035 - Grandstanding von Justin Tosi und Brandon Warmke
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Nachdem wir in der letzten Episode auf eine akute Gefahr für die Demokratie geschaut haben, blicken wir diesmal auf die aktuellen Diskursdynamiken:Justin Tosi und Brandon Warmke analysieren in ihrem Buch Grandstanding das Phänomen der öffentlichen Selbstdarstellung, die auf moralischen Inhalten basiert. Insbesondere auf Social Media, aber nicht nur. Die Autoren zeigen auf, was Menschen dazu bewegt und warum sie es als schädlich einschätzen.Mehr LiteraturDiAngelo, R. (2020). Wir müssen über Rassismus sprechen: Was es bedeutet, in unserer Gesellschaft weiß zu sein (U. Bischoff, Übers.; 1. Auflage). Hoffmann und Campe. Fourest, C. (2020). Generation Beleidigt: Von der Sprachpolizei zur Gedankenpolizei: über den wachsenden Einfluss linker Identitärer (A. Carstiuc, M. Feldon, & C. Hesse, Übers.; Deutsche Erstveröffentlichung, 1. Auflage). Edition TIAMAT. → Ich fand das Buch zwar interessant (weil die Kritik anstatt von rechts von einer französischen homosexuellen Feministin kommt), aber auch teilweise recht polemisch.Frankfurt, H. G. (2005). On bullshit. Princeton University Press.Gess, N. (2021). Halbwahrheiten: Zur Manipulation von Wirklichkeit. Matthes & Seitz.Graeber, D. & Wengrow D (2022). Anfänge: Eine neue Geschichte der Menschheit. Klett-Cotta.Lee, Fonda (2021). Jade Legacy. Orbit.Murata, S. (2022). Das Seidenraupenzimmer: Roman (U. Gräfe, Übers.; 1. Auflage). Aufbau Taschenbuch.Sandel, M. J. (2020). Vom Ende des Gemeinwohls: Wie die Leistungsgesellschaft unsere Demokratien zerreißt (H. Reuter, Übers.; Deutsche Erstausgabe). S. Fischer.Seinfeld: Staffel 3, Episode 7 („The Cafe“) und Staffel 7 Folge 20 („The Calzone“)Strässle, T. (2019). Fake und Fiktion: Über die Erfindung von Wahrheit. Carl Hanser Verlag. ZZD 034: Amerikas Gotteskrieger von Annika BrockschmidtZZD 032: Schulden von David GraeberZZD 028: Die Realität der Massenmedien von Niklas LuhmannZZD 004: Ökologische Kommunikation von Niklas LuhmannShownotesHomepage: Justin TosiHomepage: Brandon WarmkeWikipedia: Virtue SignallingWikipedia: Harvey WeinsteinArtikel: Obama’s coffee cup salute draws criticism (cnn.com)Wikipedia; InflationWikipedia: ClicktivismWikipedia: Kognitive DissonanzWikipedia: PopulismusArtikel: Ist die Kompetenzorientierung der richtige Weg in der Lehre? (nilsmueller.info)Wikipedia: Kompetenzorientierte PädagogikDer Beitrag 035 – Grandstanding von Justin Tosi und Brandon Warmke erschien zuerst auf Zwischen zwei Deckeln.
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Brandon Warmke joins Christiane on the show today for a discussion of the importance of moral discourse. In recent years, you may have noticed a rise in the use of hyperbole and grand statement-making on social media, in the news or in political speeches. With his co-author Justin Tosi, Brandon Warmke explore this turn towards big, unapologetic statements in their book Moral Grandstanding: The Use and Abuse of Moral Talk. Send questions or comments to email@example.com. For the episode’s transcript, click here. Don’t forget to check out the Prindle Institute’s newest podcast, Getting Ethics to Work! Shownotes Brandon WarmkeJustin Tosi and Brandon Warmke, Moral Grandstanding: The Use and Abuse of Moral Talk“44 Texas Students Have Coronavirus after Spring Break Trip” (Please note that at the time of the interview, the title of this story was “28 Texas Students Have…” The title and number of students who tested positive have since changed as the story developed.)John Stuart Mill, “On Liberty“C. Thi Nguyen and Bekka Williams, “Moral Outrage Porn“Friedrich Nietzsche and “will to power“ Thanks to Evelyn Brosius for designing our logo. Our featured image was found here. “The Zeppelin” by Blue Dot Sessions, from sessions.blue (CC BY-NC 4.0)“Silk and Silver” by Blue Dot Sessions, from sessions.blue (CC BY-NC 4.0) To contact us, email firstname.lastname@example.org. Microphone in focus against blurred audienceThe post Moral Grandstanding with Brandon Warmke appeared first on Examining Ethics.
Interview on Grandstanding with Justin Tosi and Brandon Warmke
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Get the BookGrandstanding: The Use and Abuse of Moral Talk by Justin Tosi and Brandon Warmke https://geni.us/1yLXXcCAbout the BookPeople used to hold out great hope for a public square in which individuals put petty disputes aside and engage in rational discussion about important issues. Unfortunately, public discourse today—especially on the internet—is full of adults behaving like poorly socialized children, acting out to show off for people they want to impress. In short, they engage in moral grandstanding, or the use of moral talk for self-promotion. Drawing from work in psychology, economics, and political science, this book develops an explanation of why people grandstand when they talk about morality and politics. Using the tools of moral philosophy, it argues that grandstanding is not just annoying, but morally bad. And finally, it explains what we can do to encourage people to support a public square worth participating in, by avoiding grandstanding.Among the topics covered:Why people grandstand and self-promoteEffects of polarizing discourse on social mediaWhy moderates check out of discussionsReasons for optimismFollow the AuthorsJustin Tosi on Twitter (@JustinTosi)Brandon Warmke on Twitter (@BrandonWarmke)Stay Connectedibnabeeomar.com Newsletter - What Muslim Leaders Read Sign up for the email list at and get your copy of the 40 hadith on social media ebookSocial Media: Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, YouTubeTo support this podcast and related projects, please consider contributing at Patreon. Subscribe to the PodcastApple Podcasts: http://bit.ly/ibnabeeomar_appleGoogle play: http://bit.ly/ibnabeeomar_googleSpotify: http://bit.ly/ibnabeeomar_spotify
Jordan and Brandon talk with Brandon Warmke about his book grandstanding. What is moral grandstanding? Why is it important to think and talk about grandstanding right now? When did moral grandstanding become so popular? Does social media have a large influence on it? What the costs of grandstanding? What makes it so tempting? And much more.Find more info about the London Lyceum or contact us at our website.Resources:1) Grandstanding: The Use and Abuse of Moral Talk, Brandon Warmke and Justin Tosi2) Moral Grandstanding and Virtue Signaling: The Same Thing?, Brandon Warmke and Justin Tosi3) Moral grandstanding and political polarization: A multi-study consideration, Brandon Warmke, Justin Tosi, Joshua Grubbs, and A. Shanti JamesSupport the show
In this episode, I speak with Brandon Warmke about his new book, Grandstanding, which he co-authored with Justin Tosi. Brandon is a professor of philosophy at Bowling Green State University. I highly recommend the book, and I hope this talk does it justice. I very much enjoyed speaking with Brandon, and I hope you enjoy our conversation as well. Here's any links you'll need to dive deeper: https://www.amazon.com/Grandstanding-Use-Abuse-Moral-Talk/dp/0190900156?SubscriptionId=AKIAIA3UEVTLIG7AIKFA&tag=&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=0190900156 http://brandonwarmke.com/ https://www.bgsu.edu/arts-and-sciences/philosophy/faculty-and-staff/brandon-warmke.html https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/papa.12075 If you learned something from this episode, please consider supporting me here: https://www.patreon.com/jordanmyers Every dollar that comes in will go towards bettering the show or towards funding my Philosophy PhD. Twitter: @Jordan_C_Myers You can also get in contact by emailing me at email@example.com Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCD1RiH1j-M6C59z1upPXkWw?disable_polymer=true Plato's Cave Website: https://platoscave.fireside.fm/ Plato's Cave is produced by a non-profit organization centered around public education on high-minded topics, Muckraker Media, which I co-founded. You can find out more by visiting muckrakermedia.org Special Guest: Brandon Warmke.Support Plato's Cave
The Use and Abuse of Moral Talk (with Justin Tosi and Brandon Warmke)
We want to be seen as taking the moral high ground not just to make a point, or move a debate forward, but to look a certain way — incensed, or compassionate, or committed to a cause. Another word for this type of discourse is grandstanding. Justin Tosi and Brandon Warmke join the show to talk about how grandstanding affects our day to day political discourse.As politics gets more and more polarized, people on both sides of the spectrum move further and further apart when they let grandstanding get in the way of engaging one another. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.
What Is Moral Grandstanding with Justin Tosi & Brandon Warmke.
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Justin Tosi and Brandon Warmke talk about their new book Grandstanding: The Use and Abuse of Moral Talk on this episode. They explain how moral grandstanding differs from other vices like hypocrisy, and how it’s not the same as virtue signaling. They talk about psychological research that they have done with Joshua Green to create the grandstanding scale, which measures the motives for grandstanding, namely, prestige and dominance. Their findings suggest that the most partisan people are the most likely to engage in moral grandstanding. You can follow Justin Tosi and Brandon Warmke on Twitter @JustinTosi and @BrandonWarmke. If you have any comments you can contact Chris Martin at firstname.lastname@example.org or on twitter @Chrismartin76. Here is the transcript of the episode. Related Links The psychology of moral grandstanding, The Big Think on YouTube Wrath, a talk by Justin Tosi on grandstanding, from the Seven Deadly Sins series, Canadian Centre for Ethics in Public Affairs Rating the Show If you enjoyed this show, please rate it on iTunes: Go to the show’s iTunes page and click “View in iTunes” Click “Ratings and Reviews” which is to the right of “Details” Next to “Click to Rate” select the stars. Other Episodes of Half Hour of Heterodoxy >>
Grandstanding: the Use and Abuse of Moral Talk | Brandon Warmke & Justin Tosi
In Episode 144 of Hidden Forces, Demetri Kofinas speaks with philosophers Brandon Warmke and Justin Tosi about the phenomenon of grandstanding, which they define as “the use and abuse of moral talk for the purposes of self-promotion.” Although moral grandstanding is a spectacle most commonly associated with those on the political left, the practice of grandstanding is an entirely bipartisan phenomenon. Its increased prevalence in public discourse has dangerous implications for politics and society. For grandstanders, it isn’t the pursuit of virtue that motivates them. They aren’t concerned with doing good; they’re concerned with looking good; they want others to think that they are morally superior, and they’re willing to go to great lengths in order to do it, including using moral talk as a tactic for punishment and intimidation. The irony is that grandstanders accomplish all of this by free-riding on the moral behavior and good intentions of others. They turn civil discourse into a moral arms race, weaponizing language, and silencing their enemies with threats of doxing and humiliation. Our society is currently going through a seismic transition. Norms are being radically upended and Americans are experiencing levels of political polarization arguably unseen since at least the 1970s. If we want to make it through this period in one piece, as one nation, undivided we need to reclaim the moral high ground in our discourse. Otherwise, I’m afraid we’re in danger of losing control of our country to the darker forces of our nature, and this would not bode well for the future of our republic. If you enjoyed listening to today’s episode of Hidden Forces you can help support the show by doing the following: Become a premium subscriber, which gives you access to our episode overtimes, as well as transcripts and rundowns to each week’s episode. All subscribers gain access to our overtime feed, which can be easily added to your favorite podcast application. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Stitcher | SoundCloud | YouTube | CastBox | RSS Feed Write us a review on Apple Podcasts Subscribe to our mailing list through the Hidden Forces Website Producer & Host: Demetri Kofinas Editor & Engineer: Stylianos Nicolaou Subscribe & Support the Podcast at http://patreon.com/hiddenforces Join the conversation on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter at @hiddenforcespod Episode Recorded on 06/30/2020
Is moral grandstanding harmful? Is it something a virtuous person would do? I'm joined by Justin Tosi and Brandon Warmke to discuss their book on the issue.Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/PoliticalPhilosophyPodcastPre-Order Grandstanding: https://t.co/jJjqd1xs7P?amp=1