Summary of Peers Inc. by Robin Chase | Free Audiobook
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Learn about the power of the collaborative economy and why it’s changing the world. You know Robin Chase as a transportation entrepreneur and CEO of Zipcar. But Peers Inc (2015) is your personal guide to the business strategies that built her empire. Providing a sneak peek into Chase’s extraordinary mind and philosophy, Peers Inc. will teach you how to unpack and implement the peers model in your own life and business. And, believe it or not, Chase’s solutions might also help you save the planet! Do you want more free book summaries like this? Download our app for free at https://www.QuickRead.com/App and get access to hundreds of free book and audiobook summaries. DISCLAIMER: This book summary is meant as a preview and not a replacement for the original book. If you like this summary please consider purchasing the original book to get the full experience as the original author intended it to be. If you are the original author of any book on QuickRead and would like us to remove it, please contact us at email@example.com
Robin Chase | Driving Transportation Into the Future
Sometimes being green means charging ahead even when everyone else is applying the brakes. Robin Chase is a serial transportation entrepreneur, but she had no idea what she was getting into with her first project — and that’s how she pushed the market forward.Robin is the co-founder and former CEO of Zipcar, the car sharing service that connects members to available cars nearby, which they can use for an hourly or daily fee. It’s a recognizable model today, but being first came with unseen obstacles.First, Robin hadn’t realized that the software that would link the internet to the car for the customer didn’t exist. “We had to build that and it was incredibly challenging,” she says. In the meantime, everything was done manually. In addition to being time-consuming, this led to a potentially disastrous mistake. While closing Zipcar’s Series A round, Robin suddenly realized her original revenue calculations were way off. According to her new calculations, Zipcar needed to raise the fee for daily rentals.Because she believes that honesty and empathy are integral to customer service, Robin personally dealt with angry customer phone calls to explain the situation.“If you've built yourself to be a responsive and thoughtful and consumer-centric company, then missteps or errors get put into a larger track record of how you address issues,” she says.The Zipcar sharing model is commonplace today, whether you’re renting an ebike or scooter, or using a rideshare app. But Robin thinks that some new companies in this space are unstable.“Investors that have way too much money and no knowledge are throwing gigantic sums of money at companies that are too young and have not yet figured out the business model or the operating model,” she says.That said, Robin is a fan of modes of transport that replace personally owned cars, which have long been prioritized even though not everyone can afford them. On that note, she also wants to see local governments set legislation that makes it easier for these companies to operate safely and responsibly. “I would love us to build what I'm calling a freedom network: a network for pedestrians and unlicensed vehicles that enable all of us to regain the freedom of mobility that we once had so that for the 50% of your trips that are less than three miles, you could go without a car without putting your life in danger.”Featured Entrepreneur👩🦳 Name: Robin Chase⚙️ What she does: Robin is an experienced transportation entrepreneur who founded and served as CEO of both Zipcar and Buzzcar. She now serves as executive chairman and founder of the vehicle networking company Veniam, and also wrote the book “Peers Inc: How People and Platforms are Inventing the Collaborative Economy and Reinventing Capitalism.”🚗 Company: Veniam / NUMO💎 Words of wisdom: “I used to talk about luck but then a fellow CEO came up to me and said, ‘It's not luck. Luck is where preparation meets opportunity.’ And that is completely true. It was because of the groundwork we had laid that when a good thing happened, we could run on it, or when a bad thing happened, we could catch it quickly.”🔍 Where to find her: Twitter | LinkedIn | WebsiteDefining Insights💡 Car sharing 2.0: The idea for Zipcar’s easy-to-rent fleet of cars already existed, but Robin and co-founder Antje Danielson updated it with tech and internet connectivity.💡 21st century: The tech behind Zipcar — connecting the internet to the car — was brand new in 2000. For the first few months, Robin entered everything manually while her team built the system from scratch.💡 Blissful ignorance: Robin says that being brand new to the car sharing industry was a benefit. She didn’t know enough to understand what a huge undertaking the idea for Zipcar was.💡 Long game: Robin took on high expenses on the gamble that they would decrease later. For example, insuring a fleet of cars for non-employees was very expensive but slowly went down.💡 Personal touch: When a mistake in her calculations meant raising fees by 25%, Robin dealt with backlash by personally calling customers and explaining the situation. 💡 Honesty policy: Being honest and straightforward with customers earned Zipcar a reputation as a trustworthy company and made customers more understanding.💡 Faulty models: Vehicle-sharing companies are more popular than ever (e.g., scooters, bikes and carpools) but Robin says that many are operating without a clear business model.💡 Rewrite the rules of the road: Local governments need to introduce policies that deprioritize cars, since not everyone can afford one, and help make these alternatives viable.Top quotes from the episode:“When we launched Zipcar in June 2000, only 25% of people had a cell phone — and they were definitely not smartphones back then. Only 50% of people had access to the internet, and it was primarily through their workspaces. So we were building on the front end of a huge trend and relying on those technologies to come. It was a different world.”“Some of my investors wanted me to hire a CEO from the car sharing industry … but I really wanted to get away from the prejudices around car sharing. To this day, they're still relying on their old rental model. They don't want to enable a transaction where you don't have to talk to someone and you just get things yourself.”“I found that the most irate people would get referred to me, and I could convert every single one of them. With authenticity and honesty, I would say, ‘Yeah, I recognize that totally sucked. That had to be incredibly irritating. Here's what we're going to do to correct that.’ And then we would correct it.”“I feel that we've seen this huge boom and bust of lots of ideas and business models that weren't ready yet — that expanded gigantically and quickly before they even understood what was going on.”“We need to be moving from a car-centric transportation model to a multimodal model, meaning that when I walk out my front door in a city, I have choices to make. Am I going to walk? Am I going to bike? Am I going to take the subway? Cities are putting their fingers on the scale as to which of those choices I take.”
“I like to put all cars in one category: are you a vehicle that moves in the city? If you are a vehicle that moves in the city, everyone is paying the same thing, for parking, for moving during congestion periods.” In the sixth episode of A Radical Redesign for Amsterdam, Geert Kloppenburg and Carin ten Hage speak with entrepreneur Robin Chase (ZipCar, Veniam) about how the shared mobility principles can help to regulate platforms and the role that excess capacity can play for a municipality.Shared mobility principles: https://www.sharedmobilityprinciples.org/For a tool on how to address new silo-agnostic vehicle regulation: https://bit.ly/3fcVzwl A Radical Redesign for Amsterdam is produced on behalf of the municipality of Amsterdam.
Zipcar Founder Robin Chase on Lessons Learned Inventing Ridesharing Almost a Decade Before Uber and What It Means for Future of Urban Transportation
Robin Chase is the founder and former CEO of Zipcar, the largest carsharing company in the world; Buzzcar, a carsharing marketplace in France; and GoLoco, an online ridesharing community as well as co-founder of Veniam, a company that moves TBs of data between vehicles and cloud. Her recent book is Peers Inc: How People and Platforms... The post Zipcar Founder Robin Chase on Lessons Learned Inventing Ridesharing Almost a Decade Before Uber and What It Means for Future of Urban Transportation appeared first on The Syndicate.
Robin Chase - Founder and former CEO of Zipcar - On the State of New Mobility
In this episode, we talk with transportation entrepreneur Robin Chase, the co-founder and former CEO of Zipcar. We have a wide-ranging discussion on the state of transportation in cities today, the impact of new mobility services and the policies cities should adopt to encourage a multi-modal future. You can learn more about Robin’s work here: www.robinchase.orgFor more on the Shared Mobility Principles for Livable Cities, please visit: https://www.sharedmobilityprinciples.org/ --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/smarter-cars/support
145. Zipcar Founder Robin Chase on Lessons Learned Inventing Ridesharing Almost a Decade Before Uber and What It Means for Future of Urban Transportation
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WRI Podcast #35: Transportation is the Heart of Cities with Robin Chase and Harriet Tregoning
World Resources Institute Podcasts Plus
Mobility is a gateway to opportunity, and transportation can make cities more wonderful, livable and equitable. WRI Vice President Lawrence MacDonald is joined by Robin Chase and Harriet Tregoning to talk about the New Urban Mobility alliance (NUMO) and how they are building better cities for all. Chase is the Executive Chair and Tregoning is the Director of NUMO.
Robin Chase on Transportation, the Platform Economy, and Peers Inc.
The Fletcher Forum Podcast
In this edition of the Fletcher Forum podcast, Matt Weinmann chats with Robin Chase, co-founder and former CEO of Zipcar, about her new book Peers Inc which describes how our modern, collaborative economy can tackle some of the world’s biggest challenges and change the very nature of capitalism. In this discussion, we learn how excess capacity can transform business and how Peers Inc can spur innovation to new heights. For a quick video on the implications of self driving cars, you can check out Robin's video here.
#45 – How Zipcar co-founder Robin Chase is creating a world she wants to live in
The Role Models Podcast
Robin Chase is the co-founder of Zipcar and the author of Peers Inc.Robin is a serial entrepreneur within the mobility and transportation sectors with a special focus on sustainability. Her mantra is to “everyday, create the world you want to live in”, meaning she’s helping to create cities that are livable, environmentally sound, and full of joy for all who pass through them.Working closely at the intersectionality of transportation and climate change, Robin is a passionate advocate of our environmental impact. Since 2000, Zipcar has lowered CO2 emissions by 1.6 billion lbs per year and taken away the need for more than 415,000 privately owned cars. Her new initiative, The New Urban Mobility Alliance (NUMO) continues to further the aim of creating cities where the new normal is both sustainable and livable.In this far-reaching conversation Robin had a lot to say on how she manages her personal commitment to creating more sustainable futures whilst recognising the immensity of the task at hand and our chat with Robin is full of advice on:Ways to be impactful within a very complex global problem Why diversity and thinking of your “single and best use” are the most powerful toolsAdapting and continuing to learn over timeWhy we’re all role models to each other and so need to hold ourselves accountableIt’s a great episode for anyone interested in effecting a positive global change and if you’re interested in platform companies such as Zipcar, or how to go about building them, check out Robin’s new book, Peers Inc.If you enjoy our conversation with Robin you can:Follow Robin on Twitter: https://twitter.com/rmchaseLearn more about Robin on her website: http://www.robinchase.org/Check out her new book, Peers Inc: http://www.robinchase.org/#peers-incRead more about Zipcar: https://www.zipcar.com/Read about the New Urban Mobility Alliance (NUMO): https://www.numo.global/And check out the Shared Mobility Principles for living: https://www.sharedmobilityprinciples.org/If you want to listen to more women who are following their passions to create better futures then check out episode #40 of the podcast where we spoke to seed.com founder Ara Kratz about how she’s redesigning microbiome science: https://www.rolemodels.co/podcast/40-seed-com-founder-ara-kratz-on-finding-your-path-without-following-the-recipe/And you should also check out our Medium site where we post articles featuring all the best insights from our podcast guests. To find us head to: https://medium.com/@rolemodelsThanks to Samsung NEXT for supporting this episode. Find out more about their mission to support entrepreneurs: http://samsungnext.com/berlinA big thanks also to our Patreon patrons who support this podcast: Megan Quinn, General Partner at Spark Capital who supports the organization: http://www.code2040.org/Anna Caroline, a leadership coach based out of Berlin that you can find on truthcircles.com Emma HarrisAnd please follow Role Models!On Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/_rolemodels/ On Twitter: https://twitter.com/rolemodels
The Emerging Economy feat. Zipcar Cofounder Robin Chase (Rebroadcast)
The Basic Income Podcast
We are watching the economy change before our eyes, and Zipcar Cofounder Robin Chase has been at the forefront of that change. She gives her observations on the platform economy, automation, self-driving cars, and how a basic income could be what smoothes the transition as we move to a different type of relationship between people and their work. This is a rebroadcast of a previous episode, and the final rebroadcast in this series. New episodes coming next week. —— Episode Transcript Owen: Hello, and welcome to the Basic Income Podcast. I’m Owen Poindexter. Jim: And I’m Jim Pugh. When people think about basic income, they often tie it to some future scenario where automation has drastically affected the way that the people work. But just thinking about how technology affects work is not something limited to the future — it’s actually something that exists today. Owen: I feel like automation and just the way that technology impacts employment and how people relate economically is something that comes on much more slowly than people tend to appreciate. And the self-driving cars may be a perfect example. We think of them as this kind of futuristic thing that’s going to be a whole new product that looks pretty unlike what we have today. However, we’ve got automatic transmission, cruise control, a lot of cars have lane-keeping right now where it automatically stays in your lane, self-parking. The same kind of thing happens with the economy where recently more and more we have shared resources, the collaborative economy, the sharing economy. These are slowly chipping away at the legacy structures that have existed for decades. Jim: There’s more and more companies out there that are adopting new approaches to the way that they employ people and the way that, really the conception of what a worker is. The people who are working in these companies really have a first-hand experience as to seeing what’s happening here and what impact it’s having on people’s lives and the economy at large. Owen: This week, we are very lucky to have someone who’s at the forefront of the new economy. Robin Chase is co-founder and former CEO of Zipcar and author of Peers Inc. Welcome, Robin. Robin: It’s a pleasure to be here. Jim: To start with, Robin, can you tell us a bit about what first got you interested in universal basic income? Robin: When I was writing this book Peers Inc, I was thinking a lot about, I would say, the platform economy. I was understanding from a trend basis and from economic basis that everything that can become a platform will become a platform. That the outsourcing of workers — and I say that in a kind of negative way — is incredibly economically compelling. That companies that think of themselves as platforms grow faster, they learn faster, they are hyper-adaptive and hyper-localized. They’re very hard to beat. So if your company can take that shape, you’re going to take that shape. We’re seeing it today. I was looking at something that was the top 50 innovative companies in the world. I would say 98% of them are what I would consider to be Peers Inc companies. Companies that are based on a platform with this satellite of assets that are outside of them. Once you understand that trend and internalize that trend, it says, “Whoa, oh my god.” We have completely structured our economy on the idea that people work full-time and get benefits full-time. The fact is, I don’t know if that was ever true, maybe it was true in 1940, but it is not the economy that we’re seeing today. Our social safety nets and workplace rules have been tied around this aging idea, outdated idea of what work looks like and that is not the future. I’ve realized we really need to have a universal basic income. I would say the other place that has taken me down this path is I do a lot of work on the future of self-driving cars. Unlike previous transitions, I expect this one to happen quite quickly because it’s economically compelling to make the transition from both the supply side, if you’re a supplier of transit services, and from the demand side, if you’re a consumer of transit services. It’s very compelling, economically compelling to make the switch. Which means we’re going to put a lot of drivers and their ecosystem out of work not in 60 years but in 5 to 10 years. Another reason why I am definitely supportive of doing pilots at a minimum around universal basic income because I see it’s something that we definitely are going to need to have. We need to have it today, and we’re going to need more of it, we are going to need it more profoundly in our future. Owen: The changing economy is something we talk a lot about here. How would you describe what it’s like to be a worker in the platform economy? Robin: If I think about, let’s just talk about the upsides first. I am 58, and when I got a job, my first job, my first job was boring as hell, and I hated it. My mom would say, “You can’t quit that job. You can’t quit that job for at least a year and a half because it’s giving you benefits. If you quit any earlier, you’re going to look like a shifty worker.” It took me years and many different jobs to figure out what it was that I was good at, what I loved to do. It was a kind of very slow iterative process sequential learning of what it was I was good at. One of the beauties of working on these platform economies is that I can do many things at the same time. There’s this nice sentence I got from someone else that said, “My father had one job in his lifetime, I’ll do six jobs in my lifetime, and my children will do six jobs at the same time.” Those six jobs at same time — and so maybe it’s going to four, who knows? But when I do that, I can have a passion job. I can have a job where I’m learning. I can have a job that’s my money job. I can have these different types of parts of my life where I’m exploring different things that I might like to do or that I’m interested in while I’m making some income. One of things that people really love about it is being in control of your time. Being flexible, having the flexibility. You are your own boss. Coming back to the contrast with the idea of full-time jobs as being the end-all: in a full-time job economy, you’re in a binary position. You’re either employed or unemployed. You either have income or you have no income. That choice about being employed or unemployed is out of your hands. It’s some boss that’s choosing to hire you or not hire you. In this platform, Peers Inc economy, I am able to choose my own, I can make money with my own initiative. I can work the number of hours, I can earn the amount of money I need. All that said, those are all the positives. So, positives: flexibility, figure out what you’re good at, having economic agency. Those are really positive things. On the flip side, it’s very precarious. It’s precarious while you figure out what you are good at. It’s precarious in that some of these things are– some of this work is seasonal. It’s precarious around health benefits and workplace rules. All of which now fall into the burden of the individual. If we were precarious before, when we work in this Peers Inc economy, this platform economy, we are more precarious than before. There’s both resilience and precarity built into this doing four jobs at the same time. That’s kind of how I see the upside and downsides. I just want to say one more thing about this: when we talk about the collaborative economy, of which we are finding and discussing many negative aspects, I want to say the fact that there are negative aspects doesn’t mean it’s not a great thing because I just explained lots of great things. If I go back to the foundation of industrialization, people worked seven days a week and we had child labor. We fixed those things. The fact that this new way of work has downsides, it does have downsides, and we have to correct and work on those downsides. Right now, we are seeing people increasingly having to work not in full-time jobs work at many things and we don’t have the– we haven’t corrected for the downsides that come with that way of work. Jim: On that note, how do you see basic income connecting here? How does it serve to deal with some of the issues that you just described? Robin: There’s that common– there’s that statistic that, I think it was Gallup that did, that was saying 40% of people couldn’t cover a $400 bill. I look at that and when you do sociological reading, you see that these outlier events are the things that take people into bankruptcy and take them into terrible jobs. I see universal basic income as being the minimum platform on which we can now arrange our life. It’s giving us a basic income security, and what is that number? I think about, one thing about universal basic income, I don’t know if it’s going to be $1,000 a month or if it’s going to be $400 a month. I don’t know. I know that at both of those points, it’s incredibly valuable to people. It takes away the precarity. Then I was interested at Mark Zuckerberg’s Harvard commencement speech and that he also pointed out this other upside which is rich, well-educated, privileged people have the opportunity to follow their passions and take risks. Poorly educated people who don’t have rich parents, spouses, cousins, and relatives to support them can’t take any risks pursuing any sort of interesting things. Basic income will enable them to do that. It seems, it’s not– it’s an equity piece, but I think it’s also an uncovering of innovation, improved quality of life, just a better– we’re getting more out of people. We’re getting more of the best out of people, rather than tying people to a go safe, don’t take risks type of work. Owen: You mentioned self-driving cars earlier. A very common response to the automation issue is that, “Well, we’ve had these concerns in the past, and new technology always brings about new opportunities.” How would you respond to that argument? Robin: That argument is extremely frustrating to me. That I look at it, and I say, and I think, you venture capitalist, you businessman sitting in your chair can say that. But the person who is in Bloomington, Indiana, who has a high school education, who’s 50 years old, who’s been driving a taxi for the last 30 years — that opening up of the new ideas of jobs, that is not going to help him. That is specific people with specific education and specific geographies. The idea that this is going to open up new jobs is, it’s a kind of rainbow fantasy dream. Sure, in the fullness of time over the entire economy, it could have new interesting things that happen, but starting Day One and Year One and Year Two for specific people and specific economies, we know profoundly that that is not the case. That we have people in cities that have lost their steel industry that are still terrifying. We have Detroit. If it were so straightforward, wouldn’t that have– we wouldn’t be seeing 30 years on the issues you have, the unemployment you have in Detroit. I think that’s a specious argument. Jim: There’s been a lot of discussion and germination of ideas around basic income in the last two years in the US. What do you see as the most exciting recent developments there? Robin: I have to tell you a funny story to tee up this. When I was writing Peers Inc and I got to this chapter about the fact and I saw, whoa, everything that can become a platform is going to become a platform. I’m seeing this huge push of work into these insecure part-time types of things. I thought, “You know what? What we really need is– people need an income that just comes in every month as a basic standard.” It was as if in my mind, I had come up with a really crazy idea that I invented. Kind of like my 11-year-old coming home and saying, “Mom, what if dogs pulled sleds? There could be something called dog sledding.” I thought, that’s been invented. I want to say, with humility, with incredible amusement at myself, two-and-a-half years ago, I had never heard of universal basic income. When I was writing this book, I thought, “Oh my God, we need a universal basic income.” I think I called it, We Need a Basic Income. Then when I was– after I wrote this chapter, I sent it out to an economist and a person doing tech futures, a kind of tech futurist. I said, “I feel like I’ve really gone too far in this recommendation.” Their emails back to me were laughing. “Robin, what are you talking about? This has definitely got to be part of the future. This is something that has been tested and piloted in other places.” I was very amused. If I think about the last two years, what really struck me is that this has become an increasingly mainstream conversation. What I thought two years ago, as a person who worked in tech, who works in innovation, who is very well-educated, I had never thought about it. I had never thought about it, never heard of it, never considered it, and now we see articles about it all the time. Not just on Medium, we see them in regular everyday newspapers, on televisions, and around the world. That’s been what’s been amazing to me over the last few years, is to see the increasing beat of discussion. Whenever I’m going toe-to-toe with someone on the idea of universal basic income, and they want to say, “We can’t afford it,” or “People are going to stay home, play video games, and smoke weed.” My answer to that is, “Maybe.” We have to do some pilots, because until we do some pilots, we’re just going to continue have this circular discussion about its impossibility and its impacts. That’s what’s been quite interesting to me is to see a larger– is start to see the rise of more and more pilots, so that we’re going to get more and more data, so we can put an end to this circular conversation that I think has been– is where we used to be, and we can start getting to a place of real data. Owen: You’re both the proponent and a builder of the collaborative economy. A great example of that is the company you co-founded, Zipcar, in which people, in which there are cars that anyone can access and take for the day or for the hour. Do you see the collaborative economy as a piece of the same puzzle along with the basic income, or are they more parallel to you? Robin: I see the collaborative economy as a restructuring of our current economy. That restructuring requires new rules, and that’s where UBI comes in. In the old industrial capitalism, you would build– the way you extracted the most value out of something was to put a very strong barrier around the company. You knew– and we would do that with patents and copyrights and certifications and trademarks. You knew very, very clearly who worked for the company and who didn’t work for the company. Who owned what assets and who the assets belong to. It was very clear, the ownership model. In this future economy, this currently blossoming and growing economy, this collaborative economy, it is very ill-defined and very fuzzy. Who owns these assets? Are you an employee, or are you not an employee? Who are you partnering with? What assets are you using? Is this a personal asset, a commercial asset? Is this — I’m looking outside my window — is this a residential district, or is it a commercial district? Who owns my data, who has access to my data? Whose access to my smartphones? All of this today is becoming very intertwined and multi-purposed. All of those old rules that went with that old economy no longer suit this new way of working and collaborating and sharing assets and ideas and data. UBI is a very nice underpinning to this new economy, to allow this fluidity of work, fluidity of ideas, fluidity of innovation to happen with all of– I just feel like, I feel a swirl, if you go deep into the idea of shared assets and data and space and time. If you want to get the most out of that multi-purposing and most of that potential, you need to have a nice, a firm economic standing that gives you the opportunity to take advantage of how you extract this new value, how you find new potential, how you share these assets in a fluid way. You need to have a kind of bedrock economic standing underneath that. Owen: That’s fantastic. My last question is, I’m just wondering if there’s anything you’d like to add on any of these topics. Robin: We haven’t talked about it a lot yet, but when I think about the automation of self-driving cars, if I had my dream future, which I’m working hard to help achieve in cities, all cars would be shared. Which would mean we’d only need 10% of them, which means 90% of the cars, let’s go to say 50% of cars we’re building today, we don’t need them to be built. We don’t need the resources to be dug up out of the ground, transported long distances, assembled in factories, transported to new places, housed and warehoused on streets. It completely– it takes this big piece of the economy out, in a way, and I see there’s a huge upside to that. That we can take back our cities and our curbs and our houses and parking lots, if we get this gigantic win from sharing cars and not having to store them. All of that, I want that transition to happen as quickly as possible because it has so many upsides. In order for that transition to happen as quickly as possible, we need to provide this support structure. I look at that, and I think that’s just one sector of the economy. I feel like our entire economy, from my perspective, a sustainability and equity perspective, is quite broken. I would like us to be able to evolve much more quickly without having the incredible anxiety over what’s happening to individuals within that economy. It’s another argument for me to have free universal basic income. If we don’t do that, two things unfold. One is, when we think about the automation of agriculture, we did that in a horrible way and a lot of people, millions and millions and millions of people worldwide, suffered through that 20-, 30-, 40-year transition. We should be doing much better today. I’d like us to do a much better job of that transition, and I’d like it to be much faster because of the incredible upside and the potential to unleash people best selves instead of their worst, “how can I get paid doing whatever it is required” self. I want us to do many more pilots on universal basic income. Ultimately, I want us to be a adopting it and paying for because I think it will unlock a dramatically better quality of life and dramatically more innovation than we see today. Owen: That was Robin Chase, co-founder and former CEO of Zipcar and author of Peers Inc. Thank you so much for joining us. Robin: You’re welcome. It’s my pleasure. Jim: You’ve been listening to the Basic Income Podcast. Thank you to our producer, Erick Davidson. If you like what you hear, please make sure to rate and review us on iTunes, Stitcher, or the podcast platform of your choice. Also make sure to share with your friends. We’re always looking for new listeners who’d like to hear more about universal basic income. Talk to you next week.