A Cumulative Case for the Reliability of the Gospels (Dr. Lydia McGrew)
Ryan Pauly Podcast
There are many approaches that haven been taken to show the reliability of the gospels. One approach that is less common comes from showing the reliability based on undesigned coincidences. Dr. Lydia McGrew joined me this week to discuss the popular objections against the gospels and then an evaluation of the evidence for reliability such as undesigned coincidences.
Lydia McGrew on Undesigned Coincidences, Internal Evidence, and the Historicity of the New Testament
Filter: Biblical Clarity in a Confusing World
Many people wonder if a document as old as the Bible can be considered historically reliable. Moreover, they wonder if it is even possible to test the reliability of a document that is so old. My guest today helps us to see that there are intellectually credible ways to test and rely on the historicity of the Gospels and the New Testament. Her name is Lydia McGrew and she introduces us to the argument from internal evidence and undesigned coincidences. Dr. Lydia McGrew is a widely published analytic philosopher and author. She received her Ph.D. in English from Vanderbilt University in 1995. She has published extensively in the theory of knowledge, specializing in formal epistemology and in its application to the evaluation of testimony and to the philosophy of religion. She defends the reliability of the Gospels and Acts in her books Hidden in Plain View: Undesigned Coincidences in the Gospels and Acts, The Mirror or the Mask: Liberating the Gospels From Literary Devices, and most recently The Eye of the Beholder: The Gospel of John as Historical Reportage. Check out the full show notes for highlights and resources from this episode: https://tinyurl.com/2jf454r6 Get Lydia McGrew's Books: Hidden in Plain View: Undesigned Coincidences in the Gospels and Acts, https://tinyurl.com/4vxfw6r8 The Mirror or the Mask: Liberating the Gospels from Literary Devices, https://tinyurl.com/vem96yum The Eye of the Beholder: The Gospel of John as Historical Reportage, https://tinyurl.com/29bex9j6 SUPPORT THIS PODCAST: PayPal: https://paypal.me/AaronShamp?locale.x=en_US Venmo: @AaronShamp Cash App: $AaronShamp –––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– Track: Perseverance — Land of Fire [Audio Library Release] Music provided by Audio Library Plus Watch: https://youtu.be/Ue48lJLVA30Free Download / Stream: https://alplus.io/perseverance–––––––––––––––––––––––––––––– --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app
Dr. Lydia McGrew is a widely published analytic philosopher and author. She received her PhD in English from Vanderbilt University in 1995. She has published extensively in the theory of knowledge, specializing in formal epistemology and in its application to the evaluation of testimony and to the philosophy of religion. In this conversation, we talk about your recent book, The Eye of the Beholder and the reliability of John's Gospel. Dr. McGrew's channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSwh... Testify video on unnecessary details: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzRws... Testify video on unexplained allusions: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5mF9... Purchase link for Hidden in Plain View: https://www.amazon.com/Hidden-Plain-V... Purchase link for The Mirror or the Mask: The Mirror or the Mask: Liberating the Gospels from Literary Devices: McGrew, Lydia: 9781947929074: Amazon.com: Books Purchase link for The Eye of the Beholder: The Eye of the Beholder: The Gospel of John as Historical Reportage: McGrew, Lydia: 9781947929159:Amazon.com: Books -------------------------------- GIVING -------------------------------- Please consider becoming a Patron! I am a full-time student, so your support helps make our content better and provides me Ramen money. Patreon (Thanks!): https://www.patreon.com/AdherentApolo... YouTube Membership: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCO8j...
Can We Trust the Gospel of John? - Dr. Lydia McGrew - Episode 44
It contains some of Jesus’ most beloved words and deeds, but the fourth gospel has long been dismissed by scholars as historically inaccurate. Dr. Lydia McGrew takes on this consensus with powerful arguments that John gives us the real Jesus.
Sunday School: Is the Gospel of John Historically Reliable? w/ Dr. Lydia McGrew
The Pat Flynn Show
Lydia McGrew returns to The Pat Flynn Show to discuss her latest book Eye of the Beholder: The Gospel of John as Historical Reportage, specifically to defend the reliability of John's Gospel and the implications thereof for the Christian faith. Lydia also shares her thoughts on the recent exchange between Dr. Mike Licona and Dr. Dale Allison. Mentioned Resources Be sure to grab a copy of Lydia's newest book Eye of the Beholder either on Amazon here or Barnes and Noble here. Lydia's Youtube Channel Lydia and Tim's The Argument From Miracles: A Cumulative Case for the Resurrection of Jesus of Nazareth The Pat Flynn Show If you enjoyed this episode, it would mean the world to me if you could subscribe to, and leave a review for, The Pat Flynn show on iTunes HERE or Stitcher HERE. Reading your reviews and hearing your feedback is what keeps me fired up to make The Pat Flynn Show happen. Thank you!
Dr Lydia McGrew on the reliability and Christology of the Gospels
Dr. Lydia McGrew is an analytic philosopher who focuses on the reliability of testimony particularly as that applies to the gospels. She has written a book titled "The Mirror and the Mask: Liberating the Gospels from Literary Devices". We talk about the difference between a literary device model supported by Dr. Michael Licona and the historical reportage model supported by Dr. McGrew. As a statistician I enjoyed getting to talk with Dr. McGrew about probability theory and how we can apply that to our understanding of the gospels. We discuss implications for these different understandings of the gospels for apologetics, for faith, and for understanding Christology. We also spend a good amount of time discussing the christology in the gospel of John. This was a very fun discussion and I hope you will enjoy! Dr. Lydia McGrew's books. The Mirror and the Mask: https://www.amazon.com/Mirror-Mask-Liberating-Gospels-Literary/dp/1947929070 Hidden in Plain View: https://www.amazon.com/Hidden-Plain-View-Undesigned-Coincidences/dp/1936341905/ref=pd_lpo_14_t_0/140-4227063-2261906?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=1936341905&pd_rd_r=08c57267-9efb-4c6f-ba03-6dd3a3539dc6&pd_rd_w=V5viJ&pd_rd_wg=Fg3MK&pf_rd_p=7b36d496-f366-4631-... Dr. Lydia McGrew's youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSwhBk0vUSg_6prKkR82IDQ Mirror and the Mask youtube playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLe1tMOs8ARn0S9CsFG47bKjcYxsnHujhg Dr Michael Licona's response youtube playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLe1tMOs8ARn0Xw5fVp1NhKTnu21-wZcge
Ep #44- Can We Trust The Gospels? (ft. Lydia McGrew)
The question of the historical reliability of the Gospels is still very much alive. Hundreds of articles and videos that present robust defense, having stood the test of time, fill search results. But what about the underlying principles at play? Why are still objections raised? How has scholarship fared in responding to these? Why are critics ready to believe Josephus over Luke when Luke is considered a “historian of the highest rank”? Does the theory championed by certain Christians that the Gospel of John was written by another John and not John the son of Zebedee warrant credit? Much is at play which is why we brought in one of the best in the field, Lydia McGrew, to engage with these and more!Links and Citation:Internalism and Epistemology: The Architecture of Reason (Routledge Studies in Contemporary Philosophy) (https://www.amazon.com/Internalism-Epistemology-Architecture-Contemporary-Philosophy-ebook/dp/B000SEID9I/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=internalism+epistemology+lydia+mcgrew&qid=1610349733&sr=8-1)The Mirror or the Mask: Liberating the Gospels from Literary Devices (https://www.amazon.com/Mirror-Mask-Liberating-Gospels-Literary-ebook/dp/B0896W473Q/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=mirror+or+the+mask&qid=1610349707&sr=8-1)Hidden in Plain View: Undesigned Coincidences in the Gospels and Acts (https://www.amazon.com/Hidden-Plain-View-Undesigned-Coincidences/dp/1936341905/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=hidden+in+plain+view&qid=1610349688&sr=8-2)Check out Lydia's YouTube channel (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSwhBk0vUSg_6prKkR82IDQ/videos)The Blackwell Companion to Natural Theology (https://www.amazon.com/Blackwell-Companion-Natural-Theology/dp/1444350854/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2XZTQ6M0RW56P&dchild=1&keywords=blackwell+companion+to+natural+theology&qid=1610349827&sprefix=blackwell+comp%2Caps%2C366&sr=8-1)The McGrewpies Facebook group (https://www.facebook.com/groups/1661262680807062/)Watch the video podcast on our YouTube channel (https://www.youtube.com/c/SAFTApologetics)Equipping the believer defend their faith anytime, anywhere. Our vision is to do so beyond all language barriers in India and beyond!SAFT Apologetics stands for Seeking Answers Finding Truth and was formed off inspiration from the late Nabeel Qureshi’s autobiography that captured his life journey where he followed truth where it led him. We too aim to be a beacon emulating his life’s commitment towards following truth wherever it leads us.Website: https://www.saftapologetics.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/saftapologetics/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/saftapologetics/Newsletter: http://www.sendfox.com/saftapologeticsPatreon: https://www.patreon.com/saftapologetics/Is there a question that you would like to share with us?Send us your questions, suggestions and queries at: email@example.com
The Controversy Over "Literary Devices" in The Gospels with Dr. Lydia McGrew
Are there what appear to our eyes to be significant, deliberate, factual changes about the life of Jesus in the Gospels? Did the gospel writers seem to fabricate significant details about Jesus? If so, was this an expected and appropriate practice when writing a Greco-Roman Biography? Do "literary devices" exist, which were employed by the gospel authors, which allowed an ancient biographer to add fictional information to historical stories as a kind of "special effects"? Dr. Lydia McGrew joins me to discuss several controversial and important issues related to the reliability of the Gospels. This can be a rather complicated issue but I hope that today's interview will be enlightening and bring some clarity. Even if you don't agree with my guest (I'm not entirely sure what all my own views are on this issue) I think it's valuable to hear what she has to say because she has gone to such great lengths to bring clarity to a pretty fuzzy area of scholarship where I am genuinely concerned that some well-meaning, wonderful Christian scholars are making some significant mistakes.Get Lydia McGrew's book "The Mirror or the Mask: Liberating the Gospels from Literary Devices" https://www.amazon.com/Mirror-Mask-Liberating-Gospels-Literary/dp/1947929070/Lydia's new YouTube Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSwhBk0vUSg_6prKkR82IDQDr. Mike Licona (a genuine Christian who I respect) has a series of videos responding to Dr. Lydia McGrew's book which you can watch on this playlist on his YT channel https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLpPGCP1zKznR06Jxb5RaQYrNIiH7xR7ZRLydia McGrew did a series of videos in response to Mike Licona's series and you can watch that playlist on her YT channel at this link https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLe1tMOs8ARn0S9CsFG47bKjcYxsnHujhg