problem? Follow along as animal rights activist Leah Garcés recounts three lessons she learned in hatching an ambitious plan to end chicken factory farming with the last person she expected: a chicken farmer.

13mins

10 Sep 2020

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A lesson in turning adversaries into allies | Leah Garcés

TED Talks Daily

When you're on opposite sides of an issue, how do you broker peace with your adversaries and work together to solve a problem? Follow along as animal rights activist Leah Garcés recounts three lessons she learned in hatching an ambitious plan to end chicken factory farming with the last person she expected: a chicken farmer.

13mins

10 Sep 2020

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Leah Garcés of Mercy For Animals on factory farm investigations, long-term strategy, and animal advocacy during COVID-19

The Sentience Institute Podcast

“Our challenge is one where investigations are very hard. The people who do this work, I cannot tell you how smart they are. They are doing all kinds of research, not just getting the footage. The footage is the last thing they’re getting; they’re doing so much more to be able achieve that footage, including thinking strategically through: How do we achieve that strategic plan that we’ve laid out which includes securing broiler policies, enforcing egg policies. And what we’re trying to do is not just telling stories that engage the public. They are underpinned by a bigger strategy. We worked on a campaign with McDonalds and we did undercover investigations into McDonalds egg-laying hens; undercover investigations followed by a coalition campaign that then led to them adopting cage-free eggs as their policy. And that is the precise formula that you want.”Leah GarcésMercy For Animals’ interventions affect the lives of hundreds of millions of animals. But how do we go from these impressive achievements to the end of factory farming? And what strategies should advocates be employing to help animals most effectively?Leah Garcés is the president of Mercy For Animals and previously founded Compassion in World Farming’s US branch. She’s also the author of the book Grilled: Turning Adversaries into Allies to Change the Chicken Industry.Topics discussed in the episode:Mercy For Animals’ plan for ending factory farming (1:45)How MFA decides which countries to focus its work on (9:06)Why MFA advocates for pigs, chickens, and fish, but not insects yet (17:45)The opportunities presented by COVID-19 for animal advocacy (20:19)How MFA maximizes the positive impact of its factory farm investigations (29:10)The priorities in corporate welfare campaigns and how advocates can avoid encouraging “humanewashing” by the meat industry (40:42)MFA’s marketing funnel for volunteers and capacity-building programmes (48:59)How Leah thinks about long-term trends and impact for animals on longer timeframes (53:20)How MFA has changed its approach to plant-based advocacy (1:06:50)The different countries that MFA operates in and how its role varies by country (1:13:48)How Leah’s career has developed and her tips for founding new nonprofits (1:19:34)The biggest bottlenecks preventing MFA from having even more impact than it already does (1:24:31)The importance of increasing operational expertise in the farmed animal movement (1:31:18)Resources discussed in the episode are available at https://www.sentienceinstitute.org/podcastSupport the show (https://www.sentienceinstitute.org/donate)

1hr 35mins

31 Aug 2020

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Leah Garcés: The Next Pandemic Will Probably Come From A Factory Farm

Species Unite

“…This is not a surprise in many ways and, for decades, not just animal rights activists, but public health experts have been sounding the alarm bells about this kind of risk. And you know, my concern is in many ways people are referring to this as a once in a century event or the black swan or something, but it's like rolling dice and rolling snake eyes once doesn't have any effect on rolling. And in fact, we're rolling the dice even faster now. The main reason is because we are in so much contact with animals through factory farms. So the way to think about pandemics is that we know that emerging zoonotic infections come from places where animals and humans are in close contact. Well, where is that? Live animal markets, we know that. And the other place is industrial animal farms and slaughterhouses. That is the most obvious place for that connection to happen.” – Leah Garces The New Coronavirus has done a superb job at exposing the numerous vulnerabilities and holes in many of our systems and industries, but none are as gaping or dangerous as the chasms in our food system. Our food system is in crisis. We are seeing it right now – meat shortages, mass killings of animals because of shut downs and overflow, workers are getting sick and dying. It’s a fragile system that needs (and has needed for decades) a complete overhaul. By exposing these vulnerabilities, the pandemic is also giving us an opportunity to demand that the system change and, while we are at it, to think about changing the way that we eat. If we don’t, if we ignore the scores of red flags waving from the factory farms and slaughterhouses across the country, then not only will the crisis deepen, but we are also putting the entire globe at risk for another pandemic that could and probably will be much worse than the one we are currently experiencing. Factory farms are breeding grounds for viruses and bacterial resistance. We cram thousands of animals into filthy, confined spaces. Their immune systems are stressed because of their living conditions. This is the perfect environment for viruses to grow and to mutate. And, to transmit to humans – it’s happened before and next time, and, yes, it will happen again, and next time could be much worse. Leah Garcés mission is to end factory farming. She is the President of Mercy for Animals and has spent much of her life leading the animal protection movement in exposing the hidden and horrible worlds of factory farming - and, changing them. Her approach has been usual and it’s created change in a system that in many ways seemed unchangeable. She has worked with whistleblowing farmers to expose industrial chicken farms and has partnered with some of the world's largest food companies to improve conditions for factory-farmed animals. Leah learned that she could make considerable progress by working with her adversaries in the meat industry instead of battling against them, something I think that all of us can learn from. Her story is one that makes us rethink how we change broken systems and repair destructive industries. She wrote a book about it called, Grilled, Turning Adversaries Into Allies to Change the Chicken Industry. It's an incredible read – not only does it expose the horrors of our food system, it’s also a book on how to make change happen, how to fight for justice, and how to remain empathic, optimistic, and hopeful in a fight for a much better world. Leah is a hero to millions of animals, to humans across the planet, and to me. She thinks big, she get’s things done, and creates massive impact in the process.

50mins

6 May 2020

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Leah Garcés On Turning Adversaries Into Allies — Leveraging Empathy To Change Animal Agriculture

The Rich Roll Podcast

“My purpose is to reduce suffering.”Leah GarcésMeat is complicated. Political, divisive and often polarizing.The most common story told focuses on factory farmed cows. Hormone injected and antibiotic-laden, red meat is inextricably linked to an array of human illnesses. Resource and waste intensive, beef is inarguably environmentally damning. And perhaps the most ethically fraught.A typical response among many? Swap that beef for chicken.America's favorite meat, chicken constitutes a staggering 95% of all factory-farmed animals. The U.S. currently consumes 9 billion chickens per year with worldwide numbers in the 50 billion range. That's about 137 million chickens a day. Every day.But is chicken actually healthier than beef? Is it more environmentally responsible or ethical in comparison to other alternatives?Today Leah Garcés joins the podcast with a public service announcement: everything you think you know about chicken is wrong.The new president of the international non-profit Mercy for Animals, Leah Garcés has spent her life on the frontlines of the animal welfare movement exposing what actually transpires inside industrial chicken farms. Devoted to improving conditions for factory-farmed animals, she has made significant progress not through a traditional strategy of antagonism, but instead by pursuit of cooperation, working alongside some of the largest food and agriculture companies in the world -- including Perdue, Popeye’s, Panera & Chipotle -- to produce positive change.In her new book, Leah chronicles her experience teaming up with whistleblowers in the megafarm industry. Part memoir, part investigative thriller, Grilled: Turning Adversaries into Allies to Change the Chicken Industry is a great read that not only elucidates the ills of our broken food system, but also casts an optimistic lens on a better future for food, animals, and humans.Most impressive is Leah's profound empathy. Not just for the animals, but for the people most animal rights folks consider the enemy: the factory-farmers; the slaughterhouse workers; and the corporate executives that control animal intensive farming.Rather than fight against these people, Leah adopted a different approach, working with them instead.It's a tactic that might strike the hardened animal rights activist as anathema. Controversial and perhaps even unacceptable. But the cornerstone of the vegan movement is compassion. And lasting change can only come from directing that emotion not just to the animals, but to all — including the people behind the animals.Today we unpack all of it.It's a conversation about the insidious reality of industrial chicken farming. An exploration of the modern-day farmer's plight as an indentured servant. And the industrial complex that entrenches our broken and undeniable cruel system of food production.But ultimately, this is a conversation about empathy. It’s about practicing what you preach. And the strategies required to create sustainable change to forge a better world for all.The visually inclined can watch it all go down on YouTube. And as always, the audio version streams wild and free on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.Note: For those who shut down at the mere mention of animal rights, I ask only that you set aside your preconceived judgments. Because this conversation isn’t just about the suffering of animals. It’s about the suffering of people. And it’s about a system that is hoodwinking us all, including the chicken farmer with his boots in the ground.Final Note: this conversation was recorded pre-pandemic on January 31, 2020. Our world has since changed. But given what we are learning about the relationship between large-scale intensive animal farming and the propagation of disease, Leah's message, experience and wisdom is more relevant now than everI am grateful for Leah's advocacy and passion. May you find this conversation as impactful as I did.Peace + Plants,Listen, Watch & SubscribeApple Podcasts | YouTube | Spotify | Stitcher | Google PodcastsThanks to this week’s sponsorsDaily Harvest: Daily Harvest makes it easy to eat more fruits and vegetables with thoughtfully sourced, chef-crafted foods that are ready in five minutes or less. Go to dailyharvest.com and enter promo code RICHROLL to get twenty-five dollars off your first box.Squarespace: Make your next move with Squarespace and start building the website of your dreams. Start your free trial site today and get a free domain if you sign up for a year at squarespace.com/richroll. Listeners of the podcast can even save 10% off their first purchase when they use the offer code RICHROLL at checkout.Grove Collaborative: The online marketplace that makes it easy to go green by delivering all-natural & non-toxic home, beauty, and personal care products right to your doorstep. For a limited time, visit grove.co/richroll and get a free Sustainable Swap Set with your purchase with free shipping & a FREE 60-day VIP Trial.Note: One of the best ways to support the podcast is to support the sponsors. For a complete list of all RRP sponsors and their respective vanity url's and discount codes, visit my Resources page and click "Sponsors".SHOW NOTESPick up Leah's new book, Grilled: Turning Adversaries into Allies to Change the Chicken Industry*Connect With Leah: Facebook | Twitter | InstagramMercy For Animals: mercyforanimals.comNY Times: Abusing Chickens We Eat by Nicholas KristofNY Times: Animal Cruelty or The Price of Dinner? by Nicholas KristofThe Atlantic: The Human Cost of Chicken FarmingVICE: Why a North Carolina Chicken Farmer Exposed the Depressing Conditions on His Own FarmWired: Hoping to Change the Industry, a Factory Farmer Opens His Barn DoorsWashington Post: The not-so-humane way ‘humanely raised’ chickens are being raisedForbes: Poultry To Plant-Based: Animal Farmers Are Now Working With Vegans To Get Out Of The Meat BusinessForbes: Popeyes Signs On To ‘Better Chicken’Vox: Replacing beef with chicken isn’t as good for the planet as you thinkVox: Battle-tested lessons from the animal rights struggleCivil Eats: Americans Eat More Chicken Than EverCivil Eats: The Plant-Based Movement to Transition Farmers Away from Meat and Dairy ProductionVegNews: Mercy For Animals Convinces Popeyes To Agree To Better Chicken Welfare StandardsLiveKindly: This Farmer Started Growing Hemp Instead of Killing ChickensRelated Podcasts You Might EnjoyRRP #335: Nathan Runkle Has Mercy For AnimalsRRP #423: James Aspey: Eat Plants, Not AnimalsRRP #111: Lisa Lange On Why It's Cool To Be CompassionateRRP #138: Gene Baur On Living In Alignment With Your ValuesThanks to Jason Camiolo for production, audio engineering and show notes; Margo Lubin and Blake Curtis for video, editing and graphics; portraits by Ali Rogers; and theme music by Ana Leimma.*Disclosure: Books and products denoted with an asterisk are hyperlinked to an affiliate program. We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.for 1000s of delicious, customized plant-based recipes & so much more, check out our Plantpower Meal PlannerHOW CAN I SUPPORT THE PODCAST?Tell Your Friends & Share Online!Subscribe & Review:  iTunes | Spotify | Stitcher | Soundcloud | Google PodcastsDonate: Check out our Patreon accountSupport The Sponsors: One of the best ways to support the podcast is to support our sponsors. For a complete list of all RRP sponsors and their respective vanity url's and discount codes, visit my Resources page and click "Sponsors". See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

2hr 6mins

6 Apr 2020

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Leah Garcés On Turning Adversaries Into Allies — Leveraging Empathy To Change Animal Agriculture

The Rich Roll Podcast

Meat is complicated. Political, divisive and often polarizing.The most common story told focuses on factory farmed cows. Hormone injected and antibiotic-laden, red meat is inextricably linked to an array of human illnesses. Resource and waste intensive, beef is inarguably environmentally damning. And perhaps the most ethically fraught.A typical response among many? Swap that beef for chicken.America's favorite meat, chicken constitutes a staggering 95% of all factory-farmed animals. The U.S. currently consumes 9 billion chickens per year with worldwide numbers in the 50 billion range. That's about 137 million chickens a day. Every day.But is chicken actually healthier than beef? Is it more environmentally responsible or ethical in comparison to other alternatives?Today Leah Garcés joins the podcast with a public service announcement: everything you think you know about chicken is wrong.The new president of the international non-profit Mercy for Animals, Leah Garcés has spent her life on the frontlines of the animal welfare movement exposing what actually transpires inside industrial chicken farms. Devoted to improving conditions for factory-farmed animals, she has made significant progress not through a traditional strategy of antagonism, but instead by pursuit of cooperation, working alongside some of the largest food and agriculture companies in the world -- including Perdue, Popeye’s, Panera & Chipotle -- to produce positive change.In her new book, Leah chronicles her experience teaming up with whistleblowers in the megafarm industry. Part memoir, part investigative thriller, Grilled: Turning Adversaries into Allies to Change the Chicken Industry is a great read that not only elucidates the ills of our broken food system, but also casts an optimistic lens on a better future for food, animals, and humans.Most impressive is Leah's profound empathy. Not just for the animals, but for the people most animal rights folks consider the enemy: the factory-farmers; the slaughterhouse workers; and the corporate executives that control animal intensive farming.Rather than fight against these people, Leah adopted a different approach, working with them instead.It's a tactic that might strike the hardened animal rights activist as anathema. Controversial and perhaps even unacceptable. But the cornerstone of the vegan movement is compassion. And lasting change can only come from directing that emotion not just to the animals, but to all — including the people behind the animals.Today we unpack all of it.It's a conversation about the insidious reality of industrial chicken farming. An exploration of the modern-day farmer's plight as an indentured servant. And the industrial complex that entrenches our broken and undeniable cruel system of food production.But ultimately, this is a conversation about empathy. It’s about practicing what you preach. And the strategies required to create sustainable change to forge a better world for all.The visually inclined can watch it all go down on YouTube. And as always, the audio version streams wild and free on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.Note: For those who shut down at the mere mention of animal rights, I ask only that you set aside your preconceived judgments. Because this conversation isn’t just about the suffering of animals. It’s about the suffering of people. And it’s about a system that is hoodwinking us all, including the chicken farmer with his boots in the ground.Final Note: this conversation was recorded pre-pandemic on January 31, 2020. Our world has since changed. But given what we are learning about the relationship between large-scale intensive animal farming and the propagation of disease, Leah's message, experience and wisdom is more relevant now than everI am grateful for Leah's advocacy and passion. May you find this conversation as impactful as I did.Peace + Plants,Listen, Watch & SubscribeApple Podcasts | YouTube | Spotify | Stitcher | Google PodcastsThanks to this week’s sponsorsDaily Harvest: Daily Harvest makes it easy to eat more fruits and vegetables with thoughtfully sourced, chef-crafted foods that are ready in five minutes or less. Go to dailyharvest.com and enter promo code RICHROLL to get twenty-five dollars off your first box.Squarespace: Make your next move with Squarespace and start building the website of your dreams. Start your free trial site today and get a free domain if you sign up for a year at squarespace.com/richroll. Listeners of the podcast can even save 10% off their first purchase when they use the offer code RICHROLL at checkout.Grove Collaborative: The online marketplace that makes it easy to go green by delivering all-natural & non-toxic home, beauty, and personal care products right to your doorstep. For a limited time, visit grove.co/richroll and get a free Sustainable Swap Set with your purchase with free shipping & a FREE 60-day VIP Trial.Note: One of the best ways to support the podcast is to support the sponsors. For a complete list of all RRP sponsors and their respective vanity url's and discount codes, visit my Resources page and click "Sponsors".SHOW NOTESPick up Leah's new book, Grilled: Turning Adversaries into Allies to Change the Chicken Industry*Connect With Leah: Facebook | Twitter | InstagramMercy For Animals: mercyforanimals.comNY Times: Abusing Chickens We Eat by Nicholas KristofNY Times: Animal Cruelty or The Price of Dinner? by Nicholas KristofThe Atlantic: The Human Cost of Chicken FarmingVICE: Why a North Carolina Chicken Farmer Exposed the Depressing Conditions on His Own FarmWired: Hoping to Change the Industry, a Factory Farmer Opens His Barn DoorsWashington Post: The not-so-humane way ‘humanely raised’ chickens are being raisedForbes: Poultry To Plant-Based: Animal Farmers Are Now Working With Vegans To Get Out Of The Meat BusinessForbes: Popeyes Signs On To ‘Better Chicken’Vox: Replacing beef with chicken isn’t as good for the planet as you thinkVox: Battle-tested lessons from the animal rights struggleCivil Eats: Americans Eat More Chicken Than EverCivil Eats: The Plant-Based Movement to Transition Farmers Away from Meat and Dairy ProductionVegNews: Mercy For Animals Convinces Popeyes To Agree To Better Chicken Welfare StandardsLiveKindly: This Farmer Started Growing Hemp Instead of Killing ChickensRelated Podcasts You Might EnjoyRRP #335: Nathan Runkle Has Mercy For AnimalsRRP #423: James Aspey: Eat Plants, Not AnimalsRRP #111: Lisa Lange On Why It's Cool To Be CompassionateRRP #138: Gene Baur On Living In Alignment With Your ValuesThanks to Jason Camiolo for production, audio engineering and show notes; Margo Lubin and Blake Curtis for video, editing and graphics; portraits by Ali Rogers; and theme music by Ana Leimma.*Disclosure: Books and products denoted with an asterisk are hyperlinked to an affiliate program. We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.For 1000s of delicious, customized plant-based recipes & so much more, check out our Plantpower Meal PlannerHOW CAN I SUPPORT THE PODCAST?Tell Your Friends & Share Online!Subscribe & Review:  iTunes | Spotify | Stitcher | Soundcloud | Google PodcastsDonate: Check out our Patreon accountSupport The Sponsors: One of the best ways to support the podcast is to support our sponsors. For a complete list of all RRP sponsors and their respective vanity url's and discount codes, visit my Resources page and click "Sponsors". See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.

2hr 6mins

6 Apr 2020

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S2, Ep11: Turning Adversaries into Allies with Leah Garcés

The ChickPeeps Vegan Podcast

This episode is brought to you by Vivo Life! Use our code 'chickpeeps10' to get 10% off your order at vivolife.com! This week we are also sponsored by Veestro! Use code PEEPS at checkout for 25% off your first order at tryveestro.com/chickpeeps! How do a lifelong animal rights activist and a chicken factory farmer become friends? How does working with the oppressors of animals help the vegan movement? Leah Garcés, president of Mercy For Animals and author of Grilled, has made it her life’s mission to advocate for animal rights by crossing enemy lines and working with the world’s largest food corporations to change the system. In this episode she speaks to Tylor and Evy about her dedication to protecting animals from a young age, how meeting a factory farmer radically altered her outlook and approach to activism and how she navigates relationships with the people killing the animals she’s trying to save. Also on this episode... Leah shares how the ducks in her backyard awakened her urge to protect animals. How Leah’s dream of being a vet evolved when she realised she wanted to tackle the very root of animal suffering. ‘Once I discovered that there was this world where you could advocate for farmed animals, and that could be a job, I never stopped advocating for animals, it was my professional job from day 1’. How having her first child inspired Leah to deeply consider her work and life’s purpose. Leah talks about the initial inner conflict of being a vegan working in a welfare space, and how she reconciled herself with fighting for animal welfare. ‘Conversations and empathy do not equal endorsement.’ We talk about the fact that many vegans see working with people in animal agriculture as a betrayal of one’s vegan values. Leah explains how her unique friendship with farmer, Craig Watts, radically shifted her approach to animal rights advocacy. How farmers become trapped as ‘indentured servants’ in the factory farming system ‘Hate the oppression, not the oppressor,’ Leah explains the Martin Luther King philosophy that inspires her activism. If farmers are not the enemy, then who is? How Leah built a rapport with and earned the trust of farmers in the first place. The role of protesting in animal welfare activism and when is the right time to stage a protest. MFA’s Transfarmation project Leah talks about being a vegan mom and how much of her work she chooses to share with her children.  Leah weighs in on whether or not a fully vegan future is plausible. Links: Buy Leah’s book, Grilled: Turning Adversaries into Allies to Change the Chicken Industry. Read more about MFA’s Transfarmation Project: Empowering Farmers for a Better Food System. Check out Leah’s work at Mercy For Animals. Follow MFA on Instagram, Twitter, Youtube, Pinterest and Facebook. Social Media Twitter: @ChickPeepsPod Instagram: @ChickPeepsPod Facebook: @ChickPeepsPodcast Momoko Hill: @oh_momoko Robbie Jarvis: @robbjarvis Tylor Starr: @tylorstarr Evanna Lynch: @msevylynch

1hr 12mins

15 Jan 2020

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